EPTIf it's not the chipset or an issue with the motherboard, it sounds like maybe your storage HDDs are spinning down and then need to wait 4-5 seconds to spin back up when you need to access something on it. That's about how long it takes for an older drive to spin up, and you said you're hearing hard drive noise, so that'd be my guess. You can try changing power management settings for the drives. CrystalDiskInfo and other HDD monitoring/tuning programs let you change the "advanced power management."
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
If it's not the chipset or an issue with the motherboard, it sounds like maybe your storage HDDs are spinning down and then need to wait 4-5 seconds to spin back up when you need to access something on it. That's about how long it takes for an older drive to spin up, and you said you're hearing hard drive noise, so that'd be my guess. You can try changing power management settings for the drives. CrystalDiskInfo and other HDD monitoring/tuning programs let you change the "advanced power management." | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
On May 31 2011 11:40 skyR wrote: The difference between E5700 and the Sandybridge Pentium should be similar to what you see between a core i5 750 and core i5 2400. Pretty noticeable in layman's terms. A Sandybridge Pentium for $74 along with an Asrock H61M-VS or equivalent for $60 would be a total of $134. The Core i3 2100 bundle for $159 is a pretty good deal though. All Sandybridge processors have integrated graphics which requires a H61, H67, or Z68 motherboard to be used. The ones found on the lower end processors will definitely not be capable of smooth gameplay at 1080p, even on low settings. Would it be wise to downgrade the monitor? (say getting a lower resolution with a 20 inches?) How about standard Youtube/movie. Would the integrated GPU be enough to run 1080? | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On May 31 2011 11:40 skyR wrote: The difference between E5700 and the Sandybridge Pentium should be similar to what you see between a core i5 750 and core i5 2400. Pretty noticeable in layman's terms. A Sandybridge Pentium for $74 along with an Asrock H61M-VS or equivalent for $60 would be a total of $134. The Core i3 2100 bundle for $159 is a pretty good deal though. All Sandybridge processors have integrated graphics which requires a H61, H67, or Z68 motherboard to be used. The ones found on the lower end processors will definitely not be capable of smooth gameplay at 1080p, even on low settings. Do you happen to know if the clock speeds of the processor will throttle the clock speeds of the IGP? I know that Turbo affects the IGP in addition to the CPU, but only if the CPU itself is not fully loaded. Theoretically, doesn't that mean the HD Graphics 2000 found on the Pentium would be identical to the HD 2000 found on the i5-2500 so long as the processor itself is not a bottleneck? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On May 31 2011 12:40 XenOmega wrote: Would it be wise to downgrade the monitor? (say getting a lower resolution with a 20 inches?) How about standard Youtube/movie. Would the integrated GPU be enough to run 1080? Any modern processor is capable of handling 1080p playback quite well by itself without a discrete graphics card. I hate small resolutions so I'm not the best person to ask but even a 20" comes at a 1680x1050 resolution or so, which would still be too much for the integrated graphics to handle gaming smoothly. You can just purchase the motherboard and processor to start off with. If your friend's girlfriend complains about poor performance, then you can look into a discrete graphics card On May 31 2011 12:40 Zeke50100 wrote: Do you happen to know if the clock speeds of the processor will throttle the clock speeds of the IGP? I know that Turbo affects the IGP in addition to the CPU, but only if the CPU itself is not fully loaded. Theoretically, doesn't that mean the HD Graphics 2000 found on the Pentium would be identical to the HD 2000 found on the i5-2500 so long as the processor itself is not a bottleneck? I don't really keep up with integrated graphics but I know that the Sandybridge processor clock speed and IGP clock speed is independent of one another. The Sandybridge Pentiums also do not come with HD 2000 but rather a gimped variant of it. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On May 31 2011 10:08 skyR wrote: The P8P67 LE is a pretty bad board so I won't be surprised if it's a motherboard problem. I had a similar issue with my ASUS P8P67 B2, the sound would just randomly become slowed-down / choppy for a few seconds. I didn't find out what the cause was before RMAing for B3. I'd make sure that your chipset drivers are up to date: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/ Just wondering if this problem was present before you overclocked your processor? If not or you didn't have the chance to find out, I'd revert back to stock settings for now. Are you using the Intel SATA ports (white & light blue)? If not, you should switch your harddrives over to them, the Marvell ports (dark blue) aren't that great unfortunately. Chipset drivers were up to date. I don't recall having the problem before overclocking, but I'm not 100% sure. In the least, it has become more apparent since overclocking. My SSD has been using a Marvell 6Gbps port, but the rest were on Intel. I'll swap it over, thanks. edit: Oh, and on a potentially related note, when I start up my computer, it runs for 4-5 seconds before powering down, where it shortly starts up again another 2-3 seconds later and continues to boot normally. This has been happening since around the time the stalling problem became apparent. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Sandy Bridge CPU and IGP clock speeds are controlled separately, but they are related in that total power draw and temperature for the package need to remain within specified limits. If there is a 100% load on the CPU, the IGP will not be able to clock up as high. Pentium G620 and the other Sandy Bridge Pentiums have a nominal Intel Graphics 2000 at 850 MHz (Turbo max 1100 MHz). That's the same 6 execution unit part in the i5-2500. The i5-2500's IGP is also clocked at 850 MHz with Turbo max to 1100 MHz, though a few other processors have a bit different speeds. The G620 has a TDP of 65W while the i5-2500 has a TDP of 95W. I suspect that if you're running a game or something that heavily loads two CPU cores on each the G620 and i5-2500, the G620's IGP will not be able to sustain high Turbo speeds, while the i5-2500 while have more TDP in reserve for the IGP to Turbo up since its two idle cores don't take the 30W difference. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On May 31 2011 13:04 Grobyc wrote: Chipset drivers were up to date. edit: Oh, and on a potentially related note, when I start up my computer, it runs for 4-5 seconds before powering down, where it shortly starts up again another 2-3 seconds later and continues to boot normally. This has been happening since around the time the stalling problem became apparent. The double boot issue is another issue related to the ASUS P8P67 series of boards. It's explained here by an ASUS rep: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578675 On May 31 2011 13:07 Myrmidon wrote: Pentium G620 and the other Sandy Bridge Pentiums have a nominal Intel Graphics 2000 at 850 MHz (Turbo max 1100 MHz). That's the same 6 execution unit part in the i5-2500. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On May 31 2011 13:20 skyR wrote: Only high-end Pentiums have HD 2000, all the other ones such as the G620 have regular HD Graphics: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=53480 I'm not sure how much worse these are from the HD 2000 though. Oh whoops, good catch. I guess I was looking at outdated previous speculation. I wonder what else was gimped. Fewer execution units than HD 2000? | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On May 31 2011 13:20 skyR wrote: The double boot issue is another issue related to the ASUS P8P67 series of boards. It's explained here by an ASUS rep: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578675 Only high-end Pentiums have HD 2000, all the other ones such as the G620 have regular HD Graphics: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=53480 I'm not sure how much worse these are from the HD 2000 though. It seems the IGP clock speed on the G620 is 850 MHz, which is identical to the base speed listed for the HD 2000. I doubt they actually put just Intel HD Graphics (or Intel GMA HD; the ones from Clarkdale and Arrandale processors) on a Sandy Bridge processor, which is much worse than the HD 2000. It seems as though the HD Graphics 2000 on the Pentiums are just normal 2000s with fewer features (Clear Video and whatnot). Of course, they lack Turbo Boost (which I somehow forgot >.<), so it would inherently be worse than an i5. It should still be more powerful than GMA HD, though (which means playable framerates in SC2). | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
And I was mistaken when I said HD 2000 only appears on higher end Pentiums. All of them have the same HD graphics. | ||
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Dhays9
United States51 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236067 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236099 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236051 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005195 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824113024 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 If these aren't suitable for your wants, you're going to have to be more specific =\ | ||
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Dhays9
United States51 Posts
On May 31 2011 14:01 JingleHell wrote: @dhays9 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049 and Skyr Thank you, if I was to be specific it was that I need it to be used for t.v. also but it isn't the biggest necessity.. | ||
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United States11308 Posts
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Dhays9
United States51 Posts
On May 31 2011 14:04 JingleHell wrote: You can also opt for the opposite, find a decent HDTV on sale and use it as a monitor... my wife got me a 32" vizio for my PC for christmas. I felt like such a tool, only buying her a new video card, compared to that. Thank you, doing this I think I found what I would need: Coby 19" Class (18.5" Diag.) 720p LCD HDTV TFTV1925 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889136048 | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 31 2011 14:12 Dhays9 wrote: Thank you, doing this I think I found what I would need: Coby 19" Class (18.5" Diag.) 720p LCD HDTV TFTV1925 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889136048 Response time might give you mild input lag. I'd suggest checking for reviews of people who did it before making the purchase, just to be safe. | ||
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Squishy-1
United States30 Posts
 Though I do have a problem, my monitor can only connect to my computer via my video cards hdmi port. The motherboard works fine, the usb's and audio jacks and ethernet ports all work, but I cant use its HDMI or VGA. I thought it might be a driver issue or something but I went to MSI's website and I had all the most recent drivers and bios. Do you know of anything that might fix this? I would like to use my vga because this is making it so my PS3 and computer cant be running at the same time. Thanks again. -edit- Also, I got my monitor for 120$ its a 21.5' led samsung with 2 hdmi a vga and some other port I dont use. | ||
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