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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 12 2011 04:45 GMT
#6661
So i did a few things and now the I5-2500k is idling at around 35 degrees! (I checked the bios, and the multiplier was set at 45 (so technically, it was oced to 4500mghz, although with Core temp, it keeps showing 3.3ghz. Any idea why?)

Running torture test and see if it works
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 12 2011 04:48 GMT
#6662
Ok, at full load with torture test, all cores are at around 60 degrees and none has failed yet!!
So it was never the Stock fan!

But the question remains : why was core temp saying the cpu was at 3.3 if i upped the multiplier to 45 (instead of 33)?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 12 2011 04:50 GMT
#6663
Because Core Temp doesn't show the overclocked speed. It shows what the processor is rated at by Intel which in this case is 3.3GHz. If you want to monitor clock speeds, use CPU-Z.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 04:55:44
June 12 2011 04:52 GMT
#6664
My core temp shows my OCed speed... is that just because I'm on Bloomfield instead of SB?

On June 12 2011 13:48 XenOmega wrote:
Ok, at full load with torture test, all cores are at around 60 degrees and none has failed yet!!
So it was never the Stock fan!

But the question remains : why was core temp saying the cpu was at 3.3 if i upped the multiplier to 45 (instead of 33)?


Was your fan maxing out RPMs? Always good to know.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 12 2011 04:57 GMT
#6665
Yes because you're on Bloomfield =p It doesn't show actual speed for Sandybridge since a 2500k will never be at 3.3GHz unless you disabled SpeedStep.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 12 2011 05:00 GMT
#6666
On June 12 2011 13:57 skyR wrote:
Yes because you're on Bloomfield =p It doesn't show actual speed for Sandybridge since a 2500k will never be at 3.3GHz unless you disabled SpeedStep.


Ah, fair nuff. Course, I disabled SpeedStep too, but still, Bloomfield. Made of win, just not quite as much win as the things made of more win afterwards.

The great thing is, that nice stock speed he's incorrectly displaying is only slightly below my almost 25% OC... of course, that's mostly me not wanting to overvolt, because my wife would kill me.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 12 2011 05:00 GMT
#6667
So basically, this means that with stock heatsink, i am not able to OC to 45 multiplier

What do you think a safe OC would be?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 12 2011 05:02 GMT
#6668
On June 12 2011 14:00 XenOmega wrote:
So basically, this means that with stock heatsink, i am not able to OC to 45 multiplier

What do you think a safe OC would be?


Did you actually set the voltage manually or have any idea what the voltage was at when you were at 4.5GHz?
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 12 2011 05:07 GMT
#6669
It was on auto. Still new to this OC world, and I believe I've read somewhere that Volt is the only thing that can damage a CPU...

That said, the temperature was too high with 45 multiplier. So even though i was not able to have it stable enough for a torture test, it was still too hot. Unless upping the voltage would lower the temperature, but that wouldnt make sense...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 05:10:13
June 12 2011 05:09 GMT
#6670
On June 12 2011 14:07 XenOmega wrote:
It was on auto. Still new to this OC world, and I believe I've read somewhere that Volt is the only thing that can damage a CPU...

That said, the temperature was too high with 45 multiplier. So even though i was not able to have it stable enough for a torture test, it was still too hot. Unless upping the voltage would lower the temperature, but that wouldnt make sense...


Auto voltage is a terrible idea in general. It will either be too low for stability or possibly too high, causing excess heat. Or there's a slim chance it will actually be right, but that's about as likely as me winning TSL4.

And I'm a bronze league fail type.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 12 2011 05:12 GMT
#6671
Well, what is the correct voltage O.o?

Anywhere where i can get a table of Voltage + clock speed?

IE : 3.3ghz (stock) = X voltage
3.4 = Y voltage...

That would be helpful ^^
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 12 2011 05:13 GMT
#6672
Try 45 at 1.3v and see if you boot. If it boots, stress test for stability and temperatures. If it doesn't boot, lower multiplier to 44 and so on until it boots.

Mine is set to 44 at 1.24v (which is stock voltage for me).
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 05:15:09
June 12 2011 05:14 GMT
#6673
On June 12 2011 14:12 XenOmega wrote:
Well, what is the correct voltage O.o?

Anywhere where i can get a table of Voltage + clock speed?

IE : 3.3ghz (stock) = X voltage
3.4 = Y voltage...

That would be helpful ^^


It varies by individual batch.

You're reaching the point where the best you can do is google and pick the most consistent answer, unless skyR's played with higher voltages.

You can usually get a decent performance gain at stock though. My 2.8ghz 930 is at 3.4 and stock volts. But that thing OC's completely differently, apples and oranges.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 12 2011 05:20 GMT
#6674
Oh, but when you say stock volt, you mean the recommended voltage, and not having it on Auto, right?

Robert
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 12 2011 05:21 GMT
#6675
Stock voltage is what the processor would be at for stock clocks.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 12 2011 05:46 GMT
#6676
Upped to 40, didn't touch the volt. 1.288 right now and it seems stable. Temperature are at 75 when tortured by the test
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 12 2011 05:51 GMT
#6677
On June 12 2011 14:46 XenOmega wrote:
Upped to 40, didn't touch the volt. 1.288 right now and it seems stable. Temperature are at 75 when tortured by the test


That's a bit warmer than I like to see, but if you're on stock air, I guess it makes sense. But then, normal use won't put it to full load. I'd be a little paranoid leaving it running overnight for stability testing though.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 12 2011 05:58 GMT
#6678
Yea, it just hit 80, so i stopped all the test.

What are my best option for cooling? I'm using the Azza Solano case and was always under the impression that the case was good for cooling... Due to the side fan, the heatsink is limited to height of 150mm or under, so that cuts Hyper 212+. Not sure what are my best options.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
June 12 2011 05:59 GMT
#6679
When do we start seeing a difference with the clock speed? Like, any real gain from 3.3 to 3.4? Any gain from 3.3 to 4?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 06:02:24
June 12 2011 06:01 GMT
#6680
On June 12 2011 14:58 XenOmega wrote:
Yea, it just hit 80, so i stopped all the test.

What are my best option for cooling? I'm using the Azza Solano case and was always under the impression that the case was good for cooling... Due to the side fan, the heatsink is limited to height of 150mm or under, so that cuts Hyper 212+. Not sure what are my best options.


The case being good for cooling just means you get better airflow to your CPU cooler. A stock cooler sucks for OCing, because it's not designed to cool it more efficiently than it's expected to need.

You see more gains the more you OC. The gains are dependent on what you're doing with the CPU.
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