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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 05:36:17
June 14 2011 05:34 GMT
#6781
GG there

Perhaps i should send an email first to see if they would pricematch?

That said, am I seeing it wrong, or does Best direct really have the 6970 so low?
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/232364/Diamond/6970PE52G/

vs NCIX
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57704&vpn=6970PE52G&manufacture=Diamond

If NCIX accept the pricematch, its basically 310$ for a 6970 2gb
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 14 2011 05:41 GMT
#6782
A single HD6970 isn't going to run Battlefield 3 on max settings on Eyefinity. No way, definitely not going to happen.

If you can't get everything all at once, or pretty damn close to all at once, don't bother.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 14 2011 05:44 GMT
#6783
The mail in rebate ends tomorrow fyi and pricematching isn't instant and you may not have your invoice until the 16th depending on when you order and how busy they are.

A 6970 for $340 isn't shockingly low, especially in Canada =p
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 14 2011 05:56 GMT
#6784


Well, for now, ordering my Heatsink. And will continue to consider what I can get with that 250 gift card ^^
SSJJaedong
Profile Joined December 2009
United States20 Posts
June 14 2011 10:34 GMT
#6785
Thanks again for the help thus far. Here are the things i've bought so far/ am still missing.


Case- Antec Nine Hundred ($68.50) After Tax
Motherboard- MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($154.99) After Tax
GPU- MSI R6850 Cyclone PE Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity ($167.55) After Tax
CPU- Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ($197.09) After Tax
Power Supply-
Heat Sink-
Ram- G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL ($64.99) After Tax
SSD/Hard Drive-
CD/DVD/Blu-Ray-
Total : $653.12

My cousin plans on helping me OC, so i'm debating on which one to get. There is;

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057 and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082&Tpk=Xigmatek gaia

Also, since i do plan on OCing now, what kind of power supply should i plan on?
Long Live Jaedong
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 14 2011 10:37 GMT
#6786
The Xigmatek Gaia is a really good cooler, probably better than the cheap Coolermaster coolers like the Hyper 212+ because they don't have god awful mounting methods. I would get that instead of the Coolermaster cooler you listed.

Please don't get an Antec 900. It is a bad case, I don't care if it has a million positive reviews because you can do better than that.

A good 450W - 500W PSU, like those from the XFX Core series, is all you need provided you're not going to connect 8 hard drives to your computer or something.
SSJJaedong
Profile Joined December 2009
United States20 Posts
June 14 2011 10:41 GMT
#6787
Thanks for the response. I could cancel the order for the case. Is it bad because of the air flow? Or just the design?
Long Live Jaedong
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 10:53:06
June 14 2011 10:51 GMT
#6788
The design is outdated and was frankly never good. Its surprisingly cramp because of the 5.25" mounting supports, noisy like all high airflow cases, doesn't have dust filters, and hard drives are mounted straight onto metal without any dampening.

People need to understand that all gaming cases have basically the same amounts of airflow and benchmarking them is pretty silly because they'll all perform more or less the same if you give all of them identical fans. The only times where it matters is with novel designs like the Silverstone FT03 where you might see whether or not those angled 80mm fans actually do anything.

If you've already ordered and can't get cancel it without paying cancellation fees don't bother because it'll still work well as a case. I don't know how Newegg works with order cancellations because I don't like in the States but I'm guessing they wouldn't be too happy about it.
SSJJaedong
Profile Joined December 2009
United States20 Posts
June 14 2011 10:53 GMT
#6789
Oh ic. I'll give it a shot, i mean i ordered it off office depot cuz i had a giftcard from there lol. would your recommend anything sub $100?
Long Live Jaedong
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 14 2011 11:01 GMT
#6790
Lancool/Lian Li K58/60 (the best tool-less features out there) and Fractal Design Define R3 (very flexible silencing/airflow options, very attractive IMHO) are the best sub-$100 cases I can think of right now.

There are a lot of others, as I said case design is all too similar between companies, out there if you do a bit of research.
SSJJaedong
Profile Joined December 2009
United States20 Posts
June 14 2011 11:02 GMT
#6791
Thanks again!
Long Live Jaedong
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 14 2011 13:23 GMT
#6792
What Womwomwom means is ignore the thermal benchmarks and look at the noise ones in gaming cases. That's where the difference in quality really comes into play.

Check thermal benchies on cases designed for silence, and novelty cases, like Lanboy Air.

