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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 23:04:13
September 11 2011 23:03 GMT
#11081
All exhaust is retarded except in specific circumstances that don't apply to $30 cases or anyone who would buy them. And no, this isn't insulting you, just the people who said all exhaust as general advice.

Front intake, side intake, back exhaust. Cool air moving towards your CPU and GPU, and goes out the back. Unless a case is designed for negative pressure, or is just super low end, you want to balance intake with exhaust, or, if you have an odd number, more intake than exhaust.

Mind you, that's speaking incredibly generally, I'm aware there's exceptions, they don't apply here.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#11082
While we're on the subject, I think the Loki should be blowing (very roughly) towards the rear exhaust area. Not certain about that, but I think it's how most fans work
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 11 2011 23:13 GMT
#11083
On September 12 2011 08:11 MisterFred wrote:
While we're on the subject, I think the Loki should be blowing (very roughly) towards the rear exhaust area. Not certain about that, but I think it's how most fans work


Yes, it should. Fits in with that whole air flowing in roughly one direction thing. Airflow fighting itself is never good.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
September 11 2011 23:30 GMT
#11084
On iPad so sorry for weird typing. Which way is exhaust, the fan pointing towards the outside? Because I just set it the other way, with the spinning logo pointing inside, and for some reason it feels like more air is coming out than before.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 11 2011 23:35 GMT
#11085
Ok, If you look at the blades, it should be relatively obvious which way they're designed to push air. Exhaust means pushing out, yes. If they're decent speed fans, you'll be able to feel the air moving from the outside of an intake as well.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
September 11 2011 23:46 GMT
#11086
On September 12 2011 08:35 JingleHell wrote:
Ok, If you look at the blades, it should be relatively obvious which way they're designed to push air. Exhaust means pushing out, yes. If they're decent speed fans, you'll be able to feel the air moving from the outside of an intake as well.

Nope I cannot tell which way, sorry. I have no idea whifh way is exhaust or intake. Should the non moving part with the serial number and stuff be facing outside or inside for exhaust? Assuming we are talking about the standard case fan design.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 11 2011 23:50 GMT
#11087
The "standard" case fan design basically means wires, a motor, and blades.

But usually, the fan blows toward the little strut thingies that support the middle. I assume this is balance related.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 11 2011 23:51 GMT
#11088
Fans should have an arrow on them indicating which way it blows air. Usually, the fanguard should face the way you want exhaust.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 11 2011 23:55 GMT
#11089
On September 12 2011 08:51 skyR wrote:
Fans should have an arrow on them indicating which way it blows air. Usually, the fanguard should face the way you want exhaust.


Hmmm. An arrow. That's incredibly fancy. How have I never managed to notice this? I might just be missing the forest for the trees...

Of course, I already knew I tend to find the complicated way of doing things.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 12 2011 00:01 GMT
#11090
Not every model has arrows I think. I've seen them before, but I don't mess around with fans much or really pay much attention. Also I'm going to claim a complete fail on aerodynamics knowledge, so no explanation from me of why it blows the direction it does.
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-12 00:05:54
September 12 2011 00:04 GMT
#11091
I am so confused, my side 80 MM fan seems to blow OUT more air with the fanguard pointing outside, so I made it point inside again for intake. However, my rear 120MM fan confuses me like crazy. It has similar air flow no matter which way I put it, and has no arrows. My CPU temperatures (it is like 1 inch away from my Loki) seem the same.

I have no idea if my front fan is intake or exhaust, but I am not spending 2 hours of my life taking that cursed shit cover off again.
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-12 00:07:23
September 12 2011 00:06 GMT
#11092
My knowledge of fans and whatnot starts and stops with the basic path of least resistance, don't push against airflow, and don't point hot air towards components that need to be cool. My best guess on why they point the way they do is pretty bad: so the blades don't unscrew themselves. (Note, this is a joke, I think.)

If your CPU temps aren't bothering you, and the noise isn't making you want to kill yourself, call it good, I guess. It's not like you're trying to set OC records anyway.
xyOr
Profile Joined August 2011
United States28 Posts
September 12 2011 00:37 GMT
#11093
On September 12 2011 05:56 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 05:24 xyOr wrote:
On September 12 2011 04:43 Myrmidon wrote:
On September 12 2011 04:30 xyOr wrote:
On September 12 2011 03:29 CuraOh wrote:
@psp219
here a build for 584 you can change the case that you want buy a better card (gtx 560 ti or hd 6950) but you need to upgrade your power supply to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027


Intel Core i5-2400 and CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.723633 $221
ASRock H61M
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 $55
GIGABYTE Radeon HD 6850 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 $160 (20MIR)
CORSAIR Builder Series 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 $45 (15MIR)
LITE-ON DVD Burner and Seagate Barracuda 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.696126 $73
Sentey Classic Series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811322034 $30

total 584


i am in the same situation as psp219, except my budget is $706. what would u upgrade, if anything?


