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.Mystic
Canada486 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
What do crashes mean? Do you get an access violation error? What does the blue screen say and when do these happen? Have you monitored processor and graphics card temperature during load? | ||
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percy
Australia17 Posts
Budget: $350 Resolution: 1920x1080 Usage: gaming, streaming (min graphics) When: asap Overclocking: no OS: no 2nd GPU: no Where from: http://www.pcdiy.com.au/ad/Pricelist.pdf thank you! | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Motherboard: ASROCK H61M-S ($89) Video Card: POWERCOLOR HD5670 ($70) Total: $346 Make sure you have DDR3 memory before getting this. The video card isn't fantastic but it shouldn't have *too* much trouble on low at that resolution. | ||
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percy
Australia17 Posts
On May 22 2011 22:24 Womwomwom wrote: Processor: i5 2400 ($187) Motherboard: ASROCK H61M-S ($89) Video Card: POWERCOLOR HD5670 ($70) Total: $346 Make sure you have DDR3 memory before getting this. The video card isn't fantastic but it shouldn't have *too* much trouble on low at that resolution. much appreciated my good man! | ||
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Tengo_Hambre
United States51 Posts
mobo: GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 processor: intel core i5-2500 several mechanical drives: 1x1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm 32 mb cache and 2x500Gb Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm 16 mb cache gpu: ASUS EAH5670/DI/1GD5 memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Mid-Tower--recommendations here would be much appreciated. Power Supply: Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply cd drive: LITE-ON considering a sound card...do i need one to get sound period, or will it just improve the sound that i already get? Creative 70SB088000004 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express 1x Interface i think i can get all of this for about 900 (without sound card). what would you improve on? do i need a 3rd party heatsink for this processor? would it help? or should i wait and buy one if i decide to overclock? and if i want it to be wireless compatible, what do i need (if anything)? Also, i'm considering getting a new monitor at some point. any suggestions (sub $200)? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Your mobo should have decent onboard sound. | ||
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dirkaderk
United States26 Posts
On May 23 2011 01:10 Tengo_Hambre wrote: Hi all, i'm looking to get a new desktop and am currently looking at the following parts. my budget is around 1100-1200. any suggestions for improvements would be appreciated. the monitor i have is 1400x900. i do not plan on overclocking, but might in the future if i get adventurous. I do not need an os (planning on having it run both windows and os-x, i'm familiar with some of the basics of hackintosh). Planning to build it within 2/3 months and hope the upgrade cycle with it will be 3-5 years. I will be using it for gaming and streaming. mobo: GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD4-B3 processor: intel core i5-2500 several mechanical drives: 1x1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm 32 mb cache and 2x500Gb Seagate Barracuda 7200 rpm 16 mb cache gpu: ASUS EAH5670/DI/1GD5 memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Mid-Tower--recommendations here would be much appreciated. Power Supply: Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply cd drive: LITE-ON considering a sound card...do i need one to get sound period, or will it just improve the sound that i already get? Creative 70SB088000004 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Express 1x Interface i think i can get all of this for about 900 (without sound card). what would you improve on? do i need a 3rd party heatsink for this processor? would it help? or should i wait and buy one if i decide to overclock? and if i want it to be wireless compatible, what do i need (if anything)? Also, i'm considering getting a new monitor at some point. any suggestions (sub $200)? cannot really overclock with any of the new sandy bridge processors that do not have the (k) tag as they have a same base clock rate for the whole deal, its usually worth it to just buy the unlocked i5-2500k and a p67 based mobo, then overclock if you want rather than buying a board and chip that are incompatible with (much) OCing. here's a cheap alternative mobo thats a p67 ($119) ASRock p67 | ||
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dirkaderk
United States26 Posts
Okay so I recently put together a parts list (in a newegg wishlist) for a computer I will most likely be building sometime around August this year. My goals are to overclock the living hell out of the CPU while maintaing good temps, easy and flexible upgradability (including SLI possibility in the future), and to keep it around 1-1.1k before monitor (christmas present lolo). i5-2500k Build some reasoning- -i5 2500k- saw performance benchmarks and at 4.7GHz it wasn't that far behind much more expensive i7 w/ Hyperthreading turned off(to reduce temps.)