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JingleHell

United States11308 Posts

June 13 2011 02:32 GMT

#6721

Oh wait, it's a nonstandard size side fan, that's why you don't buy a 12.5mm scythe fan for it.

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

June 13 2011 02:36 GMT

#6722

22.35$ actually!

Well, if i buy the coolermaster, how much will it cost more to add that second fan? (what do i need to purchase? Fan + clip?)

If the A70 is comparable, then i wont need to buy a second fan ^^. That's why I'm asking. Most of the concerns are about its price. But on special at 29.99$, is it a good buy VS 212+?

I played with the side fan for a while. There is a way for me to put the fan outside of the case, while keeping it! Granted, it may be ugly looking, but who cares? I get both of the world : I keep the fan, and i clear the 150mm limit!

Robert

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 13 2011 02:41 GMT

#6723

There are extra clips for the Hyper 212+ and I'm pretty sure the A70 includes shitty fans.

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

June 13 2011 02:45 GMT

#6724

what type of fan to get with the hyper 212?

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 13 2011 02:50 GMT

#6725

A70 provides you with two 2000 RPM fans capable of 61 CFM while the Hyper 212+ gives you one 2000 RPM fan capable of 76.8 CFM. You can buy better fans for around $5 >.>

geethy

Australia67 Posts

June 13 2011 02:53 GMT

#6726

Hey, just wondering, which of these is better?
CoolerMaster HAF 932 Case
SilverStone Raven RV02-E with window
BitFenix Colossus Black Gaming Case
NZXT Phantom Case Black
CoolerMaster CM Storm Sniper Black Edition
There all the same price on pccg, and I don't care about looks or sound really, I just want to know which performs better at cooling and which would be able to last me for the longest time, as I'm probably gonna go into SLI later on. Thanks

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 13 2011 02:58 GMT

#6727

RV02-E without a question. It's one of the best cases for air cooling on the market.

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

June 13 2011 03:00 GMT

#6728

How about this :
Scythe Ultra Kaze 120MM High Static Pressure Fan 38MM 3000RPM 133.6CFM 45.9DBA
@ 6.35 Direct canada

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 13 2011 03:03 GMT

#6729

Yes that would work.

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

June 13 2011 03:04 GMT

#6730

What would you set this scythe for? Push, or pull?

semantics

10040 Posts

June 13 2011 03:06 GMT

#6731

On June 13 2011 12:00 XenOmega wrote:
How about this :
Scythe Ultra Kaze 120MM High Static Pressure Fan 38MM 3000RPM 133.6CFM45.9DBA
@ 6.35 Direct canada

better hope that has a 3pin variant or you have a fan collector that works with molex cables else it's gonna sound like a leaf blower inside your comp.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

June 13 2011 03:06 GMT

#6732

I'd get two of them actually for push pull and use the one included with the Hyper 212+ for something else or replace an existing case fan that is worse.

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

June 13 2011 03:08 GMT

#6733

Well, I don't mind too much noise, unless there's something quieter and still good out there!

Robert

semantics

10040 Posts

June 13 2011 03:12 GMT

#6734

Well 46dba isn't quite a leaf blower but if it doesn't throttle down when you're just idling you'll defendant notice it buzzing around 3000rpm. In games you probably wont notice.

as far as push pull if you only have 1 fan usually people go push unless they run into heatsink on their tall ram being an issue because in pull format the fan has to fight the heatsink more pulling air though it

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

June 13 2011 03:33 GMT

#6735

2x scythe + 1 coolermaster = 40$!

SSJJaedong

United States20 Posts

June 13 2011 04:06 GMT

#6736

Computer Build <3

- Processor
o ($224.99) Free Shipping
 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Processors - Desktops-_-Intel-_-19115072

- Ram
o $79.99- $15 ($64.99) $off w/ promo code EMCKDKA22
 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=u0t0f0fp0dd0c0s701&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16820231426

- Graphics Card
o $199.99 -$20 ($179.99) off after mail-in rebate
 MSI N460GTX Hawk GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127518

OR

o $179.99 - $20 ($159.99) off after mail-in rebate
 MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127534

OR

o $ 179.99 - $40 ($139.99) off after mail-in rebate
 EVGA 01G-P3-1372-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=u0t2972429f30fp52499dd0c0s701&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16814130571

OR (Probably not, might just save to 2nd GTX 460 to SLI later)

o $359.99 - $10 instant discount - $20 coupon discount EVGA607A - $40 ($289.99) after mail-in rebate
 EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130622

