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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19254 Posts
August 03 2010 20:47 GMT
#481
Probably. I ended up having to install Vista to upgrade, but that was more because of hardware issues, so I can't really say from personal experience. The upgrade is supposed to work with XP just fine, though.
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djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
August 03 2010 21:09 GMT
#482
On August 04 2010 04:20 Bx_Kaotik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 04:18 tofucake wrote:
Upgrade requires an existing Windows install present. Full does not.



oo ok so will it work if i install my old windows xp first then download the windows 7 upgrade?

Is this the purchase via Digital River? If so, I've read on some other tech forums that it is in fact the full version (not just upgrade). However, I'd shoot them an e-mail just to make sure.
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
August 03 2010 21:22 GMT
#483
Is this a pretty good deal? If I buy this now, will it be a good option for running dual 460's in SLI in the future?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL080310&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL080310-_-EMC-080310-Index-_-PowerSupplies-_-17139005-L0A
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
August 03 2010 21:47 GMT
#484
that PSU only has 2 PCI-e plugs so you'd have to use molex-->pci-e converters, so no

also, the power is a little low to be comfortable imo
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 22:23:27
August 03 2010 22:14 GMT
#485
I think 650w is enough. The graphics cards descriptions always give a recommended amount, and even that is usually generous unless they want their customers' computers exploding

All of these have at least 4 PCI-E connectors. If you pick XFX get their newer version, it's probably a more refined version, and they're both modular to take out unused cables. The Seasonic is the same thing as the XFXs I believe, with 52A on the +12v, but its +12v rail is split into 4. The Antec TruePowers are semi-modular while the 650w has 54A on the +12v, and the 750w(if you want to be really safe) has 62A on the +12v.

mod edit: link too long

Newegg 650W PSU Comparison
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 03 2010 22:29 GMT
#486
Total power draw here for an i7-920 system with SLI GTX 460 1GB was 528 W running a synthetic benchmark. Realistic gaming power draw was about 100 W less, so I'd think that 650 W is comfortable, albeit not anywhere near crazy overspec land where some PSUs are run.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 22:40:20
August 03 2010 22:38 GMT
#487
On August 03 2010 21:16 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 15:18 MrBitter wrote:
o.O

I love the nerd community. I feel like I've been hugged against the bosom of the techy-gods, and blessed with l337 advice.

For a storage HD, will I be alright just using a cheap external?

Is thermal paste really gonna be necessary with the rig I posted? I guess if it doesn't hurt anything I might as well...

In regards to PSUs: seems like every suggestion is getting beefier and beefier. 750W just seems like so much overkill... Would love some more solid advice here, as everyone seems to have a different opinion on this one.

I am a college student, so I'll check with the school to see if I can get a deal on Windows.

And per you guys' advice, maybe I can knock off $50-$100 with some clever comboing.

<3 x a bajillion. You guys rule.

I recommend it. I'm not sure if your CPU comes with it (they usually don't), and if you don't have proper contact between the CPU and the cooler you can have some serious (read: damaging) heat issues, and you won't be able to RMA since it would be considered user inflicted damage. IMO it's worth it to pick up a $5 tube of Arctic Silver.

AS5 is bull crap, i'd pick up a tube of OCZ Freeze Extreme for 5 bucks if i wanted to spend a bit more i'd get a tube of IC diamond 7 or 27 or get a tube of Tuniq TX-4

Also a bit of thermal paste is necessary to fill in the little gaps left between the cpu and heatsink without thermal paste a cpu cooler ability to transfer the heat up and away is severally compromised.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 22:48:37
August 03 2010 22:46 GMT
#488
On August 04 2010 06:47 KOFgokuon wrote:
that PSU only has 2 PCI-e plugs so you'd have to use molex-->pci-e converters, so no

also, the power is a little low to be comfortable imo

yeah at the bare min you do need something with 4 pcie and at 650w it's possible to run 2 460's at stock they draw something like 170 so for 2 you're looking at like 340w around max for the gpu's factor in the cpu and some other crap and you'll be in range, but if you oc everything with voltage modifications i'd say it be playing close to the chest. Anyways heres a 650w that can do that job.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207007&cm_re=xfx_650-_-17-207-007-_-Product
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 00:59:51
August 04 2010 00:55 GMT
#489
Well, here's my planned setup. Any feedback would be much appreciated:

CPU: Can't decide between the Core i5 750 and the Core i7 860. Is there a big difference I should take into account?

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128429&cm_re=gigabyte_lga_1156-_-13-128-429-_-Product

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153113&Tpk=500W TR2 W0379RU

RAM: 2x - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139186&cm_re=kingston_2gb_ddr3_1333-_-20-139-186-_-Product

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150479&cm_re=GeForce_GTS_250_256-bit_xfx-_-14-150-479-_-Product

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133094&Tpk=Thermaltake V3

(I already have a few HDDs lying around, so need to throw that in.)

