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On August 29 2010 15:47 1312020 wrote:
Hey guys, this is probably going to be my last post in this thread asking about my own computer until I'm putting it together and posting pictures. Although I swore I've said that at least twice.
So for my mobo, I was going to grab an EVGA x58 SLI LE for 160 on Newegg. However, I just discovered EVGA's backstock page on their website. I can pick up an EVGA x58 SLI for 140, versus the 190 I would have to pay pre-rebate for the other SLI LE. And if I wanted to I could get the SLI LE for 120 from backstock. However, my real question comes with the text to the side of the product.
It says it does not come with any accessories. This has kind of left me confused. Does it not come with any cables at all? This worries me, because after looking at a review for the product there's a lot of things that could be considered "accessories" and would not come with the board. (http://www.guru3d.com/article/evga-x58-sli-review/5)
If it just doesn't come with some SATA cables or something, I think I'll be fine, because I can just order those for pretty low prices, right? But what I'm worried about is what if it doesn't come with a power cord or something like that. If anybody has any experience with backstock ordering and such any help would be much appreciated.
You're only going to get the motherboard. There will be no cables and no I/O plate.
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Can you give a link to the stuff you're talking about? SATA Cables are cheap. ~$2-$5 each.
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Get the 460GTX its better and it cost less
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You don't specify what you need it for or what settings you want to run in which games. Also your current computer specs would be nice to know so you know that you aren't bottlenecking yourself or overextending your power supply. Assuming you're just talking about SC2 the Gigabyte 460 is all you need for ultra.
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On August 29 2010 18:05 R04R wrote:
You don't specify what you need it for or what settings you want to run in which games. Also your current computer specs would be nice to know so you know that you aren't bottlenecking yourself or overextending your power supply. Assuming you're just talking about SC2 the Gigabyte 460 is all you need for ultra.
currently i have a C2Q processor @2.4ghz, 4gigs ram and a 250gb hdd. my power supply is a thermaltake 550w modular one.i'm gonna be running on a 19 inch lcd screen at 1440X900 resolution.i just hope my cpu dosen't bottleneck it.
btw i'm not just talking about SC2 but for every game out there.i know that max settings on all games with this pc is probably not gonna be possible.but i just need something to improve the frame rates cuz currently my 8600gt isn't cutting it.
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Hi guys, I need a PC for heavy video and photo editing...the only problem is I have no idea which CPU to get. There are three routes I can take:
1) Wait for the new AMD Bulldozer and Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs to pop out and see where to go from there.
2) Get a Intel i7 930
3) Get a AMD X6 1090T
I'm upgrading from a C2E processor so I can't reuse the motherboard or memory. I'm curious to see what you guys think is the better route if I want to build a PC for strictly work purposes. The software I'll mainly be dealing with is 7zip, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Premiere (maybe Avid), and Adobe Lightroom.
I'll probably be told to read benchmarks but that's exactly the issue: the AMD X6 1090T reviews and benchmarks are generally inconsistent. I feel that maybe Teamliquid will be the place to give me a good answer without all the Intel/AMD fanboy biases you find on computer enthusiast websites.
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How urgent do you need this? C2E? You mean C2D right? Well, the easiest fix would be to get a Core 2 Quad, add some more RAM, and maybe even an aftermarket heatsink+overclock and still follow option 1.
Can't comment on the 930/1090t comparison. I'd assume they're both great for their money, and would probably give similar results. The 1090t would be the cheaper option because AM3 Mobos are a lot cheaper than x58 mobos. Hmm... actually if you're near a microcenter a 930 can be had for $200, and then the prices would almost even out. Edit again. The 1090T is $260 at microcenter so it still ends up being cheaper. Q9300 at microcenter for $130
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Yes C2D is what I meant. I've already got 4GB of RAM in my current PC and I've overclocked my CPU...but its still too slow to handle heavy workloads. I could add more RAM but I don't see any point since DDR2 is practically obsolete and I don't think my motherboard can even handle 8GB of RAM.
My budget is around $1,500 AUD so I have a decent amount of breathing room, especially since I can reuse my case, power supply, hard drives, and GPU.
Its not urgent but I'd very much would like some sort of workstation by October this year.
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On August 29 2010 20:28 Womwomwom wrote:
Yes C2D is what I meant. I've already got 4GB of RAM in my current PC and I've overclocked my CPU...but its still too slow to handle heavy workloads. I could add more RAM but I don't see any point since DDR2 is practically obsolete and I don't think my motherboard can even handle 8GB of RAM.
My budget is around $1,500 AUD so I have a decent amount of breathing room, especially since I can reuse my case, power supply, hard drives, and GPU.
Its not urgent but I'd very much would like some sort of workstation by October this year.
if it's not too urgent i suggest you wait until sandy bridge comes out. i hear they are much better than the current generation core series processors in price per performance ratio and also consume less power as well.
don't know much about the bulldozer though.but i hear it's gonna be quite good.though i think it won't be as good as sandy bridge.
but if you really can't wait then i suggest going with the i7 930.though i hear intel are cutting prices of the i7 950 next month to 294 usd compared to it's launch price of 562 dollars.so your choice.
