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ST1M
United States9 Posts
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ST1M
United States9 Posts
On August 26 2010 08:00 Myrmidon wrote: HandBanana, would you rather spend up to $600 for more performance or spend less to get the performance you want on medium? The budget is pretty healthy considering the relatively low expectations. Sorry for the confusion. This is Handbanana. Long story short, I got my accounts confused when I was using my other OS partition. I wanted to switch my TL name, but you needed to wait three days to post in the General sections. I'm looking to spend the $600  tldr HandBanana = ST1M :o And I meant to edit my above post, not double post. I need to sleep. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
I think my graphics card is brokedddd =/ I haven't done anything different from before but now I'm getting artifacts and processes stop responding after a couple seconds of opening something video related like a game or youtube video. I'm going to update my drivers to Catalyst 10.8, as it was previously 10.6, but I don't think it's going to help much. Sapphire Vapor-X 4850 1gb ddr3. Corsair TX-650 Phenom II x2 555 unlocked to stable triple core with prime 95 890GXM-G65 Mobo Spinpoint F3 1gb 2x2gb G skill | ||
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decafchicken
United States20159 Posts
On August 26 2010 09:43 R04R wrote: I can't tell you if the processor is sufficient enough, I don't have first hand experience myself, but I haven't seen anyone complain about not being able to achieve high frame rates with a processor like Phenom II 955 and a GTX 460. I think my graphics card is brokedddd =/ I haven't done anything different from before but now I'm getting artifacts and processes stop responding after a couple seconds of opening something video related like a game or youtube video. I'm going to update my drivers to Catalyst 10.8, as it was previously 10.6, but I don't think it's going to help much. Sapphire Vapor-X 4850 1gb ddr3. Corsair TX-650 Phenom II x2 555 unlocked to stable triple core with prime 95 890GXM-G65 Mobo Spinpoint F3 1gb 2x2gb G skill I think your problem is stemming from your 1gb hard drive. You cant even install windows let alone sc2 on that! | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If you want a newer motherboard and new RAM, you can try this mobo/CPU (Phenom II X2 555 BE) combo or this one if you want to spend more for USB 3.0 and SATA 6 GB/s support and more peripheral slots. Some people would argue against getting a dual core these days, but for SC2 it should be good enough. It's only certain games and applications that really make good use of more processor cores. If you want to spend some $40 more to get a quad core, you can get one of the Phenom II X4. With those more modern AM3-only mobos like the above, you'd need RAM like this DDR3 kit. Together with the above that's around $250. A budget gaming case people like is the Antec 300 for around $60 before rebate, though of course there are others. edit: HandBanana: in that kind of extreme 4v4 big battle scenario, it seems to be true that the Phenom II X4 955 could be a liability. If you turn down CPU-related graphics options like physics calculations (and leave shaders on ultra, for example), it would improve performance. I'm not sure how much though. In that scenario, you probably couldn't maintain 60 fps, as a guess. Overall R04R's build is a good value, but if you want to move on up... Core i5-750 and GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.462198 Bracket to make the Xigmatek Dark Knight compatible with the processor/mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233038&Tpk=N82E16835233038 G.Skill 2x2GB 1333 DDR3 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253 Same slickdeals deal for GTX 460 1GB: http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/38386/msi-n460gtx-cyclone-geforce-gtx-460-1gb-gddr5-video-card It's probably just a bit above budget. Your call.  | ||
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ST1M
United States9 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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zekie
Canada380 Posts
CPU - AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual-Core 3800+ MOBO - A8N-SLI Premium UAYZ GPU - BFG GeForce 8600 GTS - GeForce 7950 GX2 PSU - OCZ GXS700 700W SLI Power Supply MEMORY - 2 x 1GB Kingston HyperX PC3200 KHX3200K2/2G - 2 x 512MB Generic PC3200 HDD - 120GB IDE WD1200JB-00G - 80GB IDE ST380011A OS - Windows XP or Windows 7 CASE - A-Top XBlade Gaming Mid-Tower ATX Case | ||
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JewJewBees
United States87 Posts
I recently completed my computer build running an i5-750/gts250 (from pny if that matters) and while everything else seems to run smoothly, my monitor fails to recieve signal as soon as I do the reboot after installing the drivers for the GPU. (I've tried installing from the CD as well as directly from the website). I poked around online and many people said that the power supply may be an issue but I'm currently using a 550W from Coolermaster and the gts250 has a requirement of 450W. Another possible problem might be the monitor that I'm using is simply too old and can't handle the resolution that the drivers automatically set the computer to (not sure if it works that way). To attempt to test if that was the problem, I tried booting it up using the "Boot using lowest resolution" option from the startup screen and it'll load all the way up to where the desktop is showing but then dies in another 5-10 seconds. The machine is still running, though the amount of noise it produces drops off significantly after the monitor dies. (Still need to open the machine up and see if it's the GPU that stops spinning or if it's just quite.) | ||
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aeroH
United States1034 Posts
they're both PC2 5400, both 1.8v, the timings are different but shouldn't bios adjust it to run at the slowest setting? one is 4-4-4 while the one i just installed is 5-5-5 could it be that i'm mixing 512mb with 1g? when i put the two new sticks in by themselves my comp doesn't boot but with the old ones they do.. did i just get really unlucky and buy ram my mobo doesn't like? :/ or are they just DOA my motherboard is asus p5ld2 | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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exarchrum
United States491 Posts
