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On June 15 2011 00:09 JingleHell wrote: The direction the fan faces determines whether it's exhaust or intake. Generally exhausts and intakes are lined up to move air in one direction.
Exhaust = Pushes air out. Intake = pulls air in. Crazy.
haha. That's what I thought at first, but I thought maybe there were fans specifically designed to do on or the other based on his post. :D I guess I can switch the fan direction around tonight hah
Yeah, as it turns out, fans are pretty much designed to spin one way and push air one way, and most of them are built to be mounted in either configuration. This has two purposes. One, user convenience, and two, cost cutting in manufacturing, as it would be more expensive (and retarded) to have two lines, the only difference being which side they drilled holes in.
Hey guys, i'm in the market for one (possibly two) new fans for my CM 212+ CPU cooler. I suppose they'll have to be 120mm fans (although i've seen some 140mm ones with 120mm mounting holes) and i'd like something with good airflow (i dont know if CFM is the last word with cooling potential) and reasonable noise control. The upper limit im willing to pay is about $25-30 AUD, and i am buying from PCCG. Here is a link to their list of 120mm fans: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=9_510&vk_sort=0
Thank you very much
edit: I'm currently using the Blade Master that comes with the 212+ cooler, how does this stack up to some of the other fans out there? Is it worth it to buy two fans? I don't care about the look of fans or the look of two different coloured fans being used in conjunction.
Well i finalized everything now and purchased the following
Case- Antec Nine Hundred ($68.50) After Tax
Motherboard- MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($154.99) After Tax (Rebate- $20)
GPU- MSI R6850 Cyclone PE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity ($167.55) After Tax (Rebate- $20)
PSU- Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($54.99) After Tax (Rebate- $15)
Ram- G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL ($64.99) After Tax
SSD/Hard Drive- Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ($50.99) After Tax
CD/DVD/Blu-Ray- LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 – OEM ($20.99) After Tax
Heat Sink- XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler bracket included I7 i5 775 1155 AMD and dual fan push pull compatible ($29.99) After Tax
It turned out to be $800 total, $750 after all the rebates. Thanks to everyone and their suggestions!
I'm back again, once more with questions about graphics card performance. AKA, I still don't know what I'm doing when it comes to them and would like to know which of the cards in the following list would be best. This is mostly to future proof the computers I'm building against anything graphically strenuous in the future rather than a specific need right now, though it would be nice if I could run SC2 well on them just in case : )
The number in parentheses is the rebate. They are all 1GB cards.
GT 520 and HD 6450 are the weaker two and may struggle on medium at higher resolutions. The others would do medium fine. GT 430 and HD 5570 are pretty close. HD 4670 is older and a bit worse than the HD 5570, and is the only one not to support DirectX 11.
On June 15 2011 03:38 Melancholia wrote: I'm back again, once more with questions about graphics card performance. AKA, I still don't know what I'm doing when it comes to them and would like to know which of the cards in the following list would be best. This is mostly to future proof the computers I'm building against anything graphically strenuous in the future rather than a specific need right now, though it would be nice if I could run SC2 well on them just in case : )
The number in parentheses is the rebate. They are all 1GB cards.
Those aren't past-proof against anything more graphically strenuous than a Blu-Ray, what makes you think they'll future proof anything? Aside from HTPC use, they're all pretty weak options, and for just a little more, you can get way better performance.
On June 15 2011 03:38 Melancholia wrote: I'm back again, once more with questions about graphics card performance. AKA, I still don't know what I'm doing when it comes to them and would like to know which of the cards in the following list would be best. This is mostly to future proof the computers I'm building against anything graphically strenuous in the future rather than a specific need right now, though it would be nice if I could run SC2 well on them just in case : )
The number in parentheses is the rebate. They are all 1GB cards.
Those aren't past-proof against anything more graphically strenuous than a Blu-Ray, what makes you think they'll future proof anything? Aside from HTPC use, they're all pretty weak options, and for just a little more, you can get way better performance.
If a "little more" puts me past $75 then I'm over budget. If not, what do you recommend?
On June 15 2011 03:38 Melancholia wrote: I'm back again, once more with questions about graphics card performance. AKA, I still don't know what I'm doing when it comes to them and would like to know which of the cards in the following list would be best. This is mostly to future proof the computers I'm building against anything graphically strenuous in the future rather than a specific need right now, though it would be nice if I could run SC2 well on them just in case : )
The number in parentheses is the rebate. They are all 1GB cards.
