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My computer died recently (never buy dell... EVER) and so I am looking to actually build this time. I have a parts list but just want a once over from the minds here at TL. I will even answer the questions 
What is your budget?
800 solid, after rebates
What is your resolution?
I wont be getting a new monitor for a couple months, so I don't have a set res. I would like to go decently high and be able to power any reasonable monitor though.
What are you using it for?
I play competitive tf2, a lot of sc2, video editing, photoshop and would like to be able to consider streaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
I want this to handle my use for around 4 years or so unless I get a great job.
When do you plan on building it?
Ordering will be done July 11th, so really soon
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes, maybe not at first, but definitely soon.
Do you need an Operating System?
nope my ahh, school provides it for free...
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
maybe, I do plan on upgrading the gpu at some point in time in the future, not sure if that means xfire or just getting a whole new one right now.
Where are you buying your parts from?
newegg.
Here is what I have put together.
case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227
cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131703
RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145324
psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
gpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127490
HD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148701
NIC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166038
DVD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289
(yes, I am going to be running it on wifi, yes I know that isnt optimal, no I dont have a choice
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CrossfireX and SLI means running two identical cards to increase performance (bad upgrade path btw).
Your power supply is inadequate for SLI but you have a SLI ready board. If you're not doing SLI, you don't need the ASUS P8P67 Pro, a regular ASUS P8P67 or even a less expensive board (not the LE variant) P67 would be good for overclocking.
Getting the Twin Frozr II for the 5770 seems like a strange choice when a less expensive card would overclock most likely just as far.
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I'm looking at SSDs, and it seems like the only SSD you guys recommend is the Crucial M4, or the Intel 320, but even the Intel is rare. Is there a specific reason you avoid the OCZ Vertex 2, Corsair Force or Kingston V100, or is it just pricing that's the difference? The Crucial M4 isn't in stock much for me.
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A lot of SSD's use controllers with unreliable firmware that occasionally loses track of minor, inconsequential things, like where it put your OS.
The Intel's and newer Crucials are some of the more reliable ones.
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What is your budget?
about 800-1000
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
I play sc2 currently. I will use it for school also, but gaming will be it's primary purpose.
What is your upgrade cycle?
I will add another graphics card in the next year or so to make it SLI. It'll be at least 2 years before I'll completely get a new one though
When do you plan on building it?
I'll be ordering around August 21st
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes, I planned around 4.3-4.5 Ghz
Do you need an Operating System?
No, I'm a CIS student ^.^
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Yes, later though.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg, unless there is somewhere else reliable that's cheaper. I may use some from Amazon because I can trade textbooks for Amazon gift cards.
I have this so far. I'm unsure of the power supply, but I wanted to factor in capacitor degradation to be sure it could last a long time.
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 $160
i5-2500k 220$
EVGA Geforce 560 TI 220$
Antec Three Hundred Illusion $55 (Is it really that difficult to wire with this case?)
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 $50
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB $65
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 $75
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W $
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Hyper 212+ is overpriced at $50, it's supposed to be a $25 cooler. Newegg just priced it to match demand. Xigmatek Gaia is cheaper and similar performance.
And that is way more PSU than you need, by roughly a metric asston. If you want overkill, get like 500w.
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On July 10 2011 06:01 JingleHell wrote:
Hyper 212+ is overpriced at $50, it's supposed to be a $25 cooler. Newegg just priced it to match demand. Xigmatek Gaia is cheaper and similar performance.
And that is way more PSU than you need, by roughly a metric asston. If you want overkill, get like 500w.
I would only need a 500w PSU with 2 of the 560 ti(s)?
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On July 10 2011 06:07 ignignokt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 06:01 JingleHell wrote:
Hyper 212+ is overpriced at $50, it's supposed to be a $25 cooler. Newegg just priced it to match demand. Xigmatek Gaia is cheaper and similar performance.
And that is way more PSU than you need, by roughly a metric asston. If you want overkill, get like 500w. I would only need a 500w PSU with 2 of the 560 ti(s)?
Oh, you're planning to SLI later... Go for 650-750 if you really need SLI.