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On August 29 2010 02:06 Myrmidon wrote:zekie, definitely 600 CAD is too much. Laptops around the 600 CAD range usually can't play SC2 on lowest settings satisfactorily because they have integrated graphics. The ones that do have discrete graphics at that range should be able to play on lowest settings fine; however, I wouldn't bother unless the mobility is important to you. + Show Spoiler [cheap newegg.ca build] +I tried to keep the total low under 500 CAD while being more powerful than the old 600 CAD computer offer and keeping questionable components to a minimum. Most of the skimping came on the AM2/AM2+/AM3 mobo and just 2 GB DDR2 RAM. It's enough RAM for your purposes and the RAM has a good reputation, but the mobo manufacturer does not.
So I am going to upgrade to http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042 that case with a better video card but I noticed that the other case came with a power supply and this one does not. which power supply should I get for my computer? also am upgrading the mobo/processor to http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.455960
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does P55 mobos support core i3?
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EDIT: Nevermind, changed my mind. Hopefully for the last time.
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Mystor: + Show Spoiler +Actually, the Corsair CX430 is a new product without reviews, so we're not sure exactly how well it does (granted, Corsair is selling it, so it should be good). It's also only rated to deliver 28 A on +12V. The CX400 is a slightly older model that is known to be reliable. Somehow, the CX400 can deliver 30 A on +12V even though the total rating is 400W instead of 430W. Most computer components take power from +12V, so that's the most important stat. In other words, the CX400 is actually better, by a very small margin. But actually, the Earthwatts Green 380D is available for 45 CAD shipped, so it may be a better deal. It's a good budget Delta OEM PSU. This unit has the same 28 A on +12V as the Corsair CX430. Take it what you will, but an overclocked i7-920 system (more power required by the CPU than yours) with a GTX 460 doesn't take more than 330W while benchmarking (see here) so that should be okay. While gaming you shouldn't go over 75% of rated capacity with the 380W unit. Granted, PSUs get louder and hotter closer to their max capacity. If you're worried about power, you can try the Neo Eco 520C. Both the Neo Eco 520C and Earthwatts Green 380D don't come with a power cord, so you'd need to get one if you don't have one already. If your budget has increased, the most obvious upgrade is to go from a GTX 460 768MB to a GTX 460 1GB like this one. (The difference between those models is more than just VRAM.) Save the rest for a better monitor IMO.
zekie: + Show Spoiler +get the Earthwatts Green 380D for 45 CAD. Especially for your lower-powered parts you shouldn't be anywhere near the rated capacity. The PSU that came with the NSK 4482 case was actually an Earthwatts Green 380 (no D), which is probably very slightly better, but it's not a big deal. Again, you would need your own power cord as that PSU doesn't come with one.
Garnet: + Show Spoiler +P55 mobos support the Core i3 processors, just not the integrated graphics on the CPU package.
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Do you guys think Diablo III will be more or less computationally intensive than SC2?
Blizz hasn't revealed any specifications yet have they?
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I'd say Diablo III will be less CPU intensive, although not by much once you see hundreds of people on your screen, a bit more graphics intensive depending on how all out Blizzard goes with it. Generally similarly demanding as SC2
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On August 30 2010 02:20 Myrmidon wrote:zekie: + Show Spoiler +get the Earthwatts Green 380D for 45 CAD. Especially for your lower-powered parts you shouldn't be anywhere near the rated capacity. The PSU that came with the NSK 4482 case was actually an Earthwatts Green 380 (no D), which is probably very slightly better, but it's not a big deal. Again, you would need your own power cord as that PSU doesn't come with one.
the power cord from the computer I'm using now would be fine woudn't it? I'm guessing they're generic unless I need one with more power. and can i get them on newegg?
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On August 30 2010 00:48 Garnet wrote:
does P55 mobos support core i3?
yes, but you don't get the integrated video.
for the onboard video to work you need a h55 or h57 board.
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On August 30 2010 11:05 zekie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2010 02:20 Myrmidon wrote:zekie: + Show Spoiler +get the Earthwatts Green 380D for 45 CAD. Especially for your lower-powered parts you shouldn't be anywhere near the rated capacity. The PSU that came with the NSK 4482 case was actually an Earthwatts Green 380 (no D), which is probably very slightly better, but it's not a big deal. Again, you would need your own power cord as that PSU doesn't come with one. the power cord from the computer I'm using now would be fine woudn't it? I'm guessing they're generic unless I need one with more power. and can i get them on newegg?
Yeah, reuse the old one. It's just a power connector, and they're all rated for something like 10+ A at 115 V (i.e. way more power than your PSU can draw). I think it's part of their whole "green" marketing thing, and it saves the manufacturer a little money too.
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