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On October 21 2011 12:16 Irby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 10:14 skyR wrote: You'll be capable of playing on reasonably high settings. Maxed settings? Not likely. Bummer. Okay, let me simplify it and ask just this then: Starcraft II: ultra settings with 60 fps on 1080p. Attainable with a GTX 570? more like 6850
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On October 21 2011 12:16 Irby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 10:14 skyR wrote: You'll be capable of playing on reasonably high settings. Maxed settings? Not likely. Bummer. Okay, let me simplify it and ask just this then: Starcraft II: ultra settings with 60 fps on 1080p. Attainable with a GTX 570?
For SC2 you can do that with graphics cards about half the price of a GTX 570, so yes.
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On October 21 2011 12:02 Shikyo wrote: 1024x768 and you suggest a 560$ build? Are you kidding me?
Go for a 300$ build with celeron g530, 6570, 4gb, 500gb hdd, 350-400w psu, asgard etc.
That's going to be more than enough for that resolution for any game and you can stream that kind of resolution as well. streaming 720p with 4:3 resolution would be a disaster
Are you joking me?
Upgrading from a Wolfdale, especially a E7500 to a Sandybridge Celeron G530 is hardly considered an upgrade (in fact if his PC wasn't a Dell, it may even be a downgrade).
Why would you suggest a 6570 if you intend for him to keep his current abysmal monitor when his current 4670 is perfectly capable of running most games on reasonably high settings at that resolution. So congratulations - when he intends to buy a new monitor that is 1080p, he'll need to purchase a new graphics card if he intends to play games on anything but low-medium settings.
Why would you even buy a new PC for such a minimal improvement?
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On October 21 2011 12:02 Shikyo wrote: 1024x768 and you suggest a 560$ build? Are you kidding me?
Go for a 300$ build with celeron g530, 6570, 4gb, 500gb hdd, 350-400w psu, asgard etc.
That's going to be more than enough for that resolution for any game and you can stream that kind of resolution as well. streaming 720p with 4:3 resolution would be a disaster
Those celeron g530's sure are great for streaming..........240p maybe
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On October 21 2011 13:05 CharlieBrownsc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 12:02 Shikyo wrote: 1024x768 and you suggest a 560$ build? Are you kidding me?
Go for a 300$ build with celeron g530, 6570, 4gb, 500gb hdd, 350-400w psu, asgard etc.
That's going to be more than enough for that resolution for any game and you can stream that kind of resolution as well. streaming 720p with 4:3 resolution would be a disaster Those celeron g530's sure are great for streaming..........240p maybe You're overestimating the kind of a processor you require for streaming in 1024x768 o.O 480p would be most likely option
But you're correct, I guess it'd be better to just buy the new computer when he gets the new screen >_> Still think that a 2500k for such a low-end computer isn't too harmonious
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You don't want to be using an old installation with a new configuration since the older drivers will likely conflict with the drivers of your newer configuration. You want to do a fresh installation, you just need the disc and product key which should be located on a sticker on the side of your Dell case. If you don't have the installation disc, you can just download the iso and burn it to a disc.
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On October 21 2011 13:35 skyR wrote: You don't want to be using an old installation with a new configuration since the older drivers will likely conflict with the drivers of your newer configuration. You want to do a fresh installation, you just need the disc and product key which should be located on a sticker on the side of your Dell case. If you don't have the installation disc, you can just download the iso and burn it to a disc.
do you recomend spending 100 bones on 7 or is vista fine? O_O
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On October 21 2011 13:39 aBstractx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 13:35 skyR wrote: You don't want to be using an old installation with a new configuration since the older drivers will likely conflict with the drivers of your newer configuration. You want to do a fresh installation, you just need the disc and product key which should be located on a sticker on the side of your Dell case. If you don't have the installation disc, you can just download the iso and burn it to a disc. do you recomend spending 100 bones on 7 or is vista fine? O_O 7 >>> xp >>>>>>> vista
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Vista is fine though 7 is better. If you're a student or know someone that is, you can try getting it for free through MSDNAA.
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I would downgrade to XP than stick with Vista for gaming. Fuck DX10 anyway.
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On October 21 2011 13:42 skyR wrote: Vista is fine though 7 is better. If you're a student or know someone that is, you can try getting it for free through MSDNAA.
Edit: Learn something new every day.
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Microsoft actually raised educational pricing to $65 now.
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Z68 allows for the use of the IGP which in turn allows for lucid and quick sync. Two features which I highly doubt you care about.
And SSD caching will only be useful to you if you are buying a 20-40gb SSD or if you have so many frequently used applications that can't fit onto your 64gb SSD (I highly doubt this).
Both boards are capable of overclocking.
G43 would be my choice.
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Z68 has QuickSync, which is actually really awesome if your software actually supports it. Of course the real benefits are seen in professional applications and not in basic media viewing.
How SSD caching works is that the software essentially dumps the most frequently accessed data into the SSD. When the SSD is full, it automatically deletes the least frequently used data it can find to make room for new data.
The benefit of this is that you don't have to manage your SSD at all and it'll basically boost overall performance. The problem is that reads are unlikely to be as fast as a straight SSD, writes will be as fast as the hard disk (so kind of slow), software has to be frequently used to get any performance boost (so if you run Photoshop once a month, it probably won't load particularly fast), and consumers generally only have ~100GB of program files. If you buy a 64GB SSD, dumping all of your program files straight onto it will probably benefit you more.
I'd personally pick the MSI motherboard option simply because that's a fairly bare bones Gigabyte option, the MSI option is cheaper, and frankly screw Gigabyte for still sticking with BIOS.
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On October 21 2011 12:23 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 12:16 Irby wrote:On October 21 2011 10:14 skyR wrote: You'll be capable of playing on reasonably high settings. Maxed settings? Not likely. Bummer. Okay, let me simplify it and ask just this then: Starcraft II: ultra settings with 60 fps on 1080p. Attainable with a GTX 570? more like 6850
I don't understand this. Are you saying a 6850 is a better buy? Or more powerful? How does a 6850 stack up against a 570 in power and price?
EDIT: Well I should've looked the 6850 up before I asked this. I notice now that the 6850 is about 150 less than a GTX 570. SO you must've been suggesting I can play SC2 on those settings with something much less expensive, correct?
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On October 21 2011 14:39 Irby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 12:23 Shikyo wrote:On October 21 2011 12:16 Irby wrote:On October 21 2011 10:14 skyR wrote: You'll be capable of playing on reasonably high settings. Maxed settings? Not likely. Bummer. Okay, let me simplify it and ask just this then: Starcraft II: ultra settings with 60 fps on 1080p. Attainable with a GTX 570? more like 6850 I don't understand this. Are you saying a 6850 is a better buy? Or more powerful? How does a 6850 stack up against a 570 in power and price? EDIT: Well I should've looked the 6850 up before I asked this. I notice now that the 6850 is about 150 less than a GTX 570. SO you must've been suggesting I can play SC2 on those settings with something much less expensive, correct? Precisely. 6850 should suit your needs and it's half the price.
Custom loop would cost 300$ for both CPU and GPU cooling, why so costly zzz
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another thing that has always worried me is the whole "grounding" thing. How can i assure myself that i'm grounded and won't ruin any of the shit i just bought? if i build it on a wood floor will i be good? please explain this in detail to me
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Touch your computer case every once in a while if you're seriously afraid of killing parts with static.
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