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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Westerhound
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland69 Posts
October 21 2011 17:48 GMT
#13481
Ok pretty much got everything cabled up and shit now, but just realized that the heatsink fan is pointing towards the front of the machine. Is this optimal, even though the fan is in the back of the case (Antec Three Hundred), or should I just turn it to face the fan?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#13482
You'll need a picture since what you said can be interpreted both ways... You want it to be oriented so that it pushes air through the heatsink from the front to the back. I'm assuming this is what you meant? Unless you installed the fan wrong than this would be terrible since you would have two fans pulling air in different directions.
brokor
Profile Joined June 2011
Greece235 Posts
October 21 2011 17:58 GMT
#13483
my current rig:


MS Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Yorkfield 45nm Technology
RAM
4,00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 656MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5Q3 DELUXE (LGA 775)
Graphics
SyncMaster (1680x1050@60Hz)
1024MB GeForce GTX 280 (ASUStek Computer Inc)
Hard Drives
488GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00A7B0 (SATA)
488GB Hitachi Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 (SATA)
Optical Drives
ASUS DRW-2014L1 SCSI CdRom Device

i need to point out i didnt assemble this rig, nor did i know much about computers in 2008 that i had it made for a huge chunk of money (back then these parts were expensive :/)

i am wondering if this is a good point to upgrade.
i am not looking into full new setup, just change some parts.
primarily, i am worried about the GPU. it tends to overheat a bit and although it plays everything the fps i get sometimes reduce alot. is this a good point to upgrade or should i w8 a bit?
also no matter what, when i monitor it with GPU-z max memory used is 35% even after opening 3 different games for hours.
secondly, i desperately need a new OS and i was thinking of also buying an SSD to go with it. i have zero experience with SSD's, but i guess installing a os on it and getting my pc to boot with the ssd would be fine. if i add a SSD will i be able to just leave my current Hdd's as is, or will it be difficult to access them through win7 on the ssd? (have a lot of files on them). also i will look aorund aswell, but which programs do u usually install on SSD's?
the CPU is a bit outdated but i can overclock it to 3.7-3.9 just fine, although it becomes a bit noisy, since i cannot use the onboard control (Asus Sixengine. awesome software for me)

i am only looking for advice and pointers. i repeat i have only recently become an enthusiast about PC's, so feel free to use terms but i am not familiar with complex procedures.

This pc has been my baby for 3 years and some months, although in the beginning it had some problems. it is still trustworthy and loyal just needs some fresh air.

finally, i have a 750W psu and a huge case so size wouldnt be a problem. also, some fans on my case are broken and i cannot find replacements (well 1 is 25cm and the other 36cm and all stores i have been to only have up to 20cm fans) but i will look into it asap so case cooling wouldnt be a problem*i have some enthusiast friends who may help em out).
i would prefer upgrading the pc on my own, but if an tech savvy person is essential then i can give into the pressure.

thank you all, i think what you do is awesome for the community.
Winter is Coming
Westerhound
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland69 Posts
October 21 2011 17:59 GMT
#13484
Leet paint illustration:
[image loading]
I not really sure what fans blow air to what direction, but Im assuming I should go for option #1 here then, like it currently is.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 21 2011 18:02 GMT
#13485
The top fan should be exhausting (pulling air from inside to the outside of the case).

The fan on the back of the case and the heatsink #2 fan next to the back fan should also both be exhaust.

The fan nearest the memory modules should be your intake fan (pushing air through the heatsink).
Westerhound
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland69 Posts
October 21 2011 18:07 GMT
#13486
There is only one heatsink fan, those are the two options that I have. It always has the same side towards the heatsink as well, so they both blow air through the heatsink (I think). But if the case fan on the back blows air out of the case then I defo dont want them to be next to each other I assume (they blow in different directiions about 5 cm away from each other)
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 18:11:24
October 21 2011 18:08 GMT
#13487
So pretty much like this.
[image loading]

I use a Hyper 212+ and use both Option #1 and #2.

If you only have 1 fan, I'd use Option #1.

Both Case Fans should already be pre-set to blow in the right direction. You have to make sure the heatsink fans are, though. Usually, the side with the fan specs label (not the brand label) is the side the fan blows towards.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 21 2011 18:20 GMT
#13488
@brokor:

Unless the performance is poor in whatever you want to do, I do not think an overclocked Q9550 or GTX 280 need an upgrade yet.

If you have not recently (or ever, which would explain things), you want to clean out your GTX 280 and the rest of your computer. Turn it off, unplug the GTX 280, hold the fan still, and use compressed air to blow dust out of the heatsink. That should improve temperatures. (possibly it could need new thermal paste, but likely just dust is the problem)

If you want to upgrade OS, that is a good time to get an SSD yes, since you will need to reinstall programs anyway. To be sure, I would just unplug all the hard drives, plug in the SSD, install the OS on the SSD, and then plug back in the HDDs to use them.

