EPTOn June 11 2011 20:55 Alexl wrote:
get an asus or gigabyte mobo instead of asrock
get an asus or gigabyte mobo instead of asrock
Asrock is owned by ASUS fyi... -_-
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Asrock is owned by ASUS fyi... -_- | ||
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Quanbsn
Vietnam18 Posts
Budget: 500$-750$ Resolution: low, right now i use 1280x720 on 16.4 inches monitor, i don't know what will fit my eyes on 21.5 inches monitor. I also use low graphic quality. Using it for: mostly starcraft 2 with musing playing background. Upgrade cycle: about 2 years, as long as it can handle any SC2 expansions When to start: from now to the end of the month. Overclocking: No. OS: yes, i do need. Add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire: No. Market: US Addition: I can save my budget on HDD, i already have a HDD but i don't have its sata cable. I also need a wireless adapter. Thank you for helping me ! | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
CPU - Intel i5 2400 Motherboard - ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM GPU - ASUS CuCore Series EAH5770 Case + PSU - Antec New Solution NSK3480 w/ 380W Earthwatts PSU Memory - G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) Total - $508 minus shipping If you are a student, buy Win 7 from here. Else buy Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit from Newegg. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
asrock is their cheaper subsidiary :D at the 100-150 USD range it's not that bad usually their boards are shorter on the feature set but are good in the parts that matter for the oc crowd. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
I mean c'mon is buying a pre-built computer from a store that horrific? I mean its quite clear to me now of the money that I can save by building a computer myself, but from what I've gathered from people's posts I'm getting the message that it's financial suicide to buy ANY computer from the store. Throw aside the "it's your money, do whatever the hell you want with it" reply. Although I'm definitely technologically enlightened by taking time to thoroughly read through this forum (you guys are awesome), I'm still unclear about the underlying attitude of computer enthusiasts toward people who have money yet are not as dedicated to produce a respectable rig with their given budget. Or to be more blunt, are you guys elitist or just giving people some of the good 'ol tough love? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 12 2011 04:01 Snuggles wrote: You know what... after browsing through countless threads and reading different posts about throwing together parts in order to make the best computer possible with a given budget I find myself very very irritated at the fact that if I were to buy a brand name computer from a store all the computer enthusiasts in world point and laugh (and possibly throw stones) at my decision... I mean c'mon is buying a pre-built computer from a store that horrific? I mean its quite clear to me now of the money that I can save by building a computer myself, but from what I've gathered from people's posts I'm getting the message that it's financial suicide to buy ANY computer from the store. Throw aside the "it's your money, do whatever the hell you want with it" reply. Although I'm definitely technologically enlightened by taking time to thoroughly read through this forum (you guys are awesome), I'm still unclear about the underlying attitude of computer enthusiasts toward people who have money yet are not as dedicated to produce a respectable rig with their given budget. Or to be more blunt, are you guys elitist or just giving people some of the good 'ol tough love? Here's a better question. If you ask for advice, and don't like the advice you get, it's your decision whether to follow it or not. But if you ask for advice and get good advice, why would you complain? Pre-built computers are shit for gaming. End of story. Building a PC is easy, buying a pre-built is a waste of money, and anyone who wants the best for their money doesn't want a pre-built. They come here asking for the best for their money, and that's what they get. It isn't elitism, elitism would be mocking them for not knowing better, we enlighten them. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Spending extra megabucks at Apple or Puget Systems is fine, I personally wouldn't laugh or berate you because those guys give you what no one else can give you (awesome form factors, custom build system with quiet computing mods already installed, quality parts, awesome customer service and warranty). | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
On June 12 2011 04:05 JingleHell wrote: Here's a better question. If you ask for advice, and don't like the advice you get, it's your decision whether to follow it or not. But if you ask for advice and get good advice, why would you complain? Pre-built computers are shit for gaming. End of story. Building a PC is easy, buying a pre-built is a waste of money, and anyone who wants the best for their money doesn't want a pre-built. They come here asking for the best for their money, and that's what they get. It isn't elitism, elitism would be mocking them for not knowing better, we enlighten them. Well let's just be clear that I'm not complaining at all. From my experience the harsher and more blunt the advice is the better. Thanks to your help and a few others I think I saved myself a good sum of money so I'm quite happy right now. I was just curious about people's attitude towards people like me who just aren't as dedicated to making the best out of their budget when it comes to computers. I'm asking here and now because I've received the same sort of attitude along the lines of "No dude, don't buy that it's fucking complete shit" irl, face-to-face on multiple occasions whenever I try to make comparisons. I mean they would proceed to explain to me why and what I should really buy but after the whole ordeal I would always be left thinking "Geez, I loved the advice but totally did not expect such a strong response". And now that I have witnessed it online as well I'm just like fuck it, why don't I just ask straight up so I don't have any misunderstandings. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if its just elitism, but I guess its just the way people are enlightened when it comes to computers. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
"Oh, no, it's probably a bad idea..." or "Well, if you're lucky, your car will just run like shit, but it's a stupid idea." | ||
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Blitz
United States706 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 12 2011 04:41 MiserablyMe wrote: Hi, I'm looking to buy a CPU around 400-600 is my budget. I want to be able to run SC2 on at least medium relatively smoothly. I already have a monitor. Any thoughts? What is your current motherboard? ... | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
