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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
HansMoleman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
September 11 2011 00:29 GMT
#11041
My Nvega 780i SLI mobo recently shat out on me, and i was wondering if anyone had any recommendations as to a cheap substitute for the time being. I was thinking about just buying the same one for 110 brand new, but then i saw some LGA 1155 mobos that went for 70ish. The SLi is not that important for me because i currently only have one video card.
"Knowledge is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learn from schooling" -Albert Einstien
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 00:34:57
September 11 2011 00:33 GMT
#11042
On September 11 2011 09:29 HansMoleman wrote:
My Nvega 780i SLI mobo recently shat out on me, and i was wondering if anyone had any recommendations as to a cheap substitute for the time being. I was thinking about just buying the same one for 110 brand new, but then i saw some LGA 1155 mobos that went for 70ish. The SLi is not that important for me because i currently only have one video card.


Do you have an 1155 socket CPU sitting around to stick in there? That "LGA 1155" is the CPU socket, and it isn't compatible with, say, an LGA 775 CPU, which is what goes in 780i mobos.

That said, LGA 1155 CPUs blow 775 out of the water, all around, hands down. But that upgrade requires a minimum of CPU/Mobo, and generally RAM, as well.
HansMoleman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
September 11 2011 01:59 GMT
#11043
On September 11 2011 09:33 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 09:29 HansMoleman wrote:
My Nvega 780i SLI mobo recently shat out on me, and i was wondering if anyone had any recommendations as to a cheap substitute for the time being. I was thinking about just buying the same one for 110 brand new, but then i saw some LGA 1155 mobos that went for 70ish. The SLi is not that important for me because i currently only have one video card.


Do you have an 1155 socket CPU sitting around to stick in there? That "LGA 1155" is the CPU socket, and it isn't compatible with, say, an LGA 775 CPU, which is what goes in 780i mobos.

That said, LGA 1155 CPUs blow 775 out of the water, all around, hands down. But that upgrade requires a minimum of CPU/Mobo, and generally RAM, as well.


Ive got a core 2 quad q9400 set at 775. If i were to upgrade I'd need to nearly gut out my computer, so im just looking for a cheap replacement for now, then build a whole new pc in about a years time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130242
Here is the mobo im thinking of buying, thoughts?
"Knowledge is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learn from schooling" -Albert Einstien
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 03:40:38
September 11 2011 03:37 GMT
#11044
On September 11 2011 10:59 HansMoleman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 09:33 JingleHell wrote:
On September 11 2011 09:29 HansMoleman wrote:
My Nvega 780i SLI mobo recently shat out on me, and i was wondering if anyone had any recommendations as to a cheap substitute for the time being. I was thinking about just buying the same one for 110 brand new, but then i saw some LGA 1155 mobos that went for 70ish. The SLi is not that important for me because i currently only have one video card.


Do you have an 1155 socket CPU sitting around to stick in there? That "LGA 1155" is the CPU socket, and it isn't compatible with, say, an LGA 775 CPU, which is what goes in 780i mobos.

That said, LGA 1155 CPUs blow 775 out of the water, all around, hands down. But that upgrade requires a minimum of CPU/Mobo, and generally RAM, as well.


Ive got a core 2 quad q9400 set at 775. If i were to upgrade I'd need to nearly gut out my computer, so im just looking for a cheap replacement for now, then build a whole new pc in about a years time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130242
Here is the mobo im thinking of buying, thoughts?


It's pretty light in the pants, but if you aren't planning any OC or anything, and you can find a spec sheet for it somewhere to verify it can handle a q9400, I don't see anything particularly horrendous about it, if you don't need any features besides turning on.

But then, my meds are kicking in, so I could be missing something.
aax5
Profile Joined August 2011
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 05:49:30
September 11 2011 05:45 GMT
#11045
Prices and links are what I have found to be the best price. Be sure to give me a better price if you can.

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge $149.99 On sale.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354590

8GB RAM $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333
500-650 WATT Power Supply $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Radeon 1GB 6950 $240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385

1 TB Hard Drive $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Cooler Master Basic $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215&Tpk=cooler master basic

H67 Motherboard $65-75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186211

This is about 875-900 bucks with the OS and disk drive.