Anyways I think I'm in the market to build myself a computer. I did some research and got a basic list so far. CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 445 $80 GPU: SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770$135 Motherboard: Foxcon Motherboard$45 RAM:G.Skill 4GB DDR3 1333 $81 I already have optical drives, a HD, and case. My HD is a Western Digital Cavier IDE 160gb drive from 2004, so its quite old but it has enough space for my needs. Would I be hurting myself by not upgrading to a new hard drive? My case is an ANTEC, i'm not really sure of the model. But the dimensions are roughly 15.5 in x 7.5 in x 16in. I'm guessing I'll need a new power supply as my old one is only 350W. Some suggestions here based on my other parts needs would be awesome. On Newegg my total for CPU, GPU, mobo, & RAM is $395 right. I'm trying to keep this under $500. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Edit: Another question: When would be a good time to buy? I can wait a few months. I noticed a lot of graphic card reviews dated around late september, early october of 2009 so is that a time when new lines come out? Thanks! | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873 Not a fan of the motherboard. I don't know how great the Foxconn brand is, but I'd be better off recommending you get a motherboard by MSI, Gigabyte, or Asus. Something from here hopefully. You could probably increase the performance of your load times if you get a new 7200 rpm hard drive, if yours isn't 7200 rpm. That'll cost around $40 for 250gb worth, or $70 for 1TB. You'll need about 450-550w for your power supply. Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, and Silverstone are all good, and less so OCZ and Cooler Master | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On August 27 2010 03:20 zekie wrote: was wondering how this computer looks for running SC2? CPU - AMD Athlon 64x2 Dual-Core 3800+ MOBO - A8N-SLI Premium UAYZ GPU - BFG GeForce 8600 GTS - GeForce 7950 GX2 PSU - OCZ GXS700 700W SLI Power Supply MEMORY - 2 x 1GB Kingston HyperX PC3200 KHX3200K2/2G - 2 x 512MB Generic PC3200 HDD - 120GB IDE WD1200JB-00G - 80GB IDE ST380011A OS - Windows XP or Windows 7 CASE - A-Top XBlade Gaming Mid-Tower ATX Case Are you posting what you have or what you're going to buy? | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On August 27 2010 09:22 exarchrum wrote: Awesome thread ! Anyways I think I'm in the market to build myself a computer. I did some research and got a basic list so far. CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 445 $80 GPU: SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770$135 Motherboard: Foxcon Motherboard$45 RAM:G.Skill 4GB DDR3 1333 $81 I already have optical drives, a HD, and case. My HD is a Western Digital Cavier IDE 160gb drive from 2004, so its quite old but it has enough space for my needs. Would I be hurting myself by not upgrading to a new hard drive? My case is an ANTEC, i'm not really sure of the model. But the dimensions are roughly 15.5 in x 7.5 in x 16in. I'm guessing I'll need a new power supply as my old one is only 350W. Some suggestions here based on my other parts needs would be awesome. On Newegg my total for CPU, GPU, mobo, & RAM is $395 right. I'm trying to keep this under $500. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Edit: Another question: When would be a good time to buy? I can wait a few months. I noticed a lot of graphic card reviews dated around late september, early october of 2009 so is that a time when new lines come out? Thanks! Hi, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.470418 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.457048 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431 $450, what do you think? See CPU review here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2923/6 Also, I would definitely recommend upgrading to a more modern drive. Not only is the SATA interface much faster than IDE, the drives themselves are much faster as well. Think about picking up a Western Digital Caviar Black if you can. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:05 a176 wrote: Hi, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.470418 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.457048 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431 $450, what do you think? See CPU review here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2923/6 Also, I would definitely recommend upgrading to a more modern drive. Not only is the SATA interface much faster than IDE, the drives themselves are much faster as well. Think about picking up a Western Digital Caviar Black if you can. The Athlon X3 is an outstanding chip, I would recommend against stepping back from it. At worst, it's a worthwhile upgrade for three cores. Even better, it could unlock to an X4, which is a steal at the price. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:05 a176 wrote: Hi, http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.470418 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.457048 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128431 $450, what do you think? See CPU review here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2923/6 Also, I would definitely recommend upgrading to a more modern drive. Not only is the SATA interface much faster than IDE, the drives themselves are much faster as well. Think about picking up a Western Digital Caviar Black if you can. I don't know why you recommended that CPU and RAM, both are terrible choices. The Athlon II X3 and G-Skill that he picked out are much much better. I would go with the Gigabyte motherboard. That foxcon one looks pretty bad. While the GTS 460 is awesome, the 5770 is just as good value for money, especially for a budget build. I would bump up to a 460 if you can afford it though. You should pick up a Spinpoint F3 rather than a caviar black, same performance and the spinpoint is cheaper. For a power supply, the OCZ Fatal1ty should be just fine. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19210 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442705 G.Skill 2X2GB 1333 DDR3 -- $81 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253 MSI 770 AM3 ATX (or that Gigabyte was good) -- $70 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130290 OCZ Fatal1ty 550W and Samsung Spinpoint F3 500GB -- $100, -20 MIR http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.466067 That's under $500 including PSU (though not a great one) and HDD. The dual core may be able to unlock. If not, it's still better than the Athlon II X2. | ||
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