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On March 18 2011 06:57 bonedOUT wrote:
I am going to be using a gtx 460 768mb and i5 2500k as my new computer. I am wondering if it would be able to play starcraft on high and stream my games at the same time. I also want to dual screen my system (perhaps use it to use browsers and pandora at the same time). Does the dual screen use more power from the GPU? If that is the case, will the gtx 460 768mb suffice?
edit: both at 1920x1080 monitors
If there's nothing much special going on in the second screen, it will have a fairly minor impact. The GTX 460 768MB is fine, especially if you don't demand highest textures and antialiasing on everything. But that resolution is about where people start thinking about the GTX 460 1GB instead.
On March 18 2011 07:04 HotSoup470 wrote:
My initial plan was: cpu: i5-2500K, mobo: P67, gpu: gtx 570, memory: 8 GB, boot drive: OCZ Vertex 2 80GB, data drive: 1 TB, psu: corsair 500W?, a nice looking full tower case of my choice, and some mid-range aftermarket heatsink.
This sounds good to me. Corsair doesn't particularly have a great PSU at around 500W though. As for specifics of the motherboard, heatsink, 1TB drive, etc., that's going to depend on prices when you're actually buying.
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@bonedOUT
Yes, using multiple monitors will require the graphic card to work more but it shouldn't be a problem if all you have running on the second monitor is a web browser and some simple programs. Your setup should be more than powerful enough to play on high and stream.
@HotSoup470
The setup looks good but most of Corsair's quality power supplies (HX, TX series) are actually overpriced atm compared to the competition (Seasonic, Antec, XFX).
@DystopiaX
You picked a 2500k which is meant for overclocking because it has an unlocked multiplier but you selected an H67 motherboard which does not allow overclocking. If you intend to overclock, you need to select a P67 motherboard. If you do not intend to overclock, you should get a Core i5 2500 because the only difference between the standard and the K is that the K has an unlocked multiplier and stronger integrated graphics.
You picked an micro ATX board which means you have no intention to do SLI / CrossfireX so there is no need for an 850w power supply. A 500W unit can handle any single graphic card solution (excluding dual GPU single card solutions). And if you really do want to waste money on a power supply, you should look into dumping it into the Seasonic X or Corsair AX series.
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^k thanks. are the 2 still compatible though? I ask because Microcenter is selling the 2500k for that cheap, but for whatever reason they don't carry the 2500 so I would actually end up paying more for it elsewhere.
How about this power supply? Any reason not to recommend it?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035&cm_re=500w_psu-_-17-371-035-_-Product
and finally, do you think you could recommend a monitor for me? I'd like an HDMI port, that way I can also use it as my xbox 360 screen. Thanks.
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Thanks for the advice, one last question. Would there be a big gaming decrease in performance if I did drop to the 2400?
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Alright thanks! Ordering the parts tomorrow, I'll let you guys know how the building goes.
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Thanks a bunch skyR and JingleHell!
Going to finalize on:
Case: Antec 900 ATX Mid Tower @ $100
CPU:i5-2500K @ $220
Mobo: MSI P67A-C43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 @$125
Heatsink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 @ $30
Memory: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333 @ $80
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 80GB