EPTSo when I turn on my computer, nothing appears on the screen. It's just completely black, is this because I have no OS or is it maybe because connected something wrong?
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sungmny
United States13 Posts
So when I turn on my computer, nothing appears on the screen. It's just completely black, is this because I have no OS or is it maybe because connected something wrong? | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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TrivialRiot
United States27 Posts
What is your budget? $1000-$1500, I want to pc to last 5 years + (I think this is realistic?) What is your resolution? 1680x1050 maybe. 23" monitor but I might game at 1280x1024 right now because my comp sucks, but that might change ya know? What are you using it for? I plan to use it to game hardcore... SC2, DOTA 2. I want it to be able to play Battlefield 3 or whatever the newest equivalent will be in 2-3 years, I feel like meeting the specs for FPS that haven't come out yet will be the biggest challenge/most expensive part. Incidentally I want to be able to stream and video record draft caps with decent sound but I have no experience with camstudio or any of that since none of it works(well) on my current PC. What is your upgrade cycle? 5 years? apparently this is a really long time, but it comes from being financially conservative I guess. I guess it may be unrealistic considering the current rate of technological advances.. but with the right amount of attention things tend to last a long time. When do you plan on building it? Now. I have already stalled my prerequisite 6mo-1 year on a large purchase to mull over how I will execute and how much I'm actually willing to spend on something I absolutely do not need under any circumstances. Do you plan on overclocking? No. I don't think I'll need to do that to achieve the performance I want and would like to maintain that performance for as long as possible. Do you need an Operating System? Yes? How would I get by without one(yarr...)? I'm going to go with windows 7 since it will be industry standard for our business coming up soon and it has the least compatibility issues. I would also like to dual boot into linux so I can learn to play with linux unix and learn some programming but I'm not positive on how that changes my hardware needs or if the linux boot would be actually useful if I actually had it. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Yes. Where are you buying your parts from? Houston TX. Searching out a barcraft soon. Right now my #1 choice based on recommendations is Newegg but I haven't actually registered there yet. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
And why do people not overclock with multi-GPU configurations? I don't understand the philosophy behind this... do people honestly think that the CPU won't be bottlenecking games that are CPU bound? | ||
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TrivialRiot
United States27 Posts
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sungmny
United States13 Posts
Did you connect the pins to your gpu from the psu? Yes I assume the computer is running? Are you connecting the monitor to the motherboard or gpu? Yes everything seems to be working fine, all the systems are running, fans are on, hard drive is slightly vibrating. I tried connecting the monitor to the motherboard and gpu and I also connected it to another computer so it works fine. | ||
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leser
Croatia239 Posts
these things are set in stone pretty much: i5 2500K ~300$ ASRock fatal1ty P67 Professional mobo ~180$ DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair, 1600Hz, 8-8-8-24, CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 ~110$ DELL U2311H ~ 300$ i already own everything else i need (a decent case, hard drives, dvd-r etc.), but I don't know what kind of PSU I need (don't want to spend too much money on buying a PSU I don't really need), and can't decide on the graphics card. I'm thinking of buying one from the next list 6850 (200$) 6870 (250$) GTX 560 (250$) GTX 560 Ti (300$) I'd naturally love to get the 560 Ti, but seeing as I don't play that many games anymore I'm not sure that the extra 50$ or 100$ if I decide to get the 6850 is worth it. I would like the hardware I buy to last me quite some time, though. As far as the PSU is concerned, I was thinking of getting the CORSAIR 650W TX Series (110$), but I'm not sure if I am overshooting it, seeing that I will use only 2 HDD's, a DVD burner and a single gfx card setup. I will probably be overclocking in the future though. The prices, unfortunately, are what they are and they're the cheapest I could find where I'm from. with these prices and the most expensive gfx card i'll probably have around 50$ remaining, so i'm looking for some advice to maybe cut some corners and squeeze in a 60gig SSD or something, but I'm not sure if giving up a 560 Ti for an SSD will net me a gain or a loss globally. thanks guys <3 | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On September 10 2011 07:40 TrivialRiot wrote: Will anyone please help me find an optimal system? I have never built a PC before, mostly because I've never actually paid for one. However, my PC lags with anything over 100 food in SC2 right now and it's preventing me from getting past silver, so time for an upgrade. What is your budget? $1000-$1500, I want to pc to last 5 years + (I think this is realistic?) What is your resolution? 1680x1050 maybe. 23" monitor but I might game at 1280x1024 right now because my comp sucks, but that might change ya know? What are you using it for? I plan to use it to game hardcore... SC2, DOTA 2. I want it to be able to play Battlefield 3 or whatever the newest equivalent will be in 2-3 years, I feel like meeting the specs for FPS that haven't come out yet will be the biggest challenge/most expensive part. Incidentally I want to be able to stream and video record draft caps with decent sound but I have no experience with camstudio or any of that since none of it works(well) on my current PC. What is your upgrade cycle? 5 years? apparently this is a really long time, but it comes from being financially conservative I guess. I guess it may be unrealistic considering the current rate of technological advances.. but with the right amount of attention things tend to last a long time. When do you plan on building it? Now. I have already stalled my prerequisite 6mo-1 year on a large purchase to mull over how I will execute and how much I'm actually willing to spend on something I absolutely do not need under any circumstances. Do you plan on overclocking? No. I don't think I'll need to do that to achieve the performance I want and would like to maintain that performance for as long as possible. Do you need an Operating System? Yes? How would I get by without one(yarr...)? I'm going to go with windows 7 since it will be industry standard for our business coming up soon and it has the least compatibility issues. I would also like to dual boot into linux so I can learn to play with linux unix and learn some programming but I'm not positive on how that changes my hardware needs or if the linux boot would be actually useful if I actually had it. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Yes. Where are you buying your parts from? Houston TX. Searching out a barcraft soon. Right now my #1 choice based on recommendations is Newegg but I haven't actually registered there yet. I think what SkyR meant to say is that SLI is overkill for anything but the very top resolutions. It's also overkill for 1920x1080 for almost everyone. The standard reminder to the uninitiated is that even if you want your computer to last 5 years, the right (read: cheap) thing to do is to get a high end single card now and upgrade just the graphics card later, which will end up being cheaper and on average better than getting SLI now when you can only potentially need it later. FYI, from reviewing this thread it seems that currently a 560Ti (not just a 560) is the graphics card considered to be the right price for most-games-almost-maxed at 1920x1080 and will be overkill that will last a long time for your current resolution. Stepping up is a 6950 if you feel the need to spend and maybe get a new monitor and like all-maxed stuff, stepping down is a 6850/6870 or other cards thereabouts (I'm not the expert here, just trying to give you a base level of expectation). Also, I'm sure SkyR meant to inform you that SLI is more technically demanding than overclocking and even when it is useful (see above), you'll be in situations where a hot-shot overclocked processor will also make a big difference in gaming performance. Individual games demand more or less from a CPU or GPU. Given your generic requirements and budget, I'd recommend looking at getting a single good graphics card with an eye to a future upgrade to 1920x1080 (or if you like your current monitor, a cheaper graphics card now so that you can upgrade both monitor and card 2-3 years later when GPUs are more advanced). Processor wise, look to learn to overclock an i5-2500K if you want performance to stay at a high level for some years. Failing that, look to an i5-2XXX for good performance now that will still last who knows how long. As for specific builds, I almost feel like I should post one so it can be corrected for you, but I'm already reaching the limits of my expertise. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On September 10 2011 08:07 leser wrote:+ Show Spoiler + hey guys, i'm expecting some money soon and I need to upgrade. these things are set in stone pretty much: i5 2500K ~300$ ASRock fatal1ty P67 Professional mobo ~180$ DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair, 1600Hz, 8-8-8-24, CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8 ~110$ DELL U2311H ~ 300$ i already own everything else i need (a decent case, hard drives, dvd-r etc.), but I don't know what kind of PSU I need (don't want to spend too much money on buying a PSU I don't really need), and can't decide on the graphics card. I'm thinking of buying one from the next list 6850 (200$) 6870 (250$) GTX 560 (250$) GTX 560 Ti (300$) I'd naturally love to get the 560 Ti, but seeing as I don't play that many games anymore I'm not sure that the extra 50$ or 100$ if I decide to get the 6850 is worth it. I would like the hardware I buy to last me quite some time, though. As far as the PSU is concerned, I was thinking of getting the CORSAIR 650W TX Series (110$), but I'm not sure if I am overshooting it, seeing that I will use only 2 HDD's, a DVD burner and a single gfx card setup. I will probably be overclocking in the future though. The prices, unfortunately, are what they are and they're the cheapest I could find where I'm from. with these prices and the most expensive gfx card i'll probably have around 50$ remaining, so i'm looking for some advice to maybe cut some corners and squeeze in a 60gig SSD or something, but I'm not sure if giving up a 560 Ti for an SSD will net me a gain or a loss globally. thanks guys <3 Why are those components set in stone? Higher frequency memory and tighter timings offer negligible gains in gaming performance. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3 http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 Why waste money on a 1600MHz cas8 kit when you can just get the less expensive 1333MHz cas9 kit and spend the money you saved on the SSD or a better graphics card? Why are you getting a flagship board if you can't afford an SSD? Shrug. Unless you plan on doing some absurd overclock than you do not need a flagship board. A lower-end board such as the Asrock P67 Pro3 would be capable of achieving a ~4.5GHz overclock. The Corsair TX650 V2 is enough for an overclocked 2500k and SLI GTX 560 Ti configuration so ya you are overshooting there if you don't plan on doing SLI. There are four variants of the Corsair TX series so make sure you are getting the V2 variant. A ~500w power supply is more than capable of handling an overclocked 2500k single GTX 560 Ti configuration. | ||
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leser
Croatia239 Posts
lots of love <3 | ||
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LazyMacro
976 Posts
On September 10 2011 08:29 leser wrote: thanks a bunch for the reply, I'm not following hardware like I used to, and i'm rusty as hell <3 lots of love <3 About five weeks ago I didn't even know what the current CPUs were. I've learned a lot from this thread alone, lol. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On September 10 2011 07:57 sungmny wrote: Yes Yes everything seems to be working fine, all the systems are running, fans are on, hard drive is slightly vibrating. I tried connecting the monitor to the motherboard and gpu and I also connected it to another computer so it works fine. No beepcodes or something? You could try starting the computer and then connecting the monitor. This is usually for when you have an operating system installed though. Have you tried different ports (vga, dvi etc)? Otherwise my only suggestion is to double check every wire. Wish I could be more helpful. | ||
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xyOr
United States28 Posts
Intel Core i5 2300 @ $175 (w/ promo code HARDOCPX831B, ends 9/6) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115076 Asrock H61M-VS @ $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $160 ($130 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150551 GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 (w/ promo code EMCKAKJ22, ends 9/7) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $50 (w/ promo code EMCKBGK32, ends 9/5) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Corsair CX430 V2 @ $45 ($25 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 Xigmatek Asgard II @ $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004 DVD Burner @ $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216 TOTAL: $574 before MIR Thanks in advance! | ||
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sungmny
United States13 Posts
Firstly I might need some sort of connection to my hard drive but I don't know what I need I don't have the thing at the left connected, I have both SATA at the right connected. I also don't have my ATX 12V Power Connector (ATX12V1) on my mobo connected and I think I may need some sort of adapter? I get absolutely nothing when I start my computer, no beeps or post. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The HDD only has SATA power and SATA data. The left is a jumper which is not a connection. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 10 2011 10:31 xyOr wrote: Hey guys, my budget increased to $706, and wondering if that could change my current build: + Show Spoiler + Intel Core i5 2300 @ $175 (w/ promo code HARDOCPX831B, ends 9/6) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115076 Asrock H61M-VS @ $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 XFX Radeon HD6850 @ $160 ($130 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150551 GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $40 (w/ promo code EMCKAKJ22, ends 9/7) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $50 (w/ promo code EMCKBGK32, ends 9/5) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Corsair CX430 V2 @ $45 ($25 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 Xigmatek Asgard II @ $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811815004 DVD Burner @ $19 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136216 TOTAL: $574 before MIR Thanks in advance! I'd suggest spending up a bit on the case for better cable management and maybe more than one fan for starters. Then slap in a 64GB Crucial M4 SSD maybe, should be ~$110-120. You've already got a pretty fair configuration, those two changes would be convenience heavy features. Mind you, you could spend elsewhere, and get a bit more raw horsepower, but that's already a fairly solid rig, so unless you specifically need more elsewhere, the ease of use stuff is a solid bet. SSD makes things load way faster, including OS, and slow stuff like office software and acrobat reader, and a better case is just better to build in, better to add too, more likely to not end up in the trash can next time you build, and provides better airflow. | ||
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buddylee
United States128 Posts
On September 10 2011 02:39 Molybdenum wrote: Here's a build using the pcpartpicker website to find the best prices, if you don't mind buying from a few different sites because newegg doesn't pricematch (microcenter might, but I don't think they would price match to be even with tax, someone please correct me if I'm wrong) Things to note: Buy the i5-2400 at microcenter, it's $150. The promocode for the HDD is expired, not sure why it's still coming up. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1apd i5-2400 $150 at microcenter http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354590 CPU: Intel Core i5-2400 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter) Motherboard: ASRock H61M/U3S3 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg) Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: XFX 450W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($50.94 @ Wolf Camera) Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222AB DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg) Monitor: Acer G215HVAbd 21.5" Monitor ($129.99 @ Newegg) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg) Total: $754.86 (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.) (Generated 2011-09-09 13:37 EDT-0400) Thanks man...is that pretty much everything? I should be able to stream if i wanted to? | ||
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Omega1Kill
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I can spend a maximum of $1,500. What is your resolution? 1920x1080 (I really want to do dual monitors for this build, just saying) What are you using it for? My main goal for using the computer is for a LOT of gaming and streaming. Nothing beyond that. What is your upgrade cycle? My upgrade cycle is most likely going to be more than 2 years. I am going to say roughly 4 - 5 years will be my upgrade cycle. When do you plan on building it? I am going to build it in like, by the end of this year. I'm sorry that that is really broad. A more specific answer would be... By the start of next month or the middle of next month (October). Do you plan on overclocking? No Do you need an Operating System? I will most likely need to. (Windows 7) Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I am not really sure exactly if i will benefit from them? The main thing I want to be able to do is have a good enough graphics card to support dual monitors. Where are you buying your parts from? I will be using Newegg to buy the parts. I already have chosen the case I want (NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case). If I need to add more info, please tell me so. I think this is enough. Thanks :D | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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