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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
May 22 2011 20:37 GMT
#5801
On May 23 2011 05:31 Progamermatt wrote:
^how well do you think that could play sc2 w/o and w/ streaming? (what settings w/o lag).


It really depends on the resolution. It should handle High pretty well at most resolutions at 1920x1080 or below (I saw a benchmark where it didn't step below 35 FPS on Ultra at 1920x1200, although I'm not sure what the test parameters were).
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 20:45:13
May 22 2011 20:44 GMT
#5802
i5-2400 is enough for SC2 while streaming at more than decent quality. Just don't expect anything like borderline VOD-quality 30fps 720p. If you wanted to push graphics settings higher, you'd just upgrade the HD 5670 to something better.

You can get a HD 5830 for $110, which is a little better than a HD 5770. That would still be under budget and let you crank the graphics settings to ultra on 1920x1080. I'd rather run graphics settings a little lower to get consistent 60 fps (i.e. average fps higher well higher than that) though, since there's really not much to see past medium settings.

btw you probably want a CD/DVD drive as well ($20)
Progamermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
United States79 Posts
May 22 2011 22:22 GMT
#5803
you think medium settings would stream fine on that build? Also, what if i planned on overclocking? would that change anything?
I'm the man.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 22:25:35
May 22 2011 22:24 GMT
#5804
Streaming with a core i5 2400 and a 5670 at medium is fine.

If you wanted to overclock, you'll need a core i5 2500k (+$30), a P67 / Z68 motherboard (+$50), and an aftermarket heatsink (+$30).
Progamermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
United States79 Posts
May 22 2011 22:27 GMT
#5805
^I think I would be willing to do that. Do you believe it's worth it? Would it allow streaming on High?
I'm the man.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 22 2011 22:30 GMT
#5806
A better graphics card would be much more beneficial than an overclocked processor for graphic settings...
Progamermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
United States79 Posts
May 22 2011 22:33 GMT
#5807
The triple dot makes me feel bad what what I had just said... Anyway, what would be a good card to get and still remain under the $700 budget? If possible, I'd like a setup below $700 that can stream on high rather smoothly.
I'm the man.
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
May 22 2011 22:46 GMT
#5808
What do you guys think about this deal?

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2947717
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
May 22 2011 22:46 GMT
#5809
On May 23 2011 07:33 Progamermatt wrote:
The triple dot makes me feel bad what what I had just said... Anyway, what would be a good card to get and still remain under the $700 budget? If possible, I'd like a setup below $700 that can stream on high rather smoothly.


You realize Myrmidon already posted that you could get a Radeon 6830 instead of a 5670 and still stay under-budget? Lol.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 22 2011 22:47 GMT
#5810
On May 23 2011 07:46 marvin. wrote:
What do you guys think about this deal?

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2947717


It's a good deal but it ends today.
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 23:37:43
May 22 2011 23:28 GMT
#5811
I've been reading that the HD 4850 is a powerhungry card... With an overclocked i5-2500k in the 4.5ghz range and an overclocked XFX HD 4850 would the Earthwatts 380D be sufficient?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 22 2011 23:36 GMT
#5812
On May 23 2011 08:28 marvin. wrote:
I've been reading that the HD 4850 is a powerhungry card... With an overclocked i5-2500k in the 4.5ghz range and an overclocked XFX HD 4850 would the Earthwatts 380D be sufficient?


The 4850 at stock only uses around 100w at max load and a core i5 2500k at stock uses around 60w so adding 100w for other components and the overclock, a 380D would be sufficient for such a configuration.
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
May 22 2011 23:38 GMT
#5813
Thanks - Also, I was reading about overclocking my XFX HD 4850 that i bought here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150482&Tpk=hd 4850

I came across this article:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1072/9/

The article speaks highly of its value/oc'ing abilities.. But the video cards themselves look different despite being the same model? Are they in fact the same card?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 22 2011 23:42 GMT
#5814
It's the same GPU but with a different heatsink and maybe a slightly different PCB.
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-22 23:54:10
May 22 2011 23:45 GMT
#5815
Is it safe to say that my current card has a cheaper heatsink and might not be able to oc as safely? Trying to get the most of it with the stock cooler.