I have a 1k budget. Is it worth spending the additional money to overclock with a 2500k? Right now, the 2500k is $180 on sale from microcenter.

Also, do you think that saving 40-50 bucks on the processor is going to be the best deal till December. It's a good 25% off the price, but I'm worried I'll be undercut during black friday. I'm trying to snipe a few good deals to bring my price down.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
September 11 2011 05:56 GMT
#11046
On September 11 2011 12:37 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 10:59 HansMoleman wrote:
On September 11 2011 09:33 JingleHell wrote:
On September 11 2011 09:29 HansMoleman wrote:
My Nvega 780i SLI mobo recently shat out on me, and i was wondering if anyone had any recommendations as to a cheap substitute for the time being. I was thinking about just buying the same one for 110 brand new, but then i saw some LGA 1155 mobos that went for 70ish. The SLi is not that important for me because i currently only have one video card.


Do you have an 1155 socket CPU sitting around to stick in there? That "LGA 1155" is the CPU socket, and it isn't compatible with, say, an LGA 775 CPU, which is what goes in 780i mobos.

That said, LGA 1155 CPUs blow 775 out of the water, all around, hands down. But that upgrade requires a minimum of CPU/Mobo, and generally RAM, as well.


Ive got a core 2 quad q9400 set at 775. If i were to upgrade I'd need to nearly gut out my computer, so im just looking for a cheap replacement for now, then build a whole new pc in about a years time.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130242
Here is the mobo im thinking of buying, thoughts?


It's pretty light in the pants, but if you aren't planning any OC or anything, and you can find a spec sheet for it somewhere to verify it can handle a q9400, I don't see anything particularly horrendous about it, if you don't need any features besides turning on.

But then, my meds are kicking in, so I could be missing something.


Was a bit bored so I looked it up. The q9400 is supported.
http://se.msi.com/product/mb/G41M4-F.html#/?div=CPUSupport
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 11 2011 05:57 GMT
#11047
On September 11 2011 14:45 aax5 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Prices and links are what I have found to be the best price. Be sure to give me a better price if you can.

Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge $149.99 On sale.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354590

8GB RAM $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333
500-650 WATT Power Supply $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Radeon 1GB 6950 $240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385

1 TB Hard Drive $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Cooler Master Basic $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215&Tpk=cooler master basic

H67 Motherboard $65-75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186211

This is about 875-900 bucks with the OS and disk drive.

I have a 1k budget. Is it worth spending the additional money to overclock with a 2500k? Right now, the 2500k is $180 on sale from microcenter.

Also, do you think that saving 40-50 bucks on the processor is going to be the best deal till December. It's a good 25% off the price, but I'm worried I'll be undercut during black friday. I'm trying to snipe a few good deals to bring my price down.


The 2500k has been $180 at Microcenter since like forever. It's your choice to wait or not but you are definitely going to get undercut regardless of when you purchase because pricing isn't static or change in a predictable pattern.
aax5
Profile Joined August 2011
United States54 Posts
September 11 2011 06:05 GMT
#11048
If it's going to stay like that, I'll wait it out. Most likely it'll continue, and I can use that as a base price.

Can you answer my question about overclocking? Is it worth it to get a 2500k and accessories to overclock in performance?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 11 2011 06:06 GMT
#11049
Whether overclocking is worth it is subjective. Decide for yourself: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x.html If you want my answer than my answer is going to be yes.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 06:08:18
September 11 2011 06:07 GMT
#11050
On September 11 2011 15:05 aax5 wrote:
If it's going to stay like that, I'll wait it out. Most likely it'll continue, and I can use that as a base price.

Can you answer my question about overclocking? Is it worth it to get a 2500k and accessories to overclock in performance?

Price difference total is like $50-90 difference assuming you count a lower priced motherboard, HSF, and a non-K version/i5 2300/i5 2400. It is kind of fun, I mean it usually won't make that big of a difference unless you render HD videos or stream.

