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sungmny

United States13 Posts

September 10 2011 13:40 GMT

#11021

Every power supply should have a 4pin ATX connector or a 4+4pin ATX / EPS connector.

Turns out that the 8pin connector was actually 2 different 4pin connectors. So I plugged 1 of them in and now I get post but it's making a small short beep so I messed with the RAM (switching them around, changing which slot they're in) but still the same beep occurs. When I remove the RAM I only get 3 long beeps over and over. What should I do?

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

September 10 2011 13:42 GMT

#11022

On September 10 2011 22:40 sungmny wrote:

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Well, I'd suggest looking up the beep codes for your motherboard, personally. But the 3 long beeps after removing your RAM probably means "No RAM".

One beep should be a successful POST...

shtdisturbance

Canada613 Posts

September 10 2011 14:10 GMT

#11023

Hey, I have two computers, one is mine and the other is like a family computer for homework email etc. It is getting old maybe 4 years now, maybe more. Last week my HDD died and I did not back up the information because I just got this computer and was planning on doing it, well now. Is there any possible way to get the pictures and stuff off of it? A professional or something?

The other thing is since that computer is getting past it's time I was hoping to use some of it to make a new computer. What do you think is still reusable? It is an old machine. Is the PSU still good? The case is fine, the disc drive is good, monitor is good.

So with salvaging what I can the budget would be 500$ or less if possible. I live in Canada would like to buy from Canada computers.

My monitor is: 1680x1050

Used for homework email, basic stuff.

Upgrade whenever its needed. 2-4 years.

I plan on building it really soon.

I do need an OS. ( what would change if I did not need OS?)

Canada computer would be preferred.

Thanks a lot!

sungmny

United States13 Posts

September 10 2011 14:12 GMT

#11024

Alright got the computer running.
Thanks for the help

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

September 10 2011 14:17 GMT

#11025

Well, you can install an OS off either, and yes, you can run (some) OSes off USB, although I'd think if you wanted to do anything serious that way, you'd want USB 3.

But yeah, you can install via USB.

buddylee

United States128 Posts

September 10 2011 14:28 GMT

#11026

On September 10 2011 10:58 buddylee wrote:

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Here's a build using the pcpartpicker website to find the best prices, if you don't mind buying from a few different sites because newegg doesn't pricematch (microcenter might, but I don't think they would price match to be even with tax, someone please correct me if I'm wrong)
Things to note: Buy the i5-2400 at microcenter, it's $150. The promocode for the HDD is expired, not sure why it's still coming up.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1apd

i5-2400 $150 at microcenter
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354590

CPU: Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock H61M/U3S3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 450W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($50.94 @ Wolf Camera)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AB DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Acer G215HVAbd 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $754.86
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2011-09-09 13:37 EDT-0400)

I got one recommendation so far...looking for a couple more.

sungmny

United States13 Posts

September 10 2011 15:07 GMT

#11027

Oh just one more thing. I can't seem to have working internet through the ethernet cable, does that mean the motherboard doesn't have a connection for that or do I need to download a driver or something?

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

September 10 2011 15:18 GMT

#11028

On September 10 2011 23:28 buddylee wrote:

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I got one recommendation so far...looking for a couple more.

Yeah that looks fine. If you don't want to get the power supply at a different place, an Antec Earthwatts Green 380D (no power cord included), Corsair CX430 V2, or maybe Rosewill Green Series 430W from newegg would be okay. Those are a bit worse than the XFX unit though, but you won't be needing nearly that much power, or a second PCIe connector anyway--at least for that build.

On September 11 2011 00:07 sungmny wrote:
Oh just one more thing. I can't seem to have working internet through the ethernet cable, does that mean the motherboard doesn't have a connection for that or do I need to download a driver or something?

Check the motherboard box for a driver CD. Install the Ethernet drivers from that CD. You can get pretty much everything else online in terms of drivers.

nam nam

Sweden4672 Posts

September 10 2011 16:39 GMT

#11029

Definitely sounds like a driver issue. If you don't have the installation cd go to your motherboards home page and you'll most likely be able to download all drivers. Remember to download the latest drivers for you graphics card as well when we are talking drivers.

buddylee

United States128 Posts

September 10 2011 19:46 GMT

#11030

On September 10 2011 02:39 Molybdenum wrote:

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What about a case? What are some good ones that are large enough and what about coolers?