... -650W power supply- GTX 480 runs something like 250W at max load and want future SLI power capability -Mini p67 was $100 cheaper than the full sized and it appears to be able to comfortably hold 2x16x cards (maybe not? haha) -Like monitor/webcam duo as well as asus quality (build/cables) Thanks so much for your time, really appreciate any suggestions/lols at my build, want to make it as beastly and reasonable as possible before building it! | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 23 2011 01:38 dirkaderk wrote: Hello! Okay so I recently put together a parts list (in a newegg wishlist) for a computer I will most likely be building sometime around August this year. My goals are to overclock the living hell out of the CPU while maintaing good temps, easy and flexible upgradability (including SLI possibility in the future), and to keep it around 1-1.1k before monitor (christmas present lolo). i5-2500k Build some reasoning- -i5 2500k- saw performance benchmarks and at 4.7GHz it wasn't that far behind much more expensive i7 w/ Hyperthreading turned off(to reduce temps.)... -650W power supply- GTX 480 runs something like 250W at max load and want future SLI power capability -Mini p67 was $100 cheaper than the full sized and it appears to be able to comfortably hold 2x16x cards (maybe not? haha) -Like monitor/webcam duo as well as asus quality (build/cables) Thanks so much for your time, really appreciate any suggestions/lols at my build, want to make it as beastly and reasonable as possible before building it! SLI 480s is a bad choice now, why plan for it later? And if you're building in August, with AMD's new lineup coming out before then, don't bother planning now. | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
On May 23 2011 01:38 dirkaderk wrote: Hello! Okay so I recently put together a parts list (in a newegg wishlist) for a computer I will most likely be building sometime around August this year. My goals are to overclock the living hell out of the CPU while maintaing good temps, easy and flexible upgradability (including SLI possibility in the future), and to keep it around 1-1.1k before monitor (christmas present lolo). i5-2500k Build some reasoning- -i5 2500k- saw performance benchmarks and at 4.7GHz it wasn't that far behind much more expensive i7 w/ Hyperthreading turned off(to reduce temps.)... -650W power supply- GTX 480 runs something like 250W at max load and want future SLI power capability -Mini p67 was $100 cheaper than the full sized and it appears to be able to comfortably hold 2x16x cards (maybe not? haha) -Like monitor/webcam duo as well as asus quality (build/cables) Thanks so much for your time, really appreciate any suggestions/lols at my build, want to make it as beastly and reasonable as possible before building it! Also, unless you have another HDD or SSD, you'll be running into problems using the Green drives as your boot drive. It'll also bottleneck your system, so it'll be sort of pointless to have the rest of your components. That case is also going to make your system ridiculously hot, no matter what cooler you use. You need a larger case if you want to run larger graphics cards, and the 480 is pretty hot already. Also, listen to the guy above me. Wait for Bulldozer and see whether Intel has to drop prices to match AMD's new prices, unless AMD messes up in the beginning. Also [2], 1001 posts. o: | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The Antec One Hundred, basically a revision of the Three Hundred: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129098 Memory is overpriced and unnecessary. Higher frequency and tighter timings offer very little gains as seen here: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html and here: http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 Just get Mushkins for $70: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095 You didn't mention if you wanted to do SLI/CrossfireX so the Gigabyte UD4 motherboard would be unnecessary if you are not planning to do so. Just grab a Asrock Z68 Pro3 for $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251 If you're looking at doing SLI/CrossfireX, I'd go with the Asrock P67 Extreme4 instead for $160: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229 If this is a gaming build and you're buying a new 1920x1200 monitor sometime in the future, I'd improve on the graphics card. Either a XFX Radeon HD6850 for $167 ($147 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150505 or a EVGA -KR GTX 560 for $190: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130660 Sound card isn't really necessary unless you have an expensive sound setup. I'd go with the XFX Core Edition Pro 550w for $60 instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047 or the XFX Core Edition Pro 450w for $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) if it comes back in stock when you make your purchase: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 @dirkaderk The P8P67-M Pro is a very poorly priced product from ASUS. Avoid it at all costs unless you really want the Advanced RMA that is offered by it. You'll want a full ATX board for SLI unless you enjoy having no slots for a sound card, network card, etc. If you want SLI and a 5GHz+ overclock, I'd go with a more expensive motherboard such as the Asus P8P67 Pro, MSI P67 GD65, or an Z68 equivalent motherboard. The GTX 480 runs fairly noisy and hot so you might want to look at the GTX 570, GTX 560 Ti, or Radeon HD6970, all of which are around the $250 - $350 range. Power supply is old and overpriced. I'd pick either of the XFX 650w units at $90, both with rebates or even the newer TX650 V2 which is priced at $90 and comes with a rebate as well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207007 GSkill memory is overpriced, Mushkins are at $70: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226095 AMD is expected to price Bulldozer to match the core i5 2500k so it seems that it's going to offer fairly competitive performance. | ||