Edit - Nvm. Seem to have found my answer here http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/965255-xfx-hd4850-1gb-using-mobility-chip.html

Looks like the 4850 is usiing its mobility chip variant.... Does this mean I should use.. the drivers for the mobile 4850 ? or the desktop? t.t
Brettatron
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada159 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 00:57:14
May 23 2011 00:54 GMT
#5816
Hey so it just happened again on me. I was playing for like... 8 or 9 hours fine and then it just rebooted randomly. I had automatically restart unticked and I didn't get a blue screen so its not that. This is quite troubling to me. I'm not sure its a heat issue, as I said, gpu temp seems to peak at 60c and also I've done long marathons of play before and not had it happen.

Refering to my problem on page 286.
Progamermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
United States79 Posts
May 23 2011 01:03 GMT
#5817
I was going with this build, but im buying within the next 2 days and it says the psu is out of stock. Any replacements? Or should I really just wait?

On May 15 2011 10:43 skyR wrote:
@Progamermatt

An overclockable configuration and capable of playing on high at 1920x1200 (if you ever decide to upgrade your monitor) that totals to $793 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 2500k & Gigabyte P67 UD3 Combo @ $335
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.642509

GSkill 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

MSI Radeon HD6850 Cyclone PE @ $157 ($137 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127576

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

XFX Core Edition 450w @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Coolermaster Elite 330 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

DVD Drive @ $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

I'm the man.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 23 2011 01:12 GMT
#5818
On May 23 2011 09:54 Brettatron wrote:
Hey so it just happened again on me. I was playing for like... 8 or 9 hours fine and then it just rebooted randomly. I had automatically restart unticked and I didn't get a blue screen so its not that. This is quite troubling to me. I'm not sure its a heat issue, as I said, gpu temp seems to peak at 60c and also I've done long marathons of play before and not had it happen.

Refering to my problem on page 286.


Make sure to have the most up to date chipset, LAN, graphics card, and audio drivers and have a fully updated Windows.

Disable C3/C6 and any power-saving features in the BIOS. Disable sleep/hibernate and set your power profile to high performance in Windows.

Set memory to 1333MHz 9-9-9-24 @ 1.6v and probably a good idea to run memtest86+ over night for a couple passes.

Not sure of the vcore options on the Gigabyte but you may want to set it manually or try using offset (if that's available as an option).

If you have a multimeter, you could test your power supply as well. If not and you're still experiencing random reboots after doing all of the above, I'd start RMAing parts.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 01:17:15
May 23 2011 01:16 GMT
#5819
On May 23 2011 10:03 Progamermatt wrote:
I was going with this build, but im buying within the next 2 days and it says the psu is out of stock. Any replacements? Or should I really just wait?

Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:43 skyR wrote:
@Progamermatt

An overclockable configuration and capable of playing on high at 1920x1200 (if you ever decide to upgrade your monitor) that totals to $793 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 2500k & Gigabyte P67 UD3 Combo @ $335
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.642509

GSkill 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

MSI Radeon HD6850 Cyclone PE @ $157 ($137 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127576

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

XFX Core Edition 450w @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Coolermaster Elite 330 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

DVD Drive @ $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986


Earthwatts Green 380D for $40, or Corsair CX430 V2 for $45 (even less if you do mail-in rebate) would be good. These aren't quite as good as the XFX Core Edition 450W, but you don't need that much wattage, these are still decent, and they're cheaper. The Corsair CX430 V2 has better performance, while the Earthwatts Green has slightly higher efficiency and has a higher reputation for quality control.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 (review 1, 2)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 (review 1, 2)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 01:28:48
May 23 2011 01:24 GMT
#5820
On May 23 2011 10:03 Progamermatt wrote:
I was going with this build, but im buying within the next 2 days and it says the psu is out of stock. Any replacements? Or should I really just wait?

Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 10:43 skyR wrote:
@Progamermatt

An overclockable configuration and capable of playing on high at 1920x1200 (if you ever decide to upgrade your monitor) that totals to $793 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 2500k & Gigabyte P67 UD3 Combo @ $335
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.642509

GSkill 2x2GB 1333MHz @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231253

MSI Radeon HD6850 Cyclone PE @ $157 ($137 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127576

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

XFX Core Edition 450w @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

Coolermaster Elite 330 @ $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115

DVD Drive @ $21
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986



Probably in your best interest to get a Z68 combo instead for $325: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.651991

The sale for the 6850 is no longer available so your next best option for a 6850 is a XFX one for $167 ($147 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150505 You could of course remain with the MSI Cyclone as its only $3 more than the XFX.

+ Show Spoiler +
As for power supply, you could get an Antec Earthwatts 380D for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 or an Antec High Current Gamer 520w for $60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047

If you're buying within the next few hours, you could get a Corsair CX430 V2 for $20 after mail in rebate: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
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