I ignored the fact that I have a few car enthusiastic friends who have a wide variety of reactions. Some of them will really lash out and come after you, some will just shake their heads, some will kindly guide you in the right direction... yeah I feel really silly just pinning to computer people. But still asking is better than being the ignorant fool... | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 12 2011 04:46 Snuggles wrote: Yeah, thinking it through it just depends on each person's temperament rather than just isolating it to the computer enthusiast community. I ignored the fact that I have a few car enthusiastic friends who have a wide variety of reactions. Some of them will really lash out and come after you, some will just shake their heads, some will kindly guide you in the right direction... yeah I feel really silly just pinning to computer people. But still asking is better than being the ignorant fool... Basically, the way I see it, it's not elitism if they're willing to provide the information. Most people that care a lot about a subject will react strongly to bad advice/decisions related to that subject. Sports fans will go insane at a bad play choice. Audiophiles will rip your throat out for not having gold plated connectors. Wine enthusiasts will turn their nose up when you suggest a dry red with chicken (maybe?). And when it comes to trying to make a point, well, when you can't use inflection to show scorn, vehement rhetoric becomes the next best method. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
However, if you already bothered asking here, that means that you're probably looking for a better deal. On a side note, I've got to say that audiophiles are among the more insane groups, particularly since many don't believe in science, engineering, blind testing, or measurements. This is coming from someone with "audiophile-grade" headphones. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 12 2011 05:16 Myrmidon wrote: Well, you can't be an expert at everything, or optimize all of your life. If you've got the money, there's no shame in taking the easy option. Some people use software that costs several times what high-end workstation computers do (the ones with like dual Xeons and ECC RAM). The cost of a computer is really not that high in the grand scheme of things. Anybody remember when the typical home PCs were like $4000? Also, time = money and all. But there are still better options (e.g. Puget, Apple, as Womwomwom mentioned) even if you have the cash. However, if you already bothered asking here, that means that you're probably looking for a better deal. On a side note, I've got to say that audiophiles are among the more insane groups, particularly since many don't believe in science, engineering, blind testing, or measurements. This is coming from someone with "audiophile-grade" headphones. Double blind tests have this nasty tendency not to back up subjective impressions that go well with snobbery. I've met some audiophiles who aren't like that, but generally I just avoid the subject entirely with them. | ||
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Parj
France55 Posts
On June 12 2011 04:01 Snuggles wrote: You know what... after browsing through countless threads and reading different posts about throwing together parts in order to make the best computer possible with a given budget I find myself very very irritated at the fact that if I were to buy a brand name computer from a store all the computer enthusiasts in world point and laugh (and possibly throw stones) at my decision... I mean c'mon is buying a pre-built computer from a store that horrific? I mean its quite clear to me now of the money that I can save by building a computer myself, but from what I've gathered from people's posts I'm getting the message that it's financial suicide to buy ANY computer from the store. Throw aside the "it's your money, do whatever the hell you want with it" reply. Although I'm definitely technologically enlightened by taking time to thoroughly read through this forum (you guys are awesome), I'm still unclear about the underlying attitude of computer enthusiasts toward people who have money yet are not as dedicated to produce a respectable rig with their given budget. Or to be more blunt, are you guys elitist or just giving people some of the good 'ol tough love? You know there's a war between computer constructors. So disinformation is a part of this battle. The most difficult things is to find informations about testing all this stuffs "in vivo". A example.After a couple years of new generations CPU, we've seen so many CPU, sockets, architectures, and of couse prices évolutions. http://www.hardware.fr/articles/778-16/rapport-performance-prix.html Core i5 2400 (socket-1155) has same perfs than a Core i7-970 (Socket-1366) for half price. And there's tons of example like this one. So why do you want to pay double price?All this guys are not elitist, but i guess the majority of the TL commnity is young and they have less money to spend. For me at this moment the best reasonnable build for 3600$ + Show Spoiler + CPU:Core i7-2600K MOBO:MSI Bingbang Marshall GPU:2xMSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II in SLI RAM:Corsair or G skill 4x4GB 1600MHz minimum and G.Skill Turbulence Fan II HDD:Western Digital Caviar Black SATA Revision 3.0 - 1 To - 64 Mo SDD:Crucial M4 128 Go SATA Revision 3.0 Blue ray: Buffalo Technology BR3D-12U3 3DTV-Tuner: Case: Cooler Master HAF X PWR: Antec HCP - 850W Watercooling:Antec Kühler H2O 920 You'll have easy and secure overclocking for a stable system, very high quality in games, 3D TV, Blue-ray read an write, fast transfers in USB 3.0 in any situations (SDD+2HDD in RAID). So i checked Alienware, US-sites, EU-sites for pre-build computers and i never found equivalent for this price. If you want to buy a pre-build pc, give us the link to which one it is please so we can show you where is the trap. | ||
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SoKHo
Korea (South)1081 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On June 12 2011 05:47 SoKHo wrote: hey guys my brother wants to build a PC and he wants to hook it up to his TV. His budget is about 800-900 dollars (no OS). he wants to mainly use it for gaming. Thanks in advance US prices or what? I forgot. I'm copy and pasting from another thread... Core i5-2400 and Asus GTX 560 Ti DirectCU 900 MHz - $432 ($412 AMIR), use stock CPU cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.662691 AsRock H61M/U3S3 - $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 G.Skill 2 x 4GB DDR3 RAM - $60 after promo code! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $44 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073 Samsung CD / DVD-RW - $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233 XFX Core Edition 450W - $55 ($45 AMIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Cooler Master HAF 912 - $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Is a monitor needed? If not and if he wants to get in the price range, an SSD may be a worthwhile investment. There's not much better gaming performance you will get for the money by upgrading the CPU or GPU. Crucial m4 64GB - $120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 | ||
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