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GTR
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
Purpose: General computing, moderate gaming, heavy multimedia(photoshop, 3d modeling) Have/will have: CPU: i5-2500k ~$200 HSF: Corsair H50 ~ 40 GPU: Waiting on sub 100 PSU: OCZ 600W ~ 50 RAM: 8GB ~ 80 Considering: Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 vs. ASRock Z68 PRO3-M ~ 120 Case, Optical drive, HDD will be recycled from previous system. Total: ~$590 Mobos are mATX so I'd like to get an mATX case eventually but I can hold off on this upgrade. Any recommendations on a mATX case that can house a GTX 460 sized card + PSU? I'd like to take advantage of the Z68 features (overclock+IGP+quicksync) unless someone can make a case against it at $120, I see no reason to go P67/H67. Will this config be able to do a 3 monitor setup(2 on GTX 460, 1 on IGP)? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
If you're looking at large resolution multi-monitor, AMD is destroying Nvidia right now. 460 is a solid card, but it just doesn't have the muscle for smashing super high graphics at super high resolutions in more intense games. For non-gaming purposes, it wouldn't break a sweat, but pretty much any modern card could say that. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Lian Li PC A04 is the only mATX case I know off the top of my head that will fit a GTX 460 (and bigger) sized graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112315 It's possible to use three monitors with the GTX 460 and Z68. Virtu will automatically switch between the Sandybridge IGP and GTX 460 for what you are doing. edit: I forgot to mention that you shouldn't get that power supply as 600w is unnecessary. A core i5 2500k uses around 60w under full load and a GTX 460 uses around 140w under full load so this type of configuration is going to have a hard time exceeding 300w under load. A XFX Core Edition 450w for $45 after mail in rebate provides more than enough power for such a configuration: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:47 skyR wrote: Go with an 2500k + Asrock Z68 Pro-M bundle: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.651992 Lian Li PC A04 is the only mATX case I know off the top of my head that will fit a GTX 460 (and bigger) sized graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112315 It's possible to use three monitors with the GTX 460 and Z68. Virtu will automatically switch between the Sandybridge IGP and GTX 460 for what you are doing. Nice, thought that had been done away with. Good to see they brought it back. Still, 460 and gaming in higher resolutions you'll take a hit on graphics settings or suffer in FPS. AMD is really the better option usually right now for larger multi-monitor setups, unless something changed in the last few weeks. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
BEWARE : It is a long text... AND this is not your typical post about how to build the best PC for a certain amount of money! First things first : -She has no budget limitations, but would prefer to spend as little as possible. -She plays games, but is no gamer. The game she is playing (from time to time) is Age of Empire. Not even sure which one it is (first one? last one?). So GPU isn't really needed... She does youtube/watch movie and video alot. She wants to be able to watch in HD. -She wants it to look good... I have no idea what that means for a woman... but I'd like to try this challenge, and thus I am seeking your advices! Her favourite colour is blue, and she wants her computer to be as good looking (blue) as possible) ------------------ That said, I've started thinking about the build... I was thinking of getting her: *NCIX Bundle Deal Intel Core i3 2100 Dual Core Processor & MSI H61M-P21 DDR3 Motherboard at 159$ Not sure if AMD would be a better option (to save money), considering how little power she needs. But I believe Sandy Bridge will give her more room, should she wishes to play 'better' games in the future. My friend just got Starcraft 2. Maybe he will get her to play it... CPU Fan : i was thinking of getting a CPU heatsynk Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA1155 LGA1156 120MM. I heard they can be pricematched to like 20$ I believe you can put 2 fans on this!! If true, then we could get 2x 120mm Blue led fans! Monitor 23 inches ASUS VH236H 23 Widescreen LCD Monitor Black 1920X1080 16  2MS 20000:1DC HDMI DVI VGA With Speakers at 139$ (after 20 mir)I am no expert in the Monitor market... but since I own one, and it seems to be decent, why not get it? Also, at 159 (or 139 after mir), this seems like a decent deal to get the 1080p. Also, this Asus has a blue light (for its power), so we're already starting to get some blue out of her build!! Some of the ultra slim screens do look really nice though. Would you recommand one of them over this VH236H? Any suggestions are welcome! HDD + Ram : I'll probably get her basic HD and basic Memory... Although, there