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dirkaderk
United States26 Posts
On May 23 2011 01:43 JingleHell wrote: SLI 480s is a bad choice now, why plan for it later? And if you're building in August, with AMD's new lineup coming out before then, don't bother planning now. Questions to points made: -Dad works for intel, going to get an Intel chip when possible (lols) -why is SLIing 480s a bad choice? heat/power issues? -also, why is the powert supply outdated? whats the difference between that and a newer, also single rail 12v? -Thanks  | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 23 2011 02:32 dirkaderk wrote: Questions to points made: -Dad works for intel, going to get an Intel chip when possible (lols) -why is SLIing 480s a bad choice? heat/power issues? -also, why is the powert supply outdated? whats the difference between that and a newer, also single rail 12v? -Thanks SLI is already an iffy choice, due to the headaches involved with drivers. 480 is hot, and draws a ton of power, but also, at the price point, if you just desperately wanted SLI, 570's aren't much more if you find a sale, but perform on par for less power and heat. Might run slightly more at purchase, but it's a savings long term. http://www.anandtech.com/show/4344/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-top-to-bottom-overclock/8 http://www.anandtech.com/show/4344/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-top-to-bottom-overclock/15 And there's nothing wrong with going intel, but picking a chip now with AMD due to come out with a new lineup is silly, because price points might change. And if AMD pulls a rabbit out, it may end up being your better option, unless you get an employee discount or something. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Technology improves. TX650 is not bad, but there are much better options these days, including the TX650 V2 (or the internally-identical XFX Core 650W--they're made by the same actual manufacturer using the same parts on the same design). The newer units just have higher efficiency, more stable outputs, etc. Number of rails just corresponds to number of trip points for monitoring circuitry for overcurrent protections, etc. and is irrelevant except in rare circumstances. That has nothing to do with how much power can be outputted or its quality. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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dirkaderk
United States26 Posts
On May 23 2011 02:44 skyR wrote: The one you originally linked is made by CWT while both the V2 and XFX units are made by Seasonic. The Seasonic units are better overall so why would you pay the same for a shittier product? ahh apologies, just wasn't aware of that point. I don't mean to sound defensive or anything! Just like hearing the reasoning behind choices and yours is sound I'm not really interested in paying for an SSD quite yet (even just for a boot drive), will a standard 7200rpm drive such as WD 7.2k rpm 640Gb work fine as my only internal hdd? here's the new revision with your suggested full sized board, better power supply, and a cheaper gpu. I am also probably planning on running it with the same case (but open to avoid heat problems) unless I can find a similarly priced case that is better i5-2500k Build | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
Also, I'm no expert, but that CPU cooler looks pretty expensive. How effective is it? | ||
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dirkaderk
United States26 Posts
On May 23 2011 03:20 Zeke50100 wrote: That hard drive is fine, but this one is 1TB at the same RPM, but it's cheaper ($50 after promo). It's Seagate, so if you don't like that, you could go with this Western Digital Caviar Blue for $60. Also, I'm no expert, but that CPU cooler looks pretty expensive. How effective is it? checking benchmarks, it is one of the top performing (non liquid) coolers i've seen. I originally had the coolermaster 212 ($40) but a friend who overclocks like mad said it wouldnt be enough for my proposed 4.7GHz overclock so we'll see! Thanks very much for that link, you guys in this thread are so helpful | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
A regular HDD will work fine. Are you getting a Caviar Black for the five year warranty? If you don't care for warranty, I'd go for the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB for $65: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 or a Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB for $44: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073 I'm not sure how well the Zotac heatsinks are but if you're looking to overclock, I'd get an MSI Twin Frozr or Gigabyte Windforce: $240: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127594 $250 ($230 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565 $250 ($230 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363 $255 ($235 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578 If you don't care for GPU overclocking, just get the EVGA -AR for $230 ($210 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ is overpriced at $40. If you want a effective less expensive heatsink, get a Xigmatik Gaia: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 The Noctua NH-U12Pis a good heatsink but sort of unnecessary for a Sandybridge build (I use one myself). | ||
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