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

September 10 2011 19:51 GMT

#11031

The cooler that comes with the i5-2400 is good enough for keeping temperatures reasonable if you're not overclocking, which you can't with that setup. If you're looking for something with ultra-low noise, then that's a different matter. But then you wouldn't want the graphics card either, and so on.

If you just want a reasonably-sturdy case that's definitely large enough (almost every mATX case would be large enough), Antec 300 is going for $50 before $15 MIR:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

It's missing a few modern conveniences, but that's not a big deal unless you're allergic to zip ties or need to tinker around inside it nonstop.

JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

September 10 2011 19:52 GMT

#11032

On September 11 2011 04:51 Myrmidon wrote:
The cooler that comes with the i5-2400 is good enough for keeping temperatures reasonable if you're not overclocking, which you can't with that setup. If you're looking for something with ultra-low noise, then that's a different matter. But then you wouldn't want the graphics card either, and so on.

If you just want a reasonably-sturdy case that's definitely large enough (almost every mATX case would be large enough), Antec 300 is going for $50 before $15 MIR:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

It's missing a few modern conveniences, but that's not a big deal unless you're allergic to zip ties or need to tinker around inside it nonstop.

Although if people are willing to pay a bit more, the Corsair Carbide 400R is looking like a sexy option at $100, all things considered.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4690/corsair-carbide-400r-succeeding-in-reverse

Either needs some extra build love or a bit more design work for higher end builds, but it's looking like a decent option. Particularly if you could snipe a sale on it.

buddylee

United States128 Posts

September 10 2011 20:01 GMT

#11033

thx Myrmidon and JingleHell

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

September 10 2011 20:48 GMT

#11034

On September 10 2011 21:06 Garnier wrote:

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On September 10 2011 20:57 Bambipwnsu wrote:
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On September 10 2011 20:49 Garnier wrote:
I'm probably the definition of the term "Technical Noob", so I basically need help for everything! This is my first time building a PC!

I've played Diablo II since I can remember and I recently purchased SC2, unfortunetaly my system can't even play it in-game and barely loads the menus.

What is your budget?
The more saved the better but my range is $1000 to $1500 (without shipping costs). I want an overall PC that can last me a few years and be able for my needs below.

What is your resolution?
I plan on using dual monitors that are 1920x1080 or 1020 which I have an ideal product below.

What are you using it for?
First priority is gaming for future game Diablo III and Starcraft II. I also use Photoshop CS5 Extended.

What is your upgrade cycle?
Overall I plan to use this computer for a few years, 5+ if this is realistic? I like to be conservative with my money.

When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible, would ultimately like between September 16-23(hopefully). By the end of September at the latest.

Do you plan on overclocking?
I'm not sure, if it's suggested for my needs provided above then an absolute yes. If not needed, no.

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes, I am wanting to use Windows 7 which I'll have to purchase as well.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I'm not sure with this too, if it's needed for my needs, an absolute yes. If not needed, no.

Where are you buying your parts from?
NXIC.com

I think this is a good start but Im not sure...

Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=45271 ($119.98)

2x ASUS VW246H 24IN Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920X1080 20000:1 2MS VGA DVI HDMI Speakers
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=39131 ($413.44 for both)

Antec Nine Hundred Mid Tower Gamer Case 900 ATX 9 Drive Bay No PS TOP USB2.0 1394 Audio
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=21123 ($119.99)

Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962 ($238.98)

Thanks!

Why are you posting these parts when I already listed the same parts on the same site but cheaper in your thread T_____________T?

Contacted you via PM, I don't know how... but I missed your post.

Would anyone suggest that is the best setup I could use!?

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The build that was recommended by Bambipwnsu totals to about $1025 without including the mouse and without having a DVD burner.

My recommended configuration comes to $1033 before mail in rebates.

