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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 00:27:24
August 03 2010 00:27 GMT
#441
On August 03 2010 09:20 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 09:00 MrBitter wrote:
Ok, after some encouraging feedback, I've decided to dry building my own machine. >.<

Per you guys' recommendations, I'm aim'n for some pretty serious components to accommodate my $1200 budget.

Here's what I'm work'n with:

Case: Antec 900 ATX Mid Tower Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
$99.95

Processing: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215
$194.95

Hard Drive: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296
$139.95

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
$97.99

Power: Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX12V V2.2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023
$41.99

Motherboard: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398
$99.99

Graphics: Palit NE5TX465F1002 GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261072
$280.00

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754
$99.99

Ok... This tucks me in around $1,100. I'm sorta torn over this whole i5 vs i7 deal...

Also, this is the first time I've ever tried doing this. I haven't ordered any of the parts yet, so I'd appreciate any feedback in regards to stuff I might've missed, or bad selections I may have made.

Thanks so much, you guys have been a terrific help so far.

-What is you're resolution first of all? Assuming its 1920x1080?
Swap out the velociraptor for a spinpoint f3 or WD cavier black
Swap out the gtx 465 for a 460 or 470
Get the OS from a school for ~30$ if that's an option for you.
Probably get a better psu if you switch out for a 470.

Am i doing it right fragkrag/semantics??


Low rez: 1024x768

I will look into the other suggestions.

So I didn't miss anything important? Do I need to order extra cables, or anything like that?

Thanks tons!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:12:03
August 03 2010 00:27 GMT
#442
On August 03 2010 09:00 MrBitter wrote:
Ok, after some encouraging feedback, I've decided to dry building my own machine. >.<

Per you guys' recommendations, I'm aim'n for some pretty serious components to accommodate my $1200 budget.

Here's what I'm work'n with:

Case: Antec 900 ATX Mid Tower Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
$99.95

Processing: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215
$194.95

Hard Drive: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296
$139.95

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
$97.99

Power: Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX12V V2.2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023
$41.99

Motherboard: ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398
$99.99

Graphics: Palit NE5TX465F1002 GeForce GTX 465 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261072
$280.00

Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754
$99.99

Ok... This tucks me in around $1,100. I'm sorta torn over this whole i5 vs i7 deal...

Also, this is the first time I've ever tried doing this. I haven't ordered any of the parts yet, so I'd appreciate any feedback in regards to stuff I might've missed, or bad selections I may have made.

Thanks so much, you guys have been a terrific help so far.

case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
Why not use this imo it's a better case if not just as good and it's cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197

hhd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296
to this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
The raptor isn't much of anything anymore if you want speed get an ssd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227393

Also the 465 is worth trash now the GTX 460 is a much better card runs cooler performs the same and you can oc it alot better for more performance
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333

The mobo is AM3 it wont work on a i5-750 try these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157172
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131407

psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207007&cm_re=xfx-_-17-207-007-_-Product


This build would allow expansion to run 2 460's in sli and adding things like ssd and other crap.
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It can also be reworked so you have an ssd at the sacrifice of expandability which isn't an issue if you don't plan to add things.

Oh yeah it's missing a DVD rom drive
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 02:23:57
August 03 2010 02:22 GMT
#443
Wow. Semantics. I love you.

<3<3

I'll be ordering these parts in the next couple of days. Can't wait to put together my machine!

Edit: I guess while I'm getting feedback - What reasons would justify getting an i7 versus an i5? i5 should be more than I'll ever need for running SC2, right?
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 03 2010 04:19 GMT
#444
Just more processing power. You wouldn't need it though. i5 750 is considered the sweet spot for price/performance gaming for intel processors.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19188 Posts
August 03 2010 04:22 GMT
#445
I disagree with semantics on a couple points. Well, mostly just 1: the PSU. I recommend only getting Antec, Corsair, Thermaltake, GIGABYTE, or Cooler Master for PSU. Personally, I'm a fan of Thermaltake. Additionally, I'm not a fan of anything by XFX, there's lots of issues with their stuff.

That said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371011
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153109
The Thermaltake is a bit more expensive, but it's actually capable of running 750 watts quite easily.

Also, if you prefer Antec cases and still want the 900...go for the 902. It's an updated version with some changes to the airflow, which is quite nice.
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 04:36:51
August 03 2010 04:34 GMT
#446
Except XFX and most Corsair PSUs are made by the same people...... ?_? The PSU is good, and has modular cabling.

