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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 11 2011 18:05 GMT
#11061
On September 12 2011 02:52 epikAnglory wrote:
If I use Charter 12 MBPS internet: http://www.charter.com/internet
Is that enough for the average StarCraft 2 gamer?

I am only getting 4 MBPS download speed, but I think that is due to a slow adapter (which I am switching to LAN next Saturday).
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So I am assuming if I get Ethernet I will be close to 12 MBPS.

Should I upgrade to 18 MBPS for $10 more a month (and an offer for Charter is free TV HBOCinemax Channels for one year if you upgrade, though we barely watch movies).
EDIT: I tested again and got 6 MBPS download.


Are you using a USB or wireless adapter because you aren't describing your problem clearly... A LAN is a local access network, it is not ethernet... Switching to LAN has absolutely nothing to do with your WAN connection speed.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
September 11 2011 18:07 GMT
#11062
I mean switching from a USB Wifi adapter to a wired connection. I don't know the terms so well =[
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CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 18:31:13
September 11 2011 18:29 GMT
#11063
@psp219
here a build for 584 you can change the case that you want buy a better card (gtx 560 ti or hd 6950) but you need to upgrade your power supply to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027


Intel Core i5-2400 and CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723633 $221
ASRock H61M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 $55
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 $160 (20MIR)
CORSAIR Builder Series 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 $45 (15MIR)
LITE-ON DVD Burner and Seagate Barracuda 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696126 $73
Sentey Classic Series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811322034 $30

total 584
psp219
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States315 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 18:34:14
September 11 2011 18:33 GMT
#11064
@ CuraOh. Will this computer be able to handle streaming for sc2 and other games? I have a 2MBPS upload internet connection

I also have a GTX 460 on my current computer and a 650W power supply that I can use?
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 19:16:10
September 11 2011 19:14 GMT
#11065
will be handle stream but in 480p if you want 1080p you need a i5 2500k overclock
you can use the gtx 460 and the supply depend of who made it
psp219
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States315 Posts
September 11 2011 19:23 GMT
#11066
I have the antec power supply 650W. But for the overclock do I need additional fans to handle the heat?
xyOr
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
September 11 2011 19:30 GMT
#11067
On September 12 2011 03:29 CuraOh wrote:
@psp219
here a build for 584 you can change the case that you want buy a better card (gtx 560 ti or hd 6950) but you need to upgrade your power supply to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027


Intel Core i5-2400 and CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723633 $221
ASRock H61M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 $55
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 $160 (20MIR)
CORSAIR Builder Series 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 $45 (15MIR)
LITE-ON DVD Burner and Seagate Barracuda 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696126 $73
Sentey Classic Series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811322034 $30

total 584


i am in the same situation as psp219, except my budget is $706. what would u upgrade, if anything?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 11 2011 19:43 GMT
#11068
On September 12 2011 04:30 xyOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 03:29 CuraOh wrote:
@psp219
here a build for 584 you can change the case that you want buy a better card (gtx 560 ti or hd 6950) but you need to upgrade your power supply to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027


Intel Core i5-2400 and CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723633 $221
ASRock H61M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 $55
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 $160 (20MIR)
CORSAIR Builder Series 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 $45 (15MIR)
LITE-ON DVD Burner and Seagate Barracuda 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696126 $73
Sentey Classic Series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811322034 $30

total 584


i am in the same situation as psp219, except my budget is $706. what would u upgrade, if anything?


CPU+RAM -- same
Optical+HDD -- same

Corsair CX500 V2 - $50 after promo code (ends 9/12), $30 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

XFX HD 6870 - $170 after promo code (ends 9/13), $150 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561

AsRock H61/U3S3 (only if you think you may want USB3 or SATA3 or more expansion slots) - $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Antec 300 (or Cooler Master HAF 912 for $60) - $50 after promo code (ends 9/15), $35 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 19:49:07
September 11 2011 19:48 GMT
#11069
Is a case fan at the bottom front of the case necessary (where the HDD is)? It died out and it is SOOOO DIFFICULT to replace that fan. I have two additional working case fans, one on the side and the other in the top rear.

I use a WD Blue 500 GB HDD.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 11 2011 19:52 GMT
#11070
On September 12 2011 04:48 epikAnglory wrote:
Is a case fan at the bottom front of the case necessary (where the HDD is)? It died out and it is SOOOO DIFFICULT to replace that fan. I have two additional working case fans, one on the side and the other in the top rear.

I use a WD Blue 500 GB HDD.


It isn't just about the HDD. It's also about front to back path of least resistance airflow. Side intake back exhaust doesn't work all that great on its own, if your components put out much heat or your ambient is highish.

Replacing it is kind of a good idea if your PC is halfway decent.
ataryens
Profile Joined June 2010
Iran213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 19:57:21
September 11 2011 19:52 GMT
#11071
On September 12 2011 04:48 epikAnglory wrote:
Is a case fan at the bottom front of the case necessary (where the HDD is)? It died out and it is SOOOO DIFFICULT to replace that fan. I have two additional working case fans, one on the side and the other in the top rear.

I use a WD Blue 500 GB HDD.



Check your HD temps... if too high then yes.
High being over 50 i beleive

I dont have any fans blowing over my HD and its running at 40~, I was told ideal Temp for HD is 35.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
September 11 2011 19:55 GMT
#11072
The reason why I don't bother to replace is it because of the screws it uses. It does not use the standard + or - screws, but has simply nothing (no holes or anything) on top of it. How am I supposed to take it out? The reviews on Newegg says it is easy to replace, but idk how.

