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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 21 2011 03:23 GMT
#13441
On October 21 2011 12:16 Irby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 10:14 skyR wrote:
You'll be capable of playing on reasonably high settings. Maxed settings? Not likely.


Bummer. Okay, let me simplify it and ask just this then:

Starcraft II: ultra settings with 60 fps on 1080p. Attainable with a GTX 570?

more like 6850
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 21 2011 03:23 GMT
#13442
On October 21 2011 12:16 Irby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 10:14 skyR wrote:
You'll be capable of playing on reasonably high settings. Maxed settings? Not likely.


Bummer. Okay, let me simplify it and ask just this then:

Starcraft II: ultra settings with 60 fps on 1080p. Attainable with a GTX 570?


For SC2 you can do that with graphics cards about half the price of a GTX 570, so yes.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 03:52:05
October 21 2011 03:46 GMT
#13443
On October 21 2011 12:02 Shikyo wrote:
1024x768 and you suggest a 560$ build? Are you kidding me?

Go for a 300$ build with celeron g530, 6570, 4gb, 500gb hdd, 350-400w psu, asgard etc.

That's going to be more than enough for that resolution for any game and you can stream that kind of resolution as well. streaming 720p with 4:3 resolution would be a disaster


Are you joking me?

Upgrading from a Wolfdale, especially a E7500 to a Sandybridge Celeron G530 is hardly considered an upgrade (in fact if his PC wasn't a Dell, it may even be a downgrade).

Why would you suggest a 6570 if you intend for him to keep his current abysmal monitor when his current 4670 is perfectly capable of running most games on reasonably high settings at that resolution. So congratulations - when he intends to buy a new monitor that is 1080p, he'll need to purchase a new graphics card if he intends to play games on anything but low-medium settings.

Why would you even buy a new PC for such a minimal improvement?
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
October 21 2011 04:05 GMT
#13444
On October 21 2011 12:02 Shikyo wrote:
1024x768 and you suggest a 560$ build? Are you kidding me?

Go for a 300$ build with celeron g530, 6570, 4gb, 500gb hdd, 350-400w psu, asgard etc.

That's going to be more than enough for that resolution for any game and you can stream that kind of resolution as well. streaming 720p with 4:3 resolution would be a disaster


Those celeron g530's sure are great for streaming..........240p maybe
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 04:26:26
October 21 2011 04:25 GMT
#13445
On October 21 2011 13:05 CharlieBrownsc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 12:02 Shikyo wrote:
1024x768 and you suggest a 560$ build? Are you kidding me?

Go for a 300$ build with celeron g530, 6570, 4gb, 500gb hdd, 350-400w psu, asgard etc.

That's going to be more than enough for that resolution for any game and you can stream that kind of resolution as well. streaming 720p with 4:3 resolution would be a disaster


Those celeron g530's sure are great for streaming..........240p maybe

You're overestimating the kind of a processor you require for streaming in 1024x768 o.O 480p would be most likely option

But you're correct, I guess it'd be better to just buy the new computer when he gets the new screen >_> Still think that a 2500k for such a low-end computer isn't too harmonious
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 04:38:21
October 21 2011 04:31 GMT
#13446
Hey skyr, what would be the best way for me to keep the vista that i currently have on my pc so i don't have to shell out $100 for a new os. Do i just need the hard drive?

and im already looking into a new monitor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009341
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 21 2011 04:35 GMT
#13447
You don't want to be using an old installation with a new configuration since the older drivers will likely conflict with the drivers of your newer configuration. You want to do a fresh installation, you just need the disc and product key which should be located on a sticker on the side of your Dell case. If you don't have the installation disc, you can just download the iso and burn it to a disc.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
October 21 2011 04:39 GMT
#13448
On October 21 2011 13:35 skyR wrote:
You don't want to be using an old installation with a new configuration since the older drivers will likely conflict with the drivers of your newer configuration. You want to do a fresh installation, you just need the disc and product key which should be located on a sticker on the side of your Dell case. If you don't have the installation disc, you can just download the iso and burn it to a disc.


do you recomend spending 100 bones on 7 or is vista fine? O_O
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 21 2011 04:42 GMT
#13449
On October 21 2011 13:39 aBstractx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 13:35 skyR wrote:
You don't want to be using an old installation with a new configuration since the older drivers will likely conflict with the drivers of your newer configuration. You want to do a fresh installation, you just need the disc and product key which should be located on a sticker on the side of your Dell case. If you don't have the installation disc, you can just download the iso and burn it to a disc.


do you recomend spending 100 bones on 7 or is vista fine? O_O

7 >>> xp >>>>>>> vista
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 21 2011 04:42 GMT
#13450
Vista is fine though 7 is better. If you're a student or know someone that is, you can try getting it for free through MSDNAA.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 21 2011 04:53 GMT
#13451
I would downgrade to XP than stick with Vista for gaming. Fuck DX10 anyway.
twitch.tv/medrea
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 05:07:09
October 21 2011 04:54 GMT
#13452
On October 21 2011 13:42 skyR wrote:
Vista is fine though 7 is better. If you're a student or know someone that is, you can try getting it for free through MSDNAA.