- Solid State Drive
o $124.99 - $20 instant discount - $15 ($89.99) after mail-in rebate
 OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTX40G 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227610

o $129.99 - $10 instant discount ($119.99)
 OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTX50G 2.5" 50GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227528

o $159.99 - $40 instant discount ($119.99)
 OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227542

- Power Supply + CD/DVD
o $110.98 – $25.99 instant discount - $30 ($54.99) after mail-in rebate (Combo)
 OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W Modular High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?SID=u0t3002669f9fp52987dd0c0s701&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&ItemList=Combo.668135

 LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

- Motherboard
o $124.99 – instant discount $10($114.99)
 MSI P67A-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130571&cm_re=P67-_-13-130-571-_-Product

(Note: I have no idea what motherboard to get. Not even an idea.)

- Case
o $139.99 - $20 off w/ promo code EMCKDKA42 ($119.99)
 NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=u0t2970297f9fp0dd0c0s701&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16811146067

This is my first comp build so i don't want to go too crazy over it. I did some reasearch and if anyone has an opinion of this build let me know!

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

June 13 2011 04:21 GMT

#6737

I would definitely change that vid card :

Try to get a 560, or AMD 68xx or 69xx

8gb are not needed. 4gb should be enough for gaming

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

June 13 2011 04:28 GMT

#6738

OCZ power supply are not the best. Try Corsair/Seasonic

The motherbord looks fine. P67 will allow you to overclock.

Oh right, do you plan on overclocking? If not, then getting the I5-2500k may not be the best idea (cost-wise)

I'll let Skyr, and the other experts help ^^

SSJJaedong

United States20 Posts

June 13 2011 04:31 GMT

#6739

Yeah since this is my first build i don't plan on overclocking since my knowledge in that area is quite limited. Would you guys recommend I3 then? Then i could use the money to put towards a better graphics card. My goal is around 700-800 more or less. 900 would be the absolute max though.

Edit: Thanks for the help btw.

XenOmega

Canada2822 Posts

June 13 2011 05:22 GMT

#6740

I5-2500k = one of the best CPU to overclock. If you don't want to overclock at all, an I5-2400, or even 2500 without the K would be better.

I3 are also good for gaming, but only dual core. If you want to save money, I say the I3 isn't a bad idea. If you plan on streaming, then I5 may be better. I'll better people say on this

If you are tight on money, SSD may not be a good idea.

Ram : Any 4 gb will be fine
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253
@ 38.99$

GPU : A 560 like this one would probably do it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127593
@ 216.99$
---> What resolution do you plan on gaming with? Do you want multi monitor build? Or just a single monitor?

Power supply : If you don't plan on overclocking/Having multiple graphic card build (SLI/Crossfire), then I believe around 500-600 watt should be plenty enough.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139019
Corsair at 69.99$

For the Case : Get whatever you want. Just make sure it has plenty of room. This is something you can keep for future build. If you don't plan on keeping the case for future build, then I'll suggest you getting a basic, yet good case.

SSD should never completely replace a normal Hard Drive. Try to get one of the standard hard drive like this Black western digital at 59.99$ (500gb)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136795
Obviously, if you plan on getting a SSD, then you can get a Blue/green HD for storage and to save some money. But if you want to skip the SSD, you should get one of the Black drive.

I5-2400 is clocked at 3.1ghz and is priced at 189.99$.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

If you get the 2400, I'd recommend getting a H67 motherboard. P67/Z68 motherboard allows you to overclock. H67 doesn't. This could help you save a few bucks
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130584
102.99$

Note, if you plan on overclocking, or having multiple Graphic card in your build, do not get the motherboard I've listed, as it can only handle 1 graphic card!

You could save more money if you go for a Micro-ATX motherboard. Micro means that the motherboard will be really small (so instead of having the possibility of having, say 4 slot for memory, you will only have 2)

Well, that's all I can do due to my limited knowledge ^^

To sum up :
SSD can be a luxury. Stick with a standard HD and save money!

Graphic card : 560 is a good card that is about 20$ more expensive than the 460 you've listed. 570 too. 580 is a really good card, but very expensive. You also have some decent graphic on AMD side. Depends if you are a fan of one or another. If you want to run a multiple monitor setting, I would recommend you going with AMD.

Power supply : 700 is too much, and OCZ isn't too reliable, ((what people say). 550-600 should be enough for a normal build, without multiple graphic, without overclock.

Motherboard : You really need to decide if you are going to overclock, if you are going to run more than 1 graphic card, if you are going to have more than 2 memory stick, how many hard drives do you plan on having... After answering these questions, you can easily find the motherboard that suits best your need. No need to overpay for features you will never use!