The Antec Nine Hundred is a shit case by today's standards and if you like the aesthetics of it than the Antec Nine Hundred Two V3 which is a bit better than the original Nine Hundred can be had for the same price. If you don't care about the case aesthetics than I believe there are much better less expensive options such as the Coolermaster HAF 912, Bitfenix Shinobi, Corrsair Carbide Series 400R, Fractal Design Define R3, etc.

You don't need SLI to run games at 1080p on reasonably high settings so you would not need the UD4 motherboard that was recommended even though the G43 is also capable of SLI, it's a much less expensive board. Even though the Antec Earthwatts 650 for $50 is a decent deal, this much power is not necessary for a single GPU configuration. Opting for a lower wattage power supply that is less expensive and slightly higher quality is the better option.

Intel Core i5 2500k & MSI P67 G43 @ $325 ($305 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60177&promoid=1371

MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II @ $240 ($220 after mail in rebate, $200 after gift card) (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58303&promoid=1371
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Don't remember if pricematching voids promotional offers

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $38 ($33 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $90 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12850SW2113 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271

Antec Nine Hundred Two V3 @ $100 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10370AC9501 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58597

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $24 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=1946101809P )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $49 (with promo code COLLEGETOUR11 )
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767

XFX Core Edition 450 @ $50 ($30 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&promoid=1371

Crucial M4 64gb @ $100 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60444

DVD Burner @ $17
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667&promoid=1371

kunstderfugue

Mexico375 Posts

September 10 2011 21:16 GMT

#11035

I have a couple of questions:

1) Is the 9800gt a good video card for gaming? (1024x768, don't need to be high settings)
This cards are very common and cheap in mexico (compared to other parts which are overpriced because of importation taxes and such). If not, is there a slightly better AMD card i could try and get?

2) Which motherboard should i choose? I haven't decided for a case or PSU, but i will probably get a Core i3 2100 as CPU and 4GB of RAM (Is DDR3 1333 the must-go?). I'll look for it in the stores there are around the city.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

September 10 2011 21:24 GMT

#11036

Yes the 9800GT is still a good card for such a low resolution.

If you're getting a core i3 2100 than your choices should be between a H61 or H67. H67 provides SATA 6Gbps (used mainly for SSDs) where as the H61 does not. Yes, you would want 1333MHz DDR3.

Good power supplies for this configuration include but not limited to the Antec Earthwatts 380D and Corsair CX430 V2.

mav451

United States1596 Posts

September 10 2011 21:36 GMT

#11037

Didn't think this would warrant a new thread, especially with how regional it is, but there is a 20% off GPU coupon for MC. Figured Americans reading this thread might wanna take advantage of it

*I just used it today for a GTX 580 - which brought it down to $343 before tax so yes, it works.

Source is wholeeo @ OCN:
http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/1113075-micro-center-20-off-various-pc.html

kunstderfugue

Mexico375 Posts

September 10 2011 21:39 GMT

#11038

On September 11 2011 06:24 skyR wrote:
Yes the 9800GT is still a good card for such a low resolution.

If you're getting a core i3 2100 than your choices should be between a H61 or H67. H67 provides SATA 6Gbps (used mainly for SSDs) where as the H61 does not. Yes, you would want 1333MHz DDR3.

Good power supplies for this configuration include but not limited to the Antec Earthwatts 380D and Corsair CX430 V2.

Ok thanks for the advice.

epikAnglory

United States1120 Posts

September 10 2011 23:31 GMT

#11039

http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-17-553-009-_-09102011_3
I was wondering is this a good deal? My friend found this and asked me to buy it, the price and reviews look good for today, but is this brand reliable?

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

September 10 2011 23:50 GMT

#11040

Cougar is HEC/Compucase's higher-end brand. However, a lot of the units still have issues with poor +5V and +3.3V performance, like excessive ripple and often not hot voltage regulation. They range from kinda below average to very good.

I guess this one is one of the bad ones:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cougar-A-Series-560-W-Power-Supply-Review/1332

And anyway, $60 for a 560W HEC unit is like...not much of a shocker. I mean, Seasonic S12II Bronze 520W is going for $60.

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