EPTOn August 28 2010 03:10 a176 wrote:
Are you posting what you have or what you're going to buy?
Are you posting what you have or what you're going to buy?
thinking about buying ^^
how well do you guys think this wouldrun Sc2?
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zekie
Canada380 Posts
thinking about buying ^^ how well do you guys think this wouldrun Sc2? | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On August 28 2010 05:19 deconduo wrote: I don't know why you recommended that CPU and RAM, both are terrible choices. The Athlon II X3 and G-Skill that he picked out are much much better. I would go with the Gigabyte motherboard. That foxcon one looks pretty bad. While the GTS 460 is awesome, the 5770 is just as good value for money, especially for a budget build. I would bump up to a 460 if you can afford it though. You should pick up a Spinpoint F3 rather than a caviar black, same performance and the spinpoint is cheaper. For a power supply, the OCZ Fatal1ty should be just fine. The Athlon X2 and X3 perform about at the same level. The X2 will edge out the X3 because you get a faster core speed for cheaper, vs an extra core that some apps may not use. So with my build, you get a comparably fast cpu and a stellar gpu. Lastly, the OCZ stick offers far better timings and a heatspreader over the gskill? Myrmidon's build offers the best cpu selection. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 28 2010 08:02 zekie wrote: thinking about buying ^^ how well do you guys think this wouldrun Sc2? Those are some fairly ancient parts. The processor is a few generations old (a little over 5 years), and it's only 2.0 GHz. It's probably the weakest link. The 7950 is almost as old, but it was a top-of-the-line card back in the day. It should be around as good as a card you can pick up for $60 today. The 8600 GTS is a little newer, but it's not a high-end card in its generation so it won't be nearly as good. The memory is DDR1, where most people upgrading their computers today are using DDR2. Modern computers can only use DDR3. i.e. the memory, like the mobo/CPU, is correspondingly old and slow. At least the case looks okay, and the PSU is mostly okay too (only out of spec when delivering more power than those parts would use). I would think the GPU can handle medium graphics and shaders just fine, but the CPU might struggle keeping up with any large number of units in the game. Also, the CPU isn't much upgradeable without changing the motherboard and RAM. All in all, it looks like a high-end gaming machine from four years ago, probably not worth buying these days. What's the asking price? | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On August 28 2010 08:07 a176 wrote: The Athlon X2 and X3 perform about at the same level. The X2 will edge out the X3 because you get a faster core speed for cheaper, vs an extra core that some apps may not use. So with my build, you get a comparably fast cpu and a stellar gpu. Lastly, the OCZ stick offers far better timings and a heatspreader over the gskill? Myrmidon's build offers the best cpu selection. No, the Athlon II X3 is still a better choice than either the phenom x2 or the athlon x2 for gaming. The extra core has been shown time and time again to be much better than a small increase in clock speed, even in games that aren't properly threaded yet like starcraft 2. The only reason you would get the Phenom X2 over the athlon X3 is because of the unlocked multiplier which makes it much easier to overclock. Recently OCZ ram is notoriously bad. You have to be very luck to find a pair with both sticks working perfectly. After paying shipping for RMAing a few times, the low price won't seem quite as nice anymore. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On August 28 2010 09:17 deconduo wrote: No, the Athlon II X3 is still a better choice than either the phenom x2 or the athlon x2 for gaming. The extra core has been shown time and time again to be much better than a small increase in clock speed, even in games that aren't properly threaded yet like starcraft 2. The only reason you would get the Phenom X2 over the athlon X3 is because of the unlocked multiplier which makes it much easier to overclock. Recently OCZ ram is notoriously bad. You have to be very luck to find a pair with both sticks working perfectly. After paying shipping for RMAing a few times, the low price won't seem quite as nice anymore. do you want to show me where the X3 is so amazingly better than the X2? As I've provided one link. Here's another: http://techreport.com/articles.x/18448/6 Dirt 2 and MW2 make use of extra cores. SC2 doesn't: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/blizzard-entertainment-starcraft-ii-benchmark,2611-9.html | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
http://ncix.com/promo/promosale.php?webid=firstmarkham2010 | ||
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Divine[aX]
Canada161 Posts
On August 28 2010 11:45 mishimaBeef wrote: ncix.com has a crazy sale tonight and tomorrow morning for those in canada http://ncix.com/promo/promosale.php?webid=firstmarkham2010 Pretty good sale at NCIX $70 CAD for a G15 $70 CAD for a Steelseries 6GV2 and $35 CAD for a Razer DeathAdder [Got one myself] | ||
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[Fin]Vittu
Canada507 Posts
I'm currently looking for a gaming computer : What is your budget? 750 dollars canadian What is your resolution? 1280x1024 and/or 1440x900 What are you using it for? Games games and more games! I don't photoshop or edit videos. Occaisionally MSN, browse and word process. What is your upgrade cycle? My ugprade cycle is pretty huge, like 3-4 years. When do you plan on building it? I plan on building it as soon as possible! I need this really really much! : ) Do you plan on overclocking? No sir ree bob. Do you need an Operating System? I have windows XP. That should be handle any game, correct me if I'm wrong. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I honestly have no idea what those are. But if I can game perfectly fine without them, then I don't need it. Where are you buying your parts from? In my town, we have an NCIX. I want to try avoiding buying online because of S&H : ) I really want a high end graphics card, as I intend on playing everything on it's highest settings possible. Thanks in advance. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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exarchrum