Unless you plan to add the second one within ~6-8 months, it probably won't end up being better than just upgrading single card though. Especially with SLI scaling, custom profiles, and games that refuse to work with it.
My 460s take tons of fiddling with when I buy new releases.
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I finally got my computer pretty much up and running after so many hours. I have an ssd and hdd and my os is on my sdd. My program files and program files x86 are also on my sdd. Is it suppose to be there? Or how do i get it off
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On July 10 2011 06:54 shtdisturbance wrote:
I finally got my computer pretty much up and running after so many hours. I have an ssd and hdd and my os is on my sdd. My program files and program files x86 are also on my sdd. Is it suppose to be there? Or how do i get it off
What should or shouldn't be on your SSD is pretty much up to you. What size is the SSD?
There are some things it makes less sense to have on there, though.
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My ssd is 80 gig, but then after os and everything on it im down to 59.
I know my os should be on it and my games, but should my program files not be on my other hdd? It does not let you move it if it is.
Edit: Will all my stuff auto install to my sdd? how can i set default place to install stuff.
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On July 10 2011 07:05 shtdisturbance wrote:
My ssd is 80 gig, but then after os and everything on it im down to 59.
I know my os should be on it and my games, but should my program files not be on my other hdd? It does not let you move it if it is.
Edit: Will all my stuff auto install to my sdd? how can i set default place to install stuff.
You generally have the option with each piece of software where to install it.
Only games that benefit from faster load times should be on your SSD. Games where multiple people need to all load, it tends to be a waste, since most people are still on an HDD, you'll just end up waiting on them. Doesn't hurt anything, but doesn't help much.
Software like Adobe reader, MS office, and other stuff with long load times benefit from being on an SSD.
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This question makes no sense. What do you need to be able to do with your PC, software-wise?
Generally you pick a video card based on your needs and resolution, not a resolution based on your needs and your video card...
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Either get a P67 or Z68 motherboard, or a non -k processor. You can't OC on H67, and -k is unlocked multiplier to OC.
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Either get a P67 or Z68 motherboard, or a non -k processor. You can't OC on H67, and -k is unlocked multiplier to OC.
Thanks, I've decided to go without the -k because I don't plan on overclocking. Any other advice?
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On July 10 2011 11:22 Lampzerg wrote:Show nested quote +
Either get a P67 or Z68 motherboard, or a non -k processor. You can't OC on H67, and -k is unlocked multiplier to OC.
Thanks, I've decided to go without the -k because I don't plan on overclocking. Any other advice?
Stepping down to an i5 2400 will save you a fair chunk of money in that case with a fairly minor dip in performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=288
Not necesary, but you can decide based on that.
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On July 10 2011 11:24 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 11:22 Lampzerg wrote:
Either get a P67 or Z68 motherboard, or a non -k processor. You can't OC on H67, and -k is unlocked multiplier to OC.
Thanks, I've decided to go without the -k because I don't plan on overclocking. Any other advice? Stepping down to an i5 2400 will save you a fair chunk of money in that case with a fairly minor dip in performance. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=288Not necesary, but you can decide based on that.
So with the performance drop from switching to the 2400, would still be fine for playing SC2 on high while streaming?
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On July 10 2011 11:37 Lampzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 11:24 JingleHell wrote:On July 10 2011 11:22 Lampzerg wrote:
Either get a P67 or Z68 motherboard, or a non -k processor. You can't OC on H67, and -k is unlocked multiplier to OC.
Thanks, I've decided to go without the -k because I don't plan on overclocking. Any other advice? Stepping down to an i5 2400 will save you a fair chunk of money in that case with a fairly minor dip in performance. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=288Not necesary, but you can decide based on that. So with the performance drop from switching to the 2400, would still be fine for playing SC2 on high while streaming?
Well, if you can do it on the 2500 non-k, then stepping down to the 2400 isn't likely to be the thing that makes it impossible. I haven't got the bandwidth to stream, or a Sandy Bridge CPU to test it with, but generally people say you can.
People have certainly said they stream with worse.
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