Those aren't past-proof against anything more graphically strenuous than a Blu-Ray, what makes you think they'll future proof anything? Aside from HTPC use, they're all pretty weak options, and for just a little more, you can get way better performance.
If a "little more" puts me past $75 then I'm over budget. If not, what do you recommend?
In that case, the 430 probably. None of those cards is good, but it's one of the least terrible.
When you're dealing with that weak of cards, the ~15% better performance is probably worth it. It's $80 before rebate, $65 after. Close, but $5 for that performance difference is probably worth it.
On June 15 2011 04:36 Stoids wrote: Parts just came in today! Going to start building within the hour? Any advice for a first time builder? Good guide or anything?
Looking forward to it.
Stay the hell off carpet, take off your fuzzy socks, and keep your beverage on a different surface than you're working on.
Touch the power supply if you have to walk on carpet to de-static yourself.
On June 15 2011 03:38 Melancholia wrote: I'm back again, once more with questions about graphics card performance. AKA, I still don't know what I'm doing when it comes to them and would like to know which of the cards in the following list would be best. This is mostly to future proof the computers I'm building against anything graphically strenuous in the future rather than a specific need right now, though it would be nice if I could run SC2 well on them just in case : )
The number in parentheses is the rebate. They are all 1GB cards.
Those aren't past-proof against anything more graphically strenuous than a Blu-Ray, what makes you think they'll future proof anything? Aside from HTPC use, they're all pretty weak options, and for just a little more, you can get way better performance.
If a "little more" puts me past $75 then I'm over budget. If not, what do you recommend?
In that case, the 430 probably. None of those cards is good, but it's one of the least terrible.
When you're dealing with that weak of cards, the ~15% better performance is probably worth it. It's $80 before rebate, $65 after. Close, but $5 for that performance difference is probably worth it.
It's a $20 difference before the rebate, and $25 after. Thanks for the advice, but either way it doesn't fit my build. Frankly I probably don't need a separate card at all, this is really just in case.
On June 15 2011 04:36 Stoids wrote: Parts just came in today! Going to start building within the hour? Any advice for a first time builder? Good guide or anything?
On June 15 2011 04:36 Stoids wrote: Parts just came in today! Going to start building within the hour? Any advice for a first time builder? Good guide or anything?
On June 14 2011 11:01 Myrmidon wrote: @Onioncookie:
This is a bit above your original budget range, but it has a i5-2410M, HD 6850M (a downclocked desktop HD 5770, so it will run games on high or medium very well), and a 17" screen. I don't think this is a particularly great deal, but it looked better than most of the other options on amazon.de.
Hmmm thanks looks good ... and i forgot that i wanted to go for Intel/Nvidia since i dont wanna go for ATI anymore is there a similar model with an Nvidia? :D
On June 15 2011 03:38 Melancholia wrote: I'm back again, once more with questions about graphics card performance. AKA, I still don't know what I'm doing when it comes to them and would like to know which of the cards in the following list would be best. This is mostly to future proof the computers I'm building against anything graphically strenuous in the future rather than a specific need right now, though it would be nice if I could run SC2 well on them just in case : )
The number in parentheses is the rebate. They are all 1GB cards.
Those aren't past-proof against anything more graphically strenuous than a Blu-Ray, what makes you think they'll future proof anything? Aside from HTPC use, they're all pretty weak options, and for just a little more, you can get way better performance.
If a "little more" puts me past $75 then I'm over budget. If not, what do you recommend?
In that case, the 430 probably. None of those cards is good, but it's one of the least terrible.
When you're dealing with that weak of cards, the ~15% better performance is probably worth it. It's $80 before rebate, $65 after. Close, but $5 for that performance difference is probably worth it.
It's a $20 difference before the rebate, and $25 after. Thanks for the advice, but either way it doesn't fit my build. Frankly I probably don't need a separate card at all, this is really just in case.
Would you guys say that technology development is outpacing game development these days? It seems like processors/GPUs are getting vastly more powerful, but games aren't developing quite as fast to keep up and so we are left with powerful machines that aren't challenged. Though I'm sure some games don't run well simply because they aren't coded very well.
EPT
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