United States491 Posts
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[Fin]Vittu
Canada507 Posts
In terms of keyboard, and mice, I have them. I can't really salvage anything my old computer. So everthing is going to be brand new. I would like 64bit please. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
Is it possible to use combo deals at ncix when you buy in-store? | ||
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[Fin]Vittu
Canada507 Posts
and i plan on upgrading to windows 7 64bit down the road. I believe for NCIX, if i buy enough all at once, those guys will be nice enough to give me a discount. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47459 $161.44 Motherboard: ASUS M4A87TD/USB3 AM3 DDR3 ATX AMD 870GX SB850 PCI-E16 PCI-E1 2PCI SATA 6GB/S USB3.0 http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=52677 $110.40 Graphics Card: XFX Radeon HD 5770 850MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI Display Port DIRECTX11 http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=44932&promoid=1053 Free game with card http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55239 $154.99 and $139.99 after $15 MIR RAM: G.SKILL F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH Ripjaws PC3-10666 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-21 http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42744&promoid=1053 $97.99 Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=36050&promoid=1053 $38.99 Case: Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower Gaming Case 300 http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&promoid=1053 $53.99 Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Essential ST50F-ES 500W http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49495 $66.06 Optical Drive: Sony Opticarc 24X Dual Layer DVD Writer with Lightscribe Black SATA OEM http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=51110 $29.99 Total before taxes/shipping: $713.85 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [NCIX, about 660 CAD before shipping?] + Intel Core i3-530 and Gigabyte H55M-S2 Motherboard -- 170 CAD http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55345&vpn=Core i3 530 & H55M-S2&manufacture=Bundle Deals&promoid=1053 + Show Spoiler [Alternative CPU+mobo] + The above is a dual core. If you want a good quad core and a bigger, better motherboard, you can try this instead. It's better than the AMD quad cores by a significant but not huge margin: Intel Core i5-760 and MSI P55-G55 Motherboard -- 280 CAD (over budget) http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55331&vpn=P55-G55 & i5 760&manufacture=Bundle Deals&promoid=1053 Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB -- 39 CAD (edit: didn't see this at first) http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=36050&promoid=1053 MSI Cyclone GTX 460 1GB -- 230 CAD http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54624&vpn=N460GTX Cyclone1GD5/OC&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1053 G.Skill 2x2GB 1600 Ripjaws DDR3 RAM -- 95 CAD http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42745&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL&manufacture=G.Skill&promoid=1053 LG 22X SATA DVD Writer -- 23 CAD http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=40435&vpn=GH22NS50&manufacture=LG Electronics&promoid=1053 OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W -- 50 CAD http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33040&vpn=OCZ500MXSP&manufacture=OCZ Technology&promoid=1053 Antec 300 Case -- 55 CAD http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=29812&vpn=THREE HUNDRED&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1053 | ||
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Divine[aX]
Canada161 Posts
You can buy your items online (Find combos, price match, etc) and then pick it up at your local NCIX without paying any S&H fees, granted you have a credit card. | ||
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MaBe
United States97 Posts
500-600 US$ What is your resolution? Need a monitor. Preferably a 15/17in widescreen. What are you using it for? Mainly games. Ability to play newer games on high/older on highest. Since I've been using a DELL E1505 laptop I'm sick of having 20fps. What is your upgrade cycle? 1-2 years When do you plan on building it? Before 2011. Do you plan on overclocking? If it will help preformance and get the most out of what I paid then, yes. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? TBH Idk what those are. Where are you buying your parts from? I have a microcenter nearby. Also Newegg if deals are better. I have been gaming, if you can call it that, on a DELL E1505 laptop for 5 years now. I am sick of playing on low/medium gfx and still getting 20-30fps. It has hendered the games me and my friends are able to play for quite sometime. It has even kept my interest in games on the low. I would love to have a decent PC built but if need be I have no problem piecing it together as time and money become available. I don't know the first thing about building a PC, hence me posting here. I will continue to lurk for info on building a PC. Thank you. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
Does your microcenter location have this motherboard in stock? http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0342512 or this? http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?sku=660001 | ||
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[Fin]Vittu
Canada507 Posts
i will definietely check those two out | ||
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Canada507 Posts
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