Install whichever programs you frequently use, on the SSD, particularly if they do not take up too much space.

Current SSDs to look for are the Intel 320, Samsung 470, Crucial M4, and Crucial C300. Pick whichever is cheapest of those, with a capacity large enough for you. At the moment, with firmware issues resolved, these are all some of the more reliable options, and they are all fast enough for home use.
Clockworkkkk
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
October 21 2011 21:26 GMT
#13489
new build

PSU- OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Modular High Performance Power Supply (65$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016

MOBO- ASRock Intel Motherboard (105$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251

HD- Seagate Barracuda Internal Hard Drive OEM (65$)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate

CPU- Intel Core 15-2500k (209$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073

RAM- G.SKill Ripjaws X series (35$)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426

DVD- LG Internal 22X SUPER-MULTI Drive Black Pata OEM (25$)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57902&vpn=GH22NP21&manufacture=LG Electronics&promoid=1208

Total= 504$

yes i have a cap card. how does this build look?

Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 21 2011 21:55 GMT
#13490
purpose is?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Clockworkkkk
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
October 21 2011 22:10 GMT
#13491
On October 22 2011 06:55 Shikyo wrote:
purpose is?


Streaming console shooters with the black magic intensity pro and probably some gameplay when diablo 3 comes out.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 21 2011 22:14 GMT
#13492
Then I really don't see the point of the mobo/cpu combo, why not just go for something 100$ cheaper? and what's the gpu
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Clockworkkkk
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
October 21 2011 22:22 GMT
#13493
On October 22 2011 07:14 Shikyo wrote:
Then I really don't see the point of the mobo/cpu combo, why not just go for something 100$ cheaper? and what's the gpu

GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102941

what would be 100$ cheaper then the mobo.cpu combo? any suggestions.. and why do i not need them i dont know alot about computers so im not really sure what i need and what i dont.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 21 2011 22:25 GMT
#13494
Well what's the purpose of getting a 300+$ CPU and mobo combo when your graphics card and rest of the system is so weak? A more in-line processor would be something like a sandybridge pentium or maybe i3
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Clockworkkkk
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
October 21 2011 22:32 GMT
#13495
well i want to make sure the CPU is good enough to stream with the black magic intensity pro on 1080i @ 60fps or 720p @ 60fps/30fps is a i3 able to do that? like i said i dont know pretty much anything about computers im just going on these parts based on suggestions/advice from skyr and myrmidon cause they seem to know alot about computers.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 21 2011 22:47 GMT
#13496
Don't listen to shikyo -.- Remain with the 2500k
Clockworkkkk
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
October 21 2011 23:00 GMT
#13497
On October 22 2011 07:47 skyR wrote:
Don't listen to shikyo -.- Remain with the 2500k

haha okay so is this new build better then the old? and do i need a gpu? myrmidon said to wait till diablo 3 comes out to get one.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
October 21 2011 23:07 GMT
#13498
I think you're going through a brainfart Shikyo.

If all he wants to do is display his console games and streams, he's going to want a CPU-heavy-ended rig, and a cheap graphics card. The graphics card isnt' going to be producing the images, his console will. All it needs to do is display at the proper resolution he wants.

I would also advise you get another monitor and use a Y-splitter. Using your computer as a passthrough is going to cause some delay on your screen while playing.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 23:15:51
October 21 2011 23:10 GMT
#13499
On October 22 2011 08:00 Clockworkkkk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 07:47 skyR wrote:
Don't listen to shikyo -.- Remain with the 2500k

haha okay so is this new build better then the old? and do i need a gpu? myrmidon said to wait till diablo 3 comes out to get one.



If all you're going to be doing until Diablo 3 comes out is playing on your console and streaming/recording it, then yes, you can wait. I believe the 2500k IGP will be good enough to display at 1080p whatever console input you're using (someone else can confirm this I guess -- I'm not sure if there will be any background graphic coding going on).

And even if the IGP isn't enough, you can get like a cheap HD 5450 or 5570.

IMO, you don't want an HD 5770 right now since that might not make the cut for Diablo 3. It's supposedly going to have more GPU requirements than SC2, so if you're going to buy anything that expensive right now, you might as well get something better like atleast an HD 6850, GTX 460, or HD 6870.

Also make sure you got enough bandwidth to stream at whatever resolution you want.
Clockworkkkk
Profile Joined October 2011
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-21 23:23:02
October 21 2011 23:19 GMT
#13500
this is the moniter i have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009162
so are you saying i need a moniter for the tv and the computer?

hows this GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948
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