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On November 17 2011 07:25 skyR wrote:You want an Intel core i5 or better for streaming and multi-threaded tasks. You're welcome to go for the less expensive core i3 or Phenom II X4 but don't say I didn't warn you. Games already take up two cores, some such as Battlefield 3 take up more ( http://www.techspot.com/review/458-battlefield-3-performance/page7.html ) You tell me how you're going to get a smooth gaming experience with a decent quality stream if playing the game itself already puts a Phenom II X4 at 70% usage. Though it's pretty stupid they didn't include 2500k in this.
Well I guess this is legit. Also, I apologize that I didn't add this earlier, but I also need screen capture (may use for games, too). I don't think that'll make much of a difference though.
I'll go with the i5 then, thanks. I'll post a more updated build as time passes. Thanks for the help skyR
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Switch your RAM from 1X4GB to 2X2GB, dual channel = faster
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The sale starts tonight at 6PM PST. Just wait until than and I'll make a configuration for you.
The core i3 2100 is around $110.
You don't want an Apex 500w... it's shit.
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On November 17 2011 07:41 TrivialRiot wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2011 06:36 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 06:03 TrivialRiot wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 10 2011 07:40 TrivialRiot wrote:
Will anyone please help me find an optimal system? I have never built a PC before, mostly because I've never actually paid for one. However, my PC lags with anything over 100 food in SC2 right now and it's preventing me from getting past silver, so time for an upgrade.
What is your budget?
$1000-$1500, I want to pc to last 5 years + (I think this is realistic?)
What is your resolution?
1680x1050 maybe. 23" monitor but I might game at 1280x1024 right now because my comp sucks, but that might change ya know?
What are you using it for?
I plan to use it to game hardcore... SC2, DOTA 2. I want it to be able to play Battlefield 3 or whatever the newest equivalent will be in 2-3 years, I feel like meeting the specs for FPS that haven't come out yet will be the biggest challenge/most expensive part. Incidentally I want to be able to stream and video record draft caps with decent sound but I have no experience with camstudio or any of that since none of it works(well) on my current PC.
What is your upgrade cycle?
5 years? apparently this is a really long time, but it comes from being financially conservative I guess. I guess it may be unrealistic considering the current rate of technological advances.. but with the right amount of attention things tend to last a long time.
When do you plan on building it?
Now. I have already stalled my prerequisite 6mo-1 year on a large purchase to mull over how I will execute and how much I'm actually willing to spend on something I absolutely do not need under any circumstances.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No. I don't think I'll need to do that to achieve the performance I want and would like to maintain that performance for as long as possible.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes? How would I get by without one(yarr...)? I'm going to go with windows 7 since it will be industry standard for our business coming up soon and it has the least compatibility issues. I would also like to dual boot into linux so I can learn to play with linux unix and learn some programming but I'm not positive on how that changes my hardware needs or if the linux boot would be actually useful if I actually had it.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no
Where are you buying your parts from?
Houston TX. Searching out a barcraft soon. Right now my #1 choice based on recommendations is Newegg but I haven't actually registered there yet.