And the recommended list without including Seasonic or Silverstone?
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 04:42:27
August 03 2010 04:40 GMT
#447
Huh?

XFX uses Sea Sonic OEMs for their latest PSUs, and Corsair has been known to use both Sea Sonic and CWT OEMs. Some Thermaltake PSUs are CWT as well. Thermaltake is mainly up there because of its Toughpower line.

Any Antec case other than the Antec 300 or the Antec P180/183/193 really shouldn't be considered since there are much better alternatives that Cooler Master provides.

I have never actually seen a Gigabyte PSU, but if they use good OEMs, I guess they could be good as well.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 05:28:24
August 03 2010 05:28 GMT
#448
That's kind of what I wanted to say, I didn't know how to put it. :X

Anyways, for people looking to buy a hard drive soon as part of their system there's going to be a Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Shell Shocker Deal on Wednesday, 8/4, between 10AM and 12:59PM PDT.

Probably $10-20 savings.

Either you can buy the rest of the system now and save the hard drive for Wednesday, or wait to buy it all Wednesday.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2094678
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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 05:38:35
August 03 2010 05:36 GMT
#449
Ok, I think my build is finalized. Took a little bit of everyone's suggestions, and splurged on the SSD and case, opting for the Mac-Daddy:
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

I figure given the reviews of this thing, and the good stuff everyone here says about Cooler Master, I can't be going wrong.

Here's a shot of my finalized list:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


The thing I cut off at the top was just a DVD drive. This one, to be exact:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Total build comes out to $1216.87 before shipping and handling.

Any last words of guidance before I pull the trigger on this?

Thanks again for all the help!
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19188 Posts
August 03 2010 05:49 GMT
#450
I just don't trust XFX in general. Granted, they use Seasonic, but they are still new to the PSU market. So my prejudice bites me in the ass there, as I think Seasonic+rebrands are the best out there.

I <3 my Antec 902.

GIGABYTE only has 1 PSU on Newegg right now, and I'm having a bit of trouble finding the actual manufacturer. From what I can tell, GIGABYTE assembled it themselves from mostly CWT parts.
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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 05:54:13
August 03 2010 05:52 GMT
#451
On August 03 2010 13:22 tofucake wrote:
I disagree with semantics on a couple points. Well, mostly just 1: the PSU. I recommend only getting Antec, Corsair, Thermaltake, GIGABYTE, or Cooler Master for PSU. Personally, I'm a fan of Thermaltake. Additionally, I'm not a fan of anything by XFX, there's lots of issues with their stuff.

That said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371011
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153109
The Thermaltake is a bit more expensive, but it's actually capable of running 750 watts quite easily.

Also, if you prefer Antec cases and still want the 900...go for the 902. It's an updated version with some changes to the airflow, which is quite nice.


Might as well get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341041&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Power Supplies-_-OCZ Technology-_-17341041 if you're gonna spend $120. The one below it is decent also and around the price range the person was gonna pay for the one they listed. Fatal1ty power supplies are very good and the best money you'll spend on a psu. A test I've seen had the 750 watt one not function at over 900 watts.
There's no S in KT. :P
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19188 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 05:55:45
August 03 2010 05:53 GMT
#452
On August 03 2010 14:52 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 13:22 tofucake wrote:
I disagree with semantics on a couple points. Well, mostly just 1: the PSU. I recommend only getting Antec, Corsair, Thermaltake, GIGABYTE, or Cooler Master for PSU. Personally, I'm a fan of Thermaltake. Additionally, I'm not a fan of anything by XFX, there's lots of issues with their stuff.

That said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371011
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153109
The Thermaltake is a bit more expensive, but it's actually capable of running 750 watts quite easily.

Also, if you prefer Antec cases and still want the 900...go for the 902. It's an updated version with some changes to the airflow, which is quite nice.


Might as well get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341041&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Power Supplies-_-OCZ Technology-_-17341041 if you're gonna spend $120. The one below it is decent also and around the price range the person was gonna pay for the one they listed. Fatal1ty power supplies are very good and the best money you'll spend on a psu.



Yeah. If you go to college/university check out your IT department and website. You may be able to get Windows for mad cheap (free to $20) which will let you beef something else up, be it parts or your wallet.