I use a crappy case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156226&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Cases (Computer Cases - ATX Form)-_-Raidmax-_-11156226
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 11 2011 19:57 GMT
#11073
If I had to guess, (which is all this is, pictures are a terrible way to figure it out) you take the front panel off and remove the screws from that side.
CuraOh
Profile Joined November 2010
Chile81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 20:02:14
September 11 2011 20:00 GMT
#11074
On September 12 2011 04:23 psp219 wrote:
I have the antec power supply 650W. But for the overclock do I need additional fans to handle the heat?

for a overcloking configuration you need a 2500k a better motherboard and a heatsink and cost you around $103 and i recomend spend 20 more in the case that Myrmidon (antec 300)


i5 2500k and ram combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723540 $249
+$28
ASRock Z68 PRO3-M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157252 $100
+$45
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 $30
+$30

xyOr
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
September 11 2011 20:24 GMT
#11075
On September 12 2011 04:43 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 04:30 xyOr wrote:
On September 12 2011 03:29 CuraOh wrote:
@psp219
here a build for 584 you can change the case that you want buy a better card (gtx 560 ti or hd 6950) but you need to upgrade your power supply to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027


Intel Core i5-2400 and CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723633 $221
ASRock H61M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 $55
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 $160 (20MIR)
CORSAIR Builder Series 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 $45 (15MIR)
LITE-ON DVD Burner and Seagate Barracuda 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696126 $73
Sentey Classic Series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811322034 $30

total 584


i am in the same situation as psp219, except my budget is $706. what would u upgrade, if anything?


CPU+RAM -- same
Optical+HDD -- same

Corsair CX500 V2 - $50 after promo code (ends 9/12), $30 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

XFX HD 6870 - $170 after promo code (ends 9/13), $150 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561

AsRock H61/U3S3 (only if you think you may want USB3 or SATA3 or more expansion slots) - $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Antec 300 (or Cooler Master HAF 912 for $60) - $50 after promo code (ends 9/15), $35 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042


thanks. is it enough for an overclockable setup tho?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 11 2011 20:56 GMT
#11076
On September 12 2011 05:24 xyOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 04:43 Myrmidon wrote:
On September 12 2011 04:30 xyOr wrote:
On September 12 2011 03:29 CuraOh wrote:
@psp219
here a build for 584 you can change the case that you want buy a better card (gtx 560 ti or hd 6950) but you need to upgrade your power supply to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027


Intel Core i5-2400 and CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723633 $221
ASRock H61M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 $55
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 $160 (20MIR)
CORSAIR Builder Series 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 $45 (15MIR)
LITE-ON DVD Burner and Seagate Barracuda 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696126 $73
Sentey Classic Series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811322034 $30

total 584


i am in the same situation as psp219, except my budget is $706. what would u upgrade, if anything?


CPU+RAM -- same
Optical+HDD -- same

Corsair CX500 V2 - $50 after promo code (ends 9/12), $30 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

XFX HD 6870 - $170 after promo code (ends 9/13), $150 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561

AsRock H61/U3S3 (only if you think you may want USB3 or SATA3 or more expansion slots) - $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Antec 300 (or Cooler Master HAF 912 for $60) - $50 after promo code (ends 9/15), $35 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042


thanks. is it enough for an overclockable setup tho?


Overclocking...what? CPU? i5-2400 can't be overclocked except trivially, and H61 motherboard doesn't allow you to overclock anyway. You could spend say $80 on upgrades that would allow you to overclock to say 4.5 GHz with no problem, but I question if that's worth the cost on your budget. Are you going to be running anything on the computer that would do noticeably better with a Sandy Bridge quad core at 4.5 GHz or so as opposed to 3.1-3.4 GHz?
Kiwiandapple
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium240 Posts
September 11 2011 21:27 GMT
#11077
.
Don't worry, that's halo!
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 22:53:12
September 11 2011 22:50 GMT
#11078
On September 12 2011 04:57 JingleHell wrote:
If I had to guess, (which is all this is, pictures are a terrible way to figure it out) you take the front panel off and remove the screws from that side.

Ok thanks, I managed to install it by ripping out the screws (fuck the $30 shit case) with my bare hands while both causing the plastic, screws, and my hands to bleed. Anyways this is how my case looks like now:

Side: Rosewill 80 MM Fan
Rear: Coolermaster 120 MM Fan
Bottom Front: Rosewill 120 MM Fan

They are all set to Exhaust (How do you set to intake, do you still flip it over or are there certain fans for that?). Is it ok if they are all on exhaust mode?

And this thing is loud as a beast, mainly because of the Xigmatek Loki (GOD THAT THING IS HORRIBLY LOUD).What programs do I use to control the speed of the Loki? I am planning to drop my 4.2 GHz to 3.9 GHz.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 22:58:30
September 11 2011 22:56 GMT
#11079
You should be able to configure fan speeds for certain temps for your Loki in the BIOS. Also make sure you have the correct type of fan selected between 3pin/4pin. That can be the difference between always 100% and actually controlled.

On the front fan, was it shitty little plastic retaining clip thingies? I hate those.

No, it isn't good to have all your fans exhaust, that kind of destroys airflow. You generally want roughly linear airflow, and if you have an odd number of fans, go for more intake than exhaust.

And yes, just flip the fan over to face the other direction and it will magically blow air the other direction. Not to be sarcastic, but that one was just a bit silly.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 23:00:28
September 11 2011 23:00 GMT
#11080
The back of my case uses a clip, the front is just really difficult to change because the front cover is connected to the power button wires and stuff. The easiest to change would be the side fan.

Which should I set to intake? I did research, I see some saying front intake is best, and some all exhaust.
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