are some RAM that are blue!!! GPU : None, as explained above. Though, I'm not sure if integrated GPU with the SB is enough for her needs... PSU : Probably a simple PSU, unless some brand makes blue led PSU... ----------------------------- Now, to the look good part... Mouse/KEYBOARD : I can get a standard mouse/keyboard combo for cheap OR, we can find some of the good looking blue led keyboard/mouse. Any suggestions. Again, budget is not a problem, but the cheapest things out there that has the blue shiny stuff would be best! Case : This is very tricky. I was thinking of getting a case (mid-full) with tons of Blue LED fans or with some decent amount of expansions for fans. Maybe some of the AZZA? Also, a side panel is a must! She must be able to see how amazing it looks inside her computer ^^ Any suggestions? If there are rooms, I'll probably throw in some of the BLUE led fan to add more colours! So guys, and girls, ready to help me on this crazy quest? Let's build the 'blue-est' computer ever built! Thank you very much! I'll be using NCIX again for my purchase Robert | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Antec 902 is a shiny blue case, Apevia also has some reasonably inexpensive cases with pretty LED fans and acrylic windows. Not remotely silent or performance cases, but for shiney factor they work. (My wife is using one, since she's less hardcore of a gamer/tinkerer than me.) Just don't use any PSU that comes with an Apevia case. Apevia PSU's are the turds bugs drop after eating shit. Sandy Bridge Pentium processor would be my suggestion. You can combo one with a mobo, get 4GB RAM, and a ~$70 GPU for decent performance along those lines. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The Antec Truepower New 750w also has a variant that comes with a blue LED fan. This is unnecessary but it has blue I guess and could be kept for future configurations >.> Yes, the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ can be pricematched to $22: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC8843 Antec 902 would be the bluest case I can think of with a side panel window. There's also a blue variant of the Coolermaster HAF. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
Or, any other Heatsynk that can allow us to put some fans on them? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
It definitely won't be powerful enough for 1920x1080 on modern games. I'd look into getting a Radeon 5670 for around $70. The Coolermaster Hyper 212+ isn't a big heatsink and will fit in most (if not all) mid-tower cases. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 01 2011 12:18 skyR wrote: Here's a review showing the performance of the HD2000 (the IGP found on the core i3 2100): http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/11 It definitely won't be powerful enough for 1920x1080 on modern games. I'd look into getting a Radeon 5670 for around $70. The Coolermaster Hyper 212+ isn't a big heatsink and will fit in most (if not all) mid-tower cases. It's not big, but it is tall. 160mm, I believe. Can be a tight squeeze if there's side fans. It actually blocks some of the fan mounting positions in the Lanboy Air. Add in push/pull fans, and it gets fairly wide, too. It's a full tower, so no excuse not to have the clearance, unless that big-ass side fan blocks the cooler. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
 This does look very interesting though! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019 | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Review of the cooler. Kind of pricey for the performance it gives, but if you're looking at it purely as an aesthetic component, and not OCing should be fine for that. | ||
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:47 skyR wrote: Go with an 2500k + Asrock Z68 Pro-M bundle: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.651992 Lian Li PC A04 is the only mATX case I know off the top of my head that will fit a GTX 460 (and bigger) sized graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112315 It's possible to use three monitors with the GTX 460 and Z68. Virtu will automatically switch between the Sandybridge IGP and GTX 460 for what you are doing. edit: I forgot to mention that you shouldn't get that power supply as 600w is unnecessary. A core i5 2500k uses around 60w under full load and a GTX 460 uses around 140w under full load so this type of configuration is going to have a hard time exceeding 300w under load. A XFX Core Edition 450w for $45 after mail in rebate provides more than enough power for such a configuration: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Thanks for the tips guys. Concerning the PSU, I'll be OCing as safe as the H50 allows. Does the XFX 450W has enough headroom for OCing as well as potential upgrades? SDD, HDD, maybe SLI(unlikely depending on space). The Lian Li is too pricey for me. Will stick with a standard ATX case for the time being. I'm not as as concerned about 3 monitor gaming, just more screen real estate. It's good to know z68 + 1 nvidia can do 3 monitors. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 01 2011 12:43 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Thanks for the tips guys. Concerning the PSU, I'll be OCing as safe as the H50 allows. Does the XFX 450W has enough headroom for OCing as well as potential upgrades? SDD, HDD, maybe SLI(unlikely depending on space). The Lian Li is too pricey for me. Will stick with a standard ATX case for the time being. I'm not as as concerned about 3 monitor gaming, just more screen real estate. It's good to know z68 + 1 nvidia can do 3 monitors. Generally, storage isn't going to be what pulls you past your PSU's limits. Reasonable overclocks won't push the PSU too far, SLI certainly would, but if you're looking at SLI 460's, get a single 570 for roughly the same price, same graphics performance, and better thermals, acoustics, and power draw, with none of the SLI headaches. | ||
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iinsom
Australia339 Posts
On June 01 2011 11:51 JingleHell wrote: Nice, thought that had been done away with. Good to see they brought it back. Still, 460 and gaming in higher resolutions you'll take a hit on graphics settings or suffer in FPS. AMD is really the better option usually right now for larger multi-monitor setups, unless something changed in the last few weeks. I have 460GTX in sli, and it does fine at 1920x1080 resolutions (I play bc2 and sc2 mainly) but for anything higher then that, then id be looking at the newer range of cards, however i find nvidia to be better then amd currently for multi monitor gaming, but thats just me | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 01 2011 12:51 iinsom wrote: I have 460GTX in sli, and it does fine at 1920x1080 resolutions (I play bc2 and sc2 mainly) but for anything higher then that, then id be looking at the newer range of cards, however i find nvidia to be better then amd currently for multi monitor gaming, but thats just me I was specifically referring to single 460 setups, and 1080p isn't what most people mean by super high resolutions. I'm using 460 SLI on 1080p myself, and know what it can do. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU11/196 And of course, it really comes down to a game-by-game basis, like all things GPU, but frequently, AMD does better once you get above 1080p and turn on the eye candy. Edit: Particularly in price/performance. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On June 01 2011 12:43 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Thanks for the tips guys. Concerning the PSU, I'll be OCing as safe as the H50 allows. Does the XFX 450W has enough headroom for OCing as well as potential upgrades? SDD, HDD, maybe SLI(unlikely depending on space). The Lian Li is too pricey for me. Will stick with a standard ATX case for the time being. I'm not as as concerned about 3 monitor gaming, just more screen real estate. It's good to know z68 + 1 nvidia can do 3 monitors. Yes the PSU is enough with overclocking and adding several drives. SLI is no go, though that's not a great option in general and particularly not for a mATX build where the cards would be sandwiched together. NXZT Vulcan is a cheaper mATX case that fits the longest graphics cards. Note that the hard drive cage is short, so the graphics cards have clearance all the way up to the front fan. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146065 On June 01 2011 11:56 XenOmega wrote: -She wants it to look good... I have no idea what that means for a woman... but I'd like to try this challenge, and thus I am seeking your advices! Her favourite colour is blue, and she wants her computer to be as good looking (blue) as possible) Did she specifically ask for the computer to be as blue or possible, or was that inferred based on the favorite color? Anyway, I would reconsider the kind of gaming cases people have been mentioning so far. Obviously we're all guessing and this depends a lot on the woman in question, but I don't think a big slab of metal and plastic with lots of holes/windows/lights may be that appealing. Many people are not interested in looking inside and seeing big PCBs, wires, fans, etc. I think you're better off going with something safer looking if there is any doubt. Since the computer will not need to be very powerful and for different aesthetics, I'd suggest a smaller form factor build, based off of a mini-ITX motherboard. Those are smaller and cuter I guess. Aftermarket CPU heatsink was probably unnecessary anyway, though there are smaller ones that would work for a build like this. Something like one of those Silverstone Sugo would work well if you want to use a discrete graphics card. Add LED lighting on the inside maybe, or replace the front fan with a blue LED model. One of the Antec ISK would work if you don't use a discrete GPU. | ||
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