On August 03 2010 14:52 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 13:22 tofucake wrote:
I disagree with semantics on a couple points. Well, mostly just 1: the PSU. I recommend only getting Antec, Corsair, Thermaltake, GIGABYTE, or Cooler Master for PSU. Personally, I'm a fan of Thermaltake. Additionally, I'm not a fan of anything by XFX, there's lots of issues with their stuff.

That said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371011
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153109
The Thermaltake is a bit more expensive, but it's actually capable of running 750 watts quite easily.

Also, if you prefer Antec cases and still want the 900...go for the 902. It's an updated version with some changes to the airflow, which is quite nice.


Might as well get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341041&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Power Supplies-_-OCZ Technology-_-17341041 if you're gonna spend $120. The one below it is decent also and around the price range the person was gonna pay for the one they listed. Fatal1ty power supplies are very good and the best money you'll spend on a psu.

Haha...that one even has a combo with SC2 ^^
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 06:07:31
August 03 2010 05:55 GMT
#453
You're missing a storage hard drive. Can't fit everything on a 30gb hard drive
Pair a Samsung Spinpoint F3 with an XFX 650w Modular Cabling or Corsair 650-TX 650w non-modular and save $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.454705
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.466028

Combo your motherboard with Windows 7 64 bit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.441471.13-157-172

Or you can pair your i5 750 with an XFX 650w and save $25.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.454698

Or you can pair your i5 750 with an ASUS P7P55D EVO 16x/0x or 8x/8x and save $15
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.466017

:S So many choices to choose from!
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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
August 03 2010 05:58 GMT
#454
Here's a review of it with the test I mentioned.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/OCZ-Fatal1ty-750-W-Power-Supply-Review/1019

This article is pretty good also.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Power-Supplies-With-Fake-80-Plus-Badges/1054
There's no S in KT. :P
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19188 Posts
August 03 2010 05:59 GMT
#455
I suggest modular cabling, but that's probably just because I'm a neat freak with my internals

Also, pick up some thermal paste. It's $3-5 and well worth it.
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MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 06:20:25
August 03 2010 06:18 GMT
#456
o.O

I love the nerd community. I feel like I've been hugged against the bosom of the techy-gods, and blessed with l337 advice.

For a storage HD, will I be alright just using a cheap external?

Is thermal paste really gonna be necessary with the rig I posted? I guess if it doesn't hurt anything I might as well...

In regards to PSUs: seems like every suggestion is getting beefier and beefier. 750W just seems like so much overkill... Would love some more solid advice here, as everyone seems to have a different opinion on this one.

I am a college student, so I'll check with the school to see if I can get a deal on Windows.

And per you guys' advice, maybe I can knock off $50-$100 with some clever comboing.

<3 x a bajillion. You guys rule.
akevin
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada120 Posts
August 03 2010 07:06 GMT
#457
Thanks everyone for the responses a few pages back. I greatly appreciate the help!
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
August 03 2010 07:07 GMT
#458
So, I'm looking to upgrade. Here is my current setup:

Processor:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Socket 775 LGA

Mobo:
ASUSTeK P5Q-E
Northbridge Intel P45/P43/G45/G43 rev. A2
Southbridge Intel 82801JR (ICH10R) rev. 00

RAM:
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)

Graphics Card:
SAPPHIRE TOXIC 100282TXSR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Display:
2 x LG W2286L Black 22" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight LCD monitor (1680*1050)

Case:
Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case

HDD:
4 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31000340AS Hard Drive - 1TB - 7200rpm
2 x MAXTOR 6H500R0 500GB internal 3.5 IDE 7200rpm 16MB

I recently bought the HD 5850, and the dual 22" monitors, so those will stay, as well as the 4 x 1TB Seagate Sata HD's. I'd like to replace the 2 x 500GB IDE Maxtors with 2 x 2 TB's.

I'm willing to spend max $1-1.5k on an upgrade, primary focus on a new mobo, processor, 2 x 2 TB HD's. If there's room left, a new case, SSD HD, and possibly another 5850 to put into crossfire (overkill? :p)




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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
August 03 2010 07:39 GMT
#459
What's your psu and do you need anything like a i7-870 vs just a i5-760
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 07:41:23
August 03 2010 07:40 GMT
#460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.459955
i7 930 + UD3R $485

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226093
Mushkin Silverline 6GB DDR3 $140 ($120 after MIR)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152202
2x Samsung F3EG 2TB 5400RPM $260
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136456
2x WD Caviar Black 2TB 7200RPM $360

is the base so far.

$865-965 (depending on HDD choice)
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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