CPU+RAM -- same
Optical+HDD -- same

Corsair CX500 V2 - $50 after promo code (ends 9/12), $30 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027

XFX HD 6870 - $170 after promo code (ends 9/13), $150 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150561

AsRock H61/U3S3 (only if you think you may want USB3 or SATA3 or more expansion slots) - $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

Antec 300 (or Cooler Master HAF 912 for $60) - $50 after promo code (ends 9/15), $35 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042


thanks. is it enough for an overclockable setup tho?


Overclocking...what? CPU? i5-2400 can't be overclocked except trivially, and H61 motherboard doesn't allow you to overclock anyway. You could spend say $80 on upgrades that would allow you to overclock to say 4.5 GHz with no problem, but I question if that's worth the cost on your budget. Are you going to be running anything on the computer that would do noticeably better with a Sandy Bridge quad core at 4.5 GHz or so as opposed to 3.1-3.4 GHz?


I meant is $706 enough for an overclockable configuration? because you recommended upgrades but not the psu
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
September 12 2011 00:46 GMT
#11094
Hey, I have two computers, one is mine and the other is a family computer for homework, email etc. It is getting old, maybe 4 years now, maybe more. Last week my HDD died and I did not back up the information because I just got this computer and was planning on doing it now. Is there any possible way to get the pictures and stuff off of it? A professional or something?

The other thing is since that computer is getting past it's time I was hoping to use some of it to make a new computer. What do you think is still reusable? It is an old machine. Is the PSU still good? The case is fine, the disc drive is good, monitor is good.

So with salvaging what I can the budget would be 500$ or less if possible. I live in Canada would like to buy from Canada computers.

My monitor is: 1680x1050

Used for homework email, basic stuff.

Upgrade whenever its needed. 2-4 years.

I plan on building it really soon.

I do need an OS. ( what would change if I did not need OS?)

Canada computer would be preferred.

Thanks a lot!
epikAnglory
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1120 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-12 01:13:25
September 12 2011 01:11 GMT
#11095
$100 cheaper if you already had an OS, you can't use a computer without an OS (I strongly suggest against using Linux or anything). Decent specs would be
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Intel Core i3 2100
H61 Motherboard
400-450w PSU

Yes you can get a good computer for under $500.
Not giving you part links because I don't use Canadian websites and I will just end up giving you a bunch of overpriced parts.
EDIT: Sigh I will try what I can: (please no one quote me and criticize my overpriced links)
Intel Core i3 2100
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65&item_id=036088

EDIT: Screw it I can't even find RAM cards on Canada Computer. Why don't you use NCIX?
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 12 2011 01:13 GMT
#11096
Yeah, the NCIX UI gives me migraines. Frys' is slightly better, but Newegg is probably the easiest to use.
Shew
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States460 Posts
September 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#11097
Alright, finally got the OK to get a computer going for college!

Looking for a pre-built computer (no room to build + time in college). One that will be able to stream sc2 well, and have a sound card so I can produce music/etc on it. My budget for the computer itself is about $1,000.. but if I can save money the better. I'll be getting a 20" 16 monitor most likely that won't be factored into the budget.

suggestions?!
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shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
September 12 2011 01:30 GMT
#11098
On September 12 2011 10:11 epikAnglory wrote:
$100 cheaper if you already had an OS, you can't use a computer without an OS (I strongly suggest against using Linux or anything). Decent specs would be
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Intel Core i3 2100
H61 Motherboard
400-450w PSU

Yes you can get a good computer for under $500.
Not giving you part links because I don't use Canadian websites and I will just end up giving you a bunch of overpriced parts.
EDIT: Sigh I will try what I can: (please no one quote me and criticize my overpriced links)
Intel Core i3 2100
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65&item_id=036088

EDIT: Screw it I can't even find RAM cards on Canada Computer. Why don't you use NCIX?


I have the OS windows 7 64bit so you can take that off the list. Still hoping for 500$
I was hoping Canada computers because there is one really close to my house, I was trying to go for not online. would a 4 year old psu be junk now or like what is there life cycle?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 12 2011 01:35 GMT
#11099
On September 12 2011 10:30 shtdisturbance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 10:11 epikAnglory wrote:
$100 cheaper if you already had an OS, you can't use a computer without an OS (I strongly suggest against using Linux or anything). Decent specs would be
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
4 GB DDR3 RAM
Intel Core i3 2100
H61 Motherboard
400-450w PSU

Yes you can get a good computer for under $500.
Not giving you part links because I don't use Canadian websites and I will just end up giving you a bunch of overpriced parts.
EDIT: Sigh I will try what I can: (please no one quote me and criticize my overpriced links)
Intel Core i3 2100
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65&item_id=036088

EDIT: Screw it I can't even find RAM cards on Canada Computer. Why don't you use NCIX?


I have the OS windows 7 64bit so you can take that off the list. Still hoping for 500$
I was hoping Canada computers because there is one really close to my house, I was trying to go for not online. would a 4 year old psu be junk now or like what is there life cycle?


Odds are good the PSU was junk when it was bought, and is worse now. Model number will be needed for real info though.
shtdisturbance
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada613 Posts
September 12 2011 01:40 GMT
#11100
I cant get the model number now, its at a friends because the HDD is trashed =( I'm guessing I should just go for a new one. The only other thing I could keep would be the disc drive and maybe case im guessing.
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