Basically, with a case, check the benchmarks and reviews for everything it isn't bragging about.

Unless you're doing multi GPU or heavy OC's, any case with holes and fans in it will stop your PC from frying. Performance only matters much if there's some other factor making temps hard to control.

ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
June 14 2011 14:27 GMT
#6793
Interesting find I thought I'd share with the good people in this thread.

Switched out my Cooler Master Hyper 212 for a Corsair H50. The difference was...negligible. O.o

100% load with Hyper 212 at 3.7 Ghz - 55-60 celcius
100% load with Corsair H50 at 3.7 Ghz - 55-60

So for anyone deciding on aftermarket coolers, the Hyper 212 at like half the cost of the H50 does the job just as well. Of course, with the H50, you're increasing your e-penis size saying that you have liquid cooling, and it is smaller (the 212 may not fit in all cases), but yeah. I was surprised, especially considering how many people on newegg were reporting ridiculously cool temps under load.

Oh, and side effect, since the radiator is taking up one of my case's rear exhaust fans, the inside of my case got considerably hotter with two GPUs under 100% load all the time. before, my 5850's would do their thing and be at about 70. Now one is at 80 and the other is at 90 unless I crank the fan speed up to around 80-90% by overriding the automatic fan control. hah.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 14 2011 14:33 GMT
#6794
That's why we tell people not to waste their time, and just to buy one of the quality inexpensive air coolers.

Oh, and of course, you can avoid even small amounts of plumbing, use less power, and actually, to the initiated, an OC stable on air is more e-peen than one with liquid, especially half-ass liquid like that.

LN2 on the other hand... that's some e-peen.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 14 2011 14:43 GMT
#6795
Didn't we say something like the watercooling being pretty pointless...computer parts don't produce enough heat to use the most of it...I mean some enthusiasts have radiators the size of ones you see in small cars. Of course the difference between coolers is negligible, there's only so many ways you can design a slab of aluminum with heatpipes.

The price you pay for is really mounting method (more expensive coolers, like Noctua and Prolimatech, have extremely easy and consistent mounting methods), form factor, and whether or not you want to run something extremely quietly. The Corsair H50 is meant to be on an intake fan and not on an exhaust fan, which it does really well in small form factor builds that are limited in height.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 14 2011 14:46 GMT
#6796
On June 14 2011 23:43 Womwomwom wrote:
Didn't we say something like the watercooling being pretty pointless...computer parts don't produce enough heat to use the most of it...I mean some enthusiasts have radiators the size of ones you see in small cars. Of course the difference between coolers is negligible, there's only so many ways you can design a slab of aluminum with heatpipes.

The price you pay for is really mounting method (more expensive coolers, like Noctua and Prolimatech, have extremely easy and consistent mounting methods), form factor, and whether or not you want to run something extremely quietly. The Corsair H50 is meant to be on an intake fan and not on an exhaust fan, which it does really well in small form factor builds that are limited in height.


Actually, some enthusiasts DO use radiators from small cars.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
June 14 2011 15:05 GMT
#6797
Haha yeah. Oh wellz. Silly me.

BTW, is a gentle typhoon AP-14 considered an exhaust fan or an intake fan?
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
June 14 2011 15:09 GMT
#6798
There is absolutely no point going watercooling at the moment, since games can't even bring single cards to their knees, same with processors. As such, there is no need to overclock, hence decimates the need for watercooling.

Unless you're a hardware enthusiast/love having huge e-peen, trying to get the highest 3D Mark scores and love overclocking, will you need watercooling.

Btw, interesting news - remember EVGA SR-2?

http://www.techpowerup.com/146970/EVGA-Readies-Dual-LGA2011-X79-Motherboard.html

Imagine that beast folding.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 14 2011 15:09 GMT
#6799
The direction the fan faces determines whether it's exhaust or intake. Generally exhausts and intakes are lined up to move air in one direction.

Exhaust = Pushes air out.
Intake = pulls air in. Crazy.
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
June 14 2011 15:37 GMT
#6800
On June 15 2011 00:09 JingleHell wrote:
The direction the fan faces determines whether it's exhaust or intake. Generally exhausts and intakes are lined up to move air in one direction.

Exhaust = Pushes air out.
Intake = pulls air in. Crazy.


haha. That's what I thought at first, but I thought maybe there were fans specifically designed to do on or the other based on his post. :D I guess I can switch the fan direction around tonight hah
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