Thanks in advance.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 04 2010 01:01 GMT
#490
If you're just gaming, there is no reason to get the i7 860. The i7 760 is also out, so you might want to consider that as well.

Get this RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231190
It's cheaper :>

The rest looks fine except the case. I wouldn't go for a plastic case :|
Consider a Coolermaster Centurion or an Antec 300.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
August 04 2010 01:10 GMT
#491
Anything on my previous post on page 24? I'm tired of my 6000+
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 01:18:02
August 04 2010 01:16 GMT
#492
I don't like the price point for that GTS 250. I know there's a $30 mail-in rebate for it, but if you're paying $130 up front, for a few dollars more you can get a 5770 that performs better and cooler compared to the GTS 250.

Edit: SONE, what's your budget? And current PSU?
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 01:24:48
August 04 2010 01:24 GMT
#493
SONE: i5 750 looks like a good bet, or depending on your motherboard you can throw in a Phenom II X4 955/945 or like an Athlon II X4 635 and be done with it.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
August 04 2010 01:28 GMT
#494
Yeah my mobo is the m2n4sli, which is just regular AM2 IIRC
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 01:32:37
August 04 2010 01:30 GMT
#495
You could throw this CPU in
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103644

Of course you would have to upgrade later on, but it is still a decent CPU.


Nevermind, ASUS website says it doesn't support Phenoms. Probably due to a power issue or something. i5 750/760 seems like a good bet.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 04 2010 01:34 GMT
#496
On August 04 2010 06:09 djcube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2010 04:20 Bx_Kaotik wrote:
On August 04 2010 04:18 tofucake wrote:
Upgrade requires an existing Windows install present. Full does not.



oo ok so will it work if i install my old windows xp first then download the windows 7 upgrade?

Is this the purchase via Digital River? If so, I've read on some other tech forums that it is in fact the full version (not just upgrade). However, I'd shoot them an e-mail just to make sure.


Either way, you can just format the hard drive and install from scratch, it won't ask you if you have the previous windows.
Rillanon.au
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
August 04 2010 01:39 GMT
#497
100 back to school deals from newegg, looks like a couple decent deals
http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Aug-0-2010/BTSSale03/Mobile.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL080310&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL080310-_-EMC-080310-Index-_-Header-banner-_-Mobile
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 04 2010 01:41 GMT
#498
non-mobile version of 100 back to school deals which I feel are easier to look at

http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Aug-0-2010/BTSSale03/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL080310&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL080310-_-EMC-080310-Index-_-E0-_-PromoWord
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Errol
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Canada102 Posts
August 04 2010 05:50 GMT
#499
Newegg Part's list
+ Show Spoiler +

Mobo: MSI 790FX-GD70 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard
CPU: Phenom II x4 965 Black Edition
PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX
RAM: G.SKILL 2x2GB DDR3 1600
GPU: 2x HIS Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
Case: COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690
SSD: OCZ Agility 60 GB
HDD: Samsung 1TB F3
Optical Drive: LG DVD/CD Drive
OS: Windows 7 64 bit

I basically just want a gaming comp that will kick the crap out of SC2(1900x1200) and last me for 2+ years. This is what I have at the moment but I was wondering if I messed up on compatibility or something. Was also wondering if the cooling's alright, I don't plan on overclocking but it has 2 GPUs and I'm just using stock fans and case fans. It's at about $1300 now but I'll go up to $1500 if I can't avoid it.
Cheaper's good too.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
August 04 2010 06:07 GMT
#500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
890FX mobo for $10 more but you get USB 3.0 and SATA 6GB/s along with a better chipset.

The stock cooling should be fine if you aren't going to overclock.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233124
is a better SSD for $20 more. You get better sequential write and better sequential read. Random performance should be better as well, though it isn't exactly necessary.

HD 4870s are great and all, but they run extremely hot. I would try to avoid using them in Crossfire because they run hot, suck up a lot of power, and also CrossFire doesn't scale that well
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125318
HD 5850 is a better choice imo. At $300 you get great performance that maxes out SC2, but doesn't bring your temps to unreasonable levels. If you find yourself wanting more power, you can always buy another HD 5850 when they become cheaper and put them in CrossFire.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333
The GTX 460 also maxes out SC2 at a lower price, but it does limit ugpradeability a bit. You won't be able to run them in SLI like you can CrossFire with the HD 5850.

Personally I would go with the GTX 460.

Aside from that, your build looks fine. There could be heat trouble if you run crossfire 4870 though.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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