Edit: Learn something new every day.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 21 2011 05:00 GMT
#13453
Microsoft actually raised educational pricing to $65 now.
89vision
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
October 21 2011 05:06 GMT
#13454
this:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64810&vpn=i52500K&Z68MX-UD2H&manufacture=Bundle Deals&promoid=1208

OR

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&vpn=BX80623I52500K&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1208

+

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59095&vpn=P67A-G43 (B3)&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1208


I plan on adding a SSD when samsung comes out with their new line of SSD. Read about it in this thread, is this still true?

I know Z68 have SSD cache(?), does this just make them read/write closer to optimal, like RAM for the SSD? What else does a Z68 board do for me that a P67 can't?

I need an OC capable board, I think both are. Also capable of OC'ing my N460GTX Hawk.
An itch only a deadlift can scratch
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 21 2011 05:09 GMT
#13455
Z68 allows for the use of the IGP which in turn allows for lucid and quick sync. Two features which I highly doubt you care about.

And SSD caching will only be useful to you if you are buying a 20-40gb SSD or if you have so many frequently used applications that can't fit onto your 64gb SSD (I highly doubt this).

Both boards are capable of overclocking.

G43 would be my choice.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 21 2011 05:19 GMT
#13456
Z68 has QuickSync, which is actually really awesome if your software actually supports it. Of course the real benefits are seen in professional applications and not in basic media viewing.

How SSD caching works is that the software essentially dumps the most frequently accessed data into the SSD. When the SSD is full, it automatically deletes the least frequently used data it can find to make room for new data.

The benefit of this is that you don't have to manage your SSD at all and it'll basically boost overall performance. The problem is that reads are unlikely to be as fast as a straight SSD, writes will be as fast as the hard disk (so kind of slow), software has to be frequently used to get any performance boost (so if you run Photoshop once a month, it probably won't load particularly fast), and consumers generally only have ~100GB of program files. If you buy a 64GB SSD, dumping all of your program files straight onto it will probably benefit you more.

I'd personally pick the MSI motherboard option simply because that's a fairly bare bones Gigabyte option, the MSI option is cheaper, and frankly screw Gigabyte for still sticking with BIOS.
Irby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 05:42:55
October 21 2011 05:39 GMT
#13457
On October 21 2011 12:23 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 12:16 Irby wrote:
On October 21 2011 10:14 skyR wrote:
You'll be capable of playing on reasonably high settings. Maxed settings? Not likely.


Bummer. Okay, let me simplify it and ask just this then:

Starcraft II: ultra settings with 60 fps on 1080p. Attainable with a GTX 570?

more like 6850


I don't understand this. Are you saying a 6850 is a better buy? Or more powerful? How does a 6850 stack up against a 570 in power and price?

EDIT: Well I should've looked the 6850 up before I asked this. I notice now that the 6850 is about 150 less than a GTX 570. SO you must've been suggesting I can play SC2 on those settings with something much less expensive, correct?
Live every day to make the world a better place :)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 05:44:18
October 21 2011 05:43 GMT
#13458
On October 21 2011 14:39 Irby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 12:23 Shikyo wrote:
On October 21 2011 12:16 Irby wrote:
On October 21 2011 10:14 skyR wrote:
You'll be capable of playing on reasonably high settings. Maxed settings? Not likely.


Bummer. Okay, let me simplify it and ask just this then:

Starcraft II: ultra settings with 60 fps on 1080p. Attainable with a GTX 570?

more like 6850


I don't understand this. Are you saying a 6850 is a better buy? Or more powerful? How does a 6850 stack up against a 570 in power and price?

EDIT: Well I should've looked the 6850 up before I asked this. I notice now that the 6850 is about 150 less than a GTX 570. SO you must've been suggesting I can play SC2 on those settings with something much less expensive, correct?

Precisely. 6850 should suit your needs and it's half the price.


Custom loop would cost 300$ for both CPU and GPU cooling, why so costly zzz
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
October 21 2011 05:48 GMT
#13459
another thing that has always worried me is the whole "grounding" thing. How can i assure myself that i'm grounded and won't ruin any of the shit i just bought? if i build it on a wood floor will i be good? please explain this in detail to me
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
October 21 2011 05:52 GMT
#13460
Touch your computer case every once in a while if you're seriously afraid of killing parts with static.
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