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Shizzabamman
United States71 Posts
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scarymeerkat
Canada107 Posts
Obviously I know that the computer I build will be better than this, and he has no problems with this, he is just looking for an explanation for why having me build the computer is the better option, so much so that paying an extra $100 (give or take a little) for simplicity's and convenience's sakes would not be a correct decision. Any help as to what he should be told? | ||
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Jaso
United States2147 Posts
Also, it gives you the flexibility in choosing your parts. You can probably get the hard drive, RAM, case, and PSU from better brands than what's in the pre-built. That's about all I can think of.. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Also, Cyberpower's default builds use shit PSU's or charge you a ton extra for a reliable one. It's like getting the Rust Inhibitor on a car... They also use shady tactics, like they shipped a friend of mine a GTX 465 instead of a 460, and tried to tell him it was a free upgrade because they were out of stock. When he called them out after I showed him benchmarks, they somehow shipped the right card overnight that day. | ||
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Habel
United States123 Posts
Something along the lines of that will probably help your case, and if not, say that by building your own computer you would have much more control over what goes in it, and the quality of the parts that you are able to get by building it your self will last longer than those that best buy or other companies put in. For example, the computer you provided does not specify the mother board used. Best buy usually buys the cheapest parts to get the most power in the least price, however they also have to pay more for resale, something you would not have to do. With that extra money you could buy a more stable and respected motherboard. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
This is a bit above your original budget range, but it has a i5-2410M, HD 6850M (a downclocked desktop HD 5770, so it will run games on high or medium very well), and a 17" screen. I don't think this is a particularly great deal, but it looked better than most of the other options on amazon.de. Acer Aspire 7750G @Shizzabamman: If you can afford it, get the i5-2400. It has two extra cores, Turbo Boost, and extra L3 cache over the i3-2100. If you were watching an HD stream on another monitor while playing, that could potentially have a small impact on your SC2 or other game's performance, on the dual core. However, if you're serious about just having good enough specs for SC2 (and probably D3?) and maybe not other things and future games, and especially if you don't have a stream going on in the background, getting an i3-2100 over the i5-2400 would be a decent place to save some money. @scarymeerkat: In addition, you may get longer warranties on individual parts from a computer you put together yourself. This is something that people who don't build their own computers may not realize. Hard drives, motherboards, graphics cards, power supplies, etc. tend to have warranties around 3 years, sometimes more (or less). Often times, customer support through some of the individual manufacturers--particularly if you're dealing with companies like EVGA, Corsair, etc., from what I've heard--is much better than through something like CyberPower. If your parents would care at all, you could say you're getting a more energy-efficient system, depending on what you actually get. e.g. if you get a more efficient power supply. (Though really in reality, the energy savings are generally pretty small there, unless you're running distributed computing applications 24/7.) A 700W PSU that's not claimed to be 80 plus is probably going to have something well under 70% efficiency at idle loads with a i5-2400 and HD 6850. | ||
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scarymeerkat
Canada107 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
It's like if someone tells you they'll sell you a used car, as is, with low mileage, for 75% of the blue book value. It may start today, but there's a reason you're getting what seems like such a good deal on it, and you probably don't want to find out the hard way. That's an analogy you can give your parents. If a deal sounds too good to be true, it usually is. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Cyberpower provides a one year warranty. Individually components have three, five, and even lifetime warranty. You can conclude yourself which is more reliable. | ||
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scarymeerkat
Canada107 Posts
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Attackpanda
United States2 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Attackpanda
United States2 Posts
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ragnasaur
United States804 Posts
On June 14 2011 11:12 scarymeerkat wrote: So I guess it's a little too good to be true kind of thing, huh? I was surprised to find that price because I've seen similar/worse prebuilts for 100-200$ more. Thanks for the input, any more is also appreciated. Seeing how things have been going I have no doubt I'll be back with a coiple more questions. This forum is really helpful! I was in the same boat as you 6 years ago when i ordered my current computer. I had been doing a bunch of research and ended up going with a CyberpowerPC prebuilt computer from their website because they had the cheapest prices and I wasn't comfortable with building it myself. I was very pleased with the computer that i bought. It came with an extra fan and an evga gpu rather than the no-name one they listed on their site. The case and cables were very well assembled. The company itself is pretty good I would say. I've used their customer support a bunch of times and even though it was kind of ghetto it is was still very helpful and reliable. As for their parts go you can swap out any component with an upgrade/downgrade on their website. Having typed that, I would still recommend buying the parts individually and assembling it yourself. It is actually very easy like legos, and it will save some money even though cyberpower has good prices. If you don't want a worry though then just order it from their website. I wouldn't get it through best buy. Also google teh_internetz and browse your local magazine shop for coupon codes | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/diamond-diamond-radeon-6970pe52gxoc-2048mb-gddr5-pci-e-video-card-6970pe52gxoc/10162857.aspx?path=f811e9682b32b3bd05e184643bf62e1aen02&lang=fr-CA&pcname=&sku=10162857 How does their Price match work? Will it work if im also using my 250$ gift card? ty Oh and, NCIX has Diamond Radeon HD 6970 880MHZ 2GB 5.5GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI 2XMINI Display Port PCI-E Video Card @ 394.99$ - 30$ mir... and Bestdirect has it at 341.30 WITH NO MIR! That's pretty insane ^^ Just wanted to make sure again : the 6970 2gb is a good card for the price ^^ (vs Nvidia 570/580 that are also available at futureshop) Robert | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
The GTX570, GTX580, and HD6970 are all wastes of money. You don't gain much out of them and they are not significantly better than weaker cards that an unplayable game is going to be significantly better looking or playable. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11554 Posts
Adequate CPU power for gaming, and great GPU power. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4444/amd-llano-notebook-review-a-series-fusion-apu-a8-3500m/11 Also insanely good battery life at a low price. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
He has mentioned that he wants to do Eyefinity in previous posts but forgot to mention it in this one. And the 6950 / 6970 are much better choices than the GTX 570 / GTX 580 for a multi-GPU configuration. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
Note this : I currently am using AMD 5770. It runs SC2 perfectly, so yea, for SC2, the new GPU would be a waste. However! BF3 is coming out soon. If the game allows it, I'd like to run everything on max and to eyefinity it. Also, a friend will buy that used AMD 5770 should I get a new GPU. @skyr : how does it work online though? (Unless if you can order online stuff in a physical store) | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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