I did some research and built this wishlist. Posting from my phone so I apologize in advance about the formatting. LIAN LI Lancool PC-K7B Black Aluminum/ SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $89.99 In Stock Remove ASUS P8H67-M LX (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $89.99 In Stock Remove EVGA 012-P3-1571-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $339.99 Out Of Stock Remove Thermaltake BlacX Duet 2.5" & 3.5" Black USB2.0 & eSATA Dual Hard Drives Docking Station $56.86 In Stock Remove OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom $89.99 In Stock Remove Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K $214.99 In Stock pcfin Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW160G3K5 2.5" 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $274.99 In Stock Remove CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2B1600C9 $53.99 In Stock Remove SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AL/BSBE LightScribe Support - OEM $19.99 In Stock Remove Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM $12.98 In Stock Remove COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 $25.99 In Stock You said you won't be overclocking so you don't want a K suffix processor, you'll want a core i5 2400 or core i5 2500. If you plan on doing SLI than it's pretty stupid to not overclock since all the SLI capable boards are P67 or Z68 motherboards, boards that should be paired along with a K suffix processor for overclocking. I'm pretty sure there are no H67 motherboards capable of SLI and the suggested Asrock P67 Pro3 is also not capable of SLI. And I hope you plan on upgrading your monitor to 1080p because getting a GTX 570 and doing SLI at 1680x1050 is pretty wasteful. If you plan on purchasing now, I'd suggest grabbing whatever is on sale at a decent price and plan to have everything together by the end of November. The Seasonic X650 for $100 was a complete steal and is much better than the OCZ but unfortunately it's sold out: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088us.ncix.com often has lower prices on many of the components such as the 2500k for $200 instead of $215. Lian Li is easily regarded as having some of the highest quality cases along with Silverstone though their cases aren't usually a good choice unless you want aluminum or want it for the looks since they aren't price competitive. Lancool is also their budget line so not as good. Bitfenix Shinobi is a good option for $60: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60584&promoid=1363 Though I wouldn't do SLI in either of these cases. Ok I was trying to figure out what the k suffix was. I'm not doing SLI and I have a 1080p monitor. Sorry I didnt remove all the retarded shit from my OP since im in a car on a trip ( no pc) . I get back the 21st so I want to build right before or after thanksgiving. is a 128 gb ssd worth the performance increase? To whoever said arctic silver is a waste, why and what is better?
It's not about the performance difference. It's about the price and the fact that most people don't have 160gb worth of software that needs to be on the SSD. You can still get an Intel 320 120gb if you want the five year warranty but do note that Intel does carry a premium (because of its five year warranty and its Intel) over a Crucial M4 and other SSDs which are faster.
Wasting money on thermal paste on a $20 heatsink is sort of dumb since the difference between the varying paste is like 1C.
On November 17 2011 07:50 denis29 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
up to $1000
What is your resolution?
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What are you using it for?
Gaming, d3/WoW
What is your upgrade cycle?
3 years
When do you plan on building it?
within this month
Do you plan on overclocking?
yes
Do you need an Operating System?
yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no
Where are you buying your parts from?
Somewhere that ships to canada, NCIX?
You were already given a configuration. Please don't post a request if you aren't going to follow the thread. And don't repost if you already received a response unless something drastically changed because you're wasting people's times.
+ Show Spoiler [Your previously suggested configuratio…] +
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On November 17 2011 08:04 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 07:50 denis29 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
up to $1000
What is your resolution?
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What are you using it for?
Gaming, d3/WoW
What is your upgrade cycle?
3 years
When do you plan on building it?
within this month
Do you plan on overclocking?
yes
Do you need an Operating System?
yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
no
Where are you buying your parts from?
Somewhere that ships to canada, NCIX? You were already given a configuration. Please don't post a request if you aren't going to follow the thread. And don't repost if you already received a response unless something drastically changed because you're wasting people's times. + Show Spoiler [Your previously suggested configuratio…] +
...........give me a HDD then.
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I already told you you can add an overpriced HDD yourself or use an existing external one: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58746 If you can't read or have a basic understanding of how to select an HDD than maybe you should reconsider building?
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On November 17 2011 08:09 skyR wrote:I already told you you can add an overpriced HDD yourself or use an existing external one: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58746 If you can't read or have a basic understanding of how to select an HDD than maybe you should reconsider building?
im a 70 year old woman with an eye problem. fuck off cunt.
ps. link doesn't work. you really have bad luck with hdds dont you.
User was temp banned for this post.
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The sale starts tonight at 6PM PST. Just wait until than and I'll make a configuration for you.
The core i3 2100 is around $110.
You don't want an Apex 500w... it's shit.
Ok i see. That'd be great if you could. Ty to you and Shikyo. Dont wanna mess up my first build 
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On November 17 2011 08:10 denis29 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 08:09 skyR wrote:I already told you you can add an overpriced HDD yourself or use an existing external one: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58746 If you can't read or have a basic understanding of how to select an HDD than maybe you should reconsider building? im a 70 year old woman with an eye problem. fuck off cunt. ps. link doesn't work. you really have bad luck with hdds dont you. User was temp banned for this post.
Wow I come back to this thread and this post =D Dude no one has any obligation to help anyone and people only do it to be nice, you could at least try being respectful.
And that's true, wait for the sale if it starts today, I have no idea =P
By the way some companies do SLi/Crossfire confugurations in Finland in Shinobi and they seem to work okay, at least people don't overly complain... they add 2 case fans though. The case can be ordered with the noise dampening that probably helps. Still for a multi-GPU combination I personally would go for something different.
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Lol tech forum bans are sometimes the best bans on teamliquid.
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On November 17 2011 09:36 Medrea wrote:
Lol tech forum bans are sometimes the best bans on teamliquid.
"denis29 was just temp banned for 2 days by riptide.
That account was created on 2011-11-14 07:14:25 and had 4 posts.
Reason: Manner up."
Back to topic, will my build manage...
Streaming, Starcraft 2, Skype, Fraps, Chrome, and other stuff going on in the background well? That's what I'm trying to accomplish here. Is the i5 2320 well enough?
Also, should I pick up 2x2 GB or 1x4? I heard 2x2 is better because it is "dual channel" (whatever that is)?
Thanks. After this, I'm done with my build :D
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Alright, posted earlier in this thread about HDDs and SSDs.
Now I'm looking at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706
for a new SSD, on top of my fairly new 1tb HDD and a failing 400gb HDD (both will be storage after I buy).
Also, I would get 15% off today, from neweggs black november sale today (only particular reason that I would choose this SSD over others), which brings the true total to ~$160.
Any opinions, anyone with experience with this drive? (I looked at the on-site reviews of course, but I always want a responsive opinion).
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 17 2011 10:02 MicroMarine wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:36 Medrea wrote:
Lol tech forum bans are sometimes the best bans on teamliquid. "denis29 was just temp banned for 2 days by riptide. That account was created on 2011-11-14 07:14:25 and had 4 posts. Reason: Manner up." Back to topic, will my build manage... Streaming, Starcraft 2, Skype, Fraps, Chrome, and other stuff going on in the background well? That's what I'm trying to accomplish here. Is the i5 2320 well enough? Also, should I pick up 2x2 GB or 1x4? I heard 2x2 is better because it is "dual channel" (whatever that is)? Thanks. After this, I'm done with my build :D
2x2GB is marginally faster than 1x4gb for ram. However, 1x4gb could be better if its cheaper or you want to upgrade to 2x4gb in the near future. Not a very big deal either way.
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On November 17 2011 10:06 Mordoc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Alright, posted earlier in this thread about HDDs and SSDs. Now I'm looking at: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706for a new SSD, on top of my fairly new 1tb HDD and a failing 400gb HDD (both will be storage after I buy). Also, I would get 15% off today, from neweggs black november sale today (only particular reason that I would choose this SSD over others), which brings the true total to ~$160. Any opinions, anyone with experience with this drive? (I looked at the on-site reviews of course, but I always want a responsive opinion).
Sandforce based SSDs have had problems in the past and still experience problems to this day. Not many people will recommend anything other than the Crucial M4, Intel, and Samsung.
For $140 after mail in rebate, I guess it's not bad...
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Corsair doesn't have quite as many problems as OCZ and Corsair ForceGT is the fastest SSD around nearly hitting the cap of SATA3 so I guess that could be a sandforce one could consider. Though yeah currently I guess I'd just recommend M4 or 830
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Nice finds, tyty. Updated my post with those
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