It won't rip you off, but won't make a huge difference either unless you spend a lot more money on an incredible HSF.
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 11 2011 06:11 GMT
#11051
Sorry but you don't need a NH-D14 or Silver Arrow to achieve an incredible overclocks. I'm pretty sure many people run at close to 5Ghz with a $30 heatsink such as the Hyper 212+. This is Sandybridge we're talking about, not Bloomfield.
aax5
Profile Joined August 2011
United States54 Posts
September 11 2011 06:25 GMT
#11052
Will that make a good difference for the performance for games? I don't plan on uploading videos.
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 06:37:39
September 11 2011 06:26 GMT
#11053
@aax5

in microcenter are available this cupons is you buy after the 18 and you can easy overclock
http://www.overclock.net/online-deals/1113075-micro-center-20-off-various-pc.html
so let see

Intel core i5 2500K
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589 $180

ASRock P67 PRO3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 $120 (10MIR)

Cooler Maste Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0315397 $24

GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6950 1GB with 20%off cupon
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0369115#rebate $215 (20MIR)

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 $60

Antec High Current Gamer Series 620W with 20%off cupon
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0348767 $52 (15MIR)

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1333 with 20%off cupon
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0360526 $43

Cooler Master HAF912 with 20%off cupon
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0343331 $45

Samsung 22x DVD/RW Burner
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0293049 $18

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361170 $88

total $845


and you can add a ssd for $93
Crucial M4 SSD 64gb
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0364541
aax5
Profile Joined August 2011
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 06:43:16
September 11 2011 06:34 GMT
#11054
Thanks a lot for the support so far. Hopefully I can come here again when I build my computer. (I'm relatively new to this whole business.)

I found the coupon code already, since I lurk this thread for tips, but thank you for that.

This'll be my new list for parts right now. I plan on buying most of the stuff now with the coupon, but I will wait for anything that is not currently discounted. I have a lot of time before I plan on building it completely.

buddylee
Profile Joined June 2011
United States128 Posts
September 11 2011 16:34 GMT
#11055
Ok...I just updated my build. What do you guys think?

motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0365088

cpu
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354590

case
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0361307

video card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150516

hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136770

power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231180

monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236051

cd/dvd burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

wireless adapter
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 11 2011 16:45 GMT
#11056
Why are you paying extra for 1600MHz cas8 memory when you can spend that extra on getting a 6870 instead for a bigger gain in performance??? 2x2gb kits seem to have went up in price but still it's wasted money.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377

A 6870 is currently $170 atm: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 16:51:47
September 11 2011 16:50 GMT
#11057
I'm not so sure about $75 for a H61 motherboard with those kinds of features. AsRock H61M/U3S3 costs $70 on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Why do you keep listing an HD 6850 for $170 (that's loud, which seems out of line with the case choice?) when you can get a better HD 6850 for $160 or an HD 6870 for $175?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 ($140 AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 ($155 AMIR)

Some people might be hating on the NZXT H2, but for the kind of build you're using, the relatively bad (but not atrocious) cooling is not a problem. Certainly with things on idle it will be much quieter than most cases. On full load with an HD 6850, it doesn't take that much to cool one of them, so it should be still decent.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
September 11 2011 17:25 GMT
#11058
A Biostar H61 motherboard is pretty good. I used it for my father's computer and there are no problems at all with it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138313
Only $49 as well.
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 17:53:49
September 11 2011 17:52 GMT
#11059
If I use Charter 12 MBPS internet: http://www.charter.com/internet
Is that enough for the average StarCraft 2 gamer?

I am only getting 4 MBPS download speed, but I think that is due to a slow adapter (which I am switching to LAN next Saturday).
[image loading]
So I am assuming if I get Ethernet I will be close to 12 MBPS.

Should I upgrade to 18 MBPS for $10 more a month (and an offer for Charter is free TV HBOCinemax Channels for one year if you upgrade, though we barely watch movies).
EDIT: I tested again and got 6 MBPS download.
710+ Posts with a Probe Icon =D
psp219
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States315 Posts
September 11 2011 18:00 GMT
#11060
What is your budget?

600-700

What is your resolution?

1920x1080
What are you using it for?

Most Gaming + Streaming

What is your upgrade cycle?

4 years

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

No
Do you need an Operating System?

No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No

Where are you buying your parts from?

Anywhere online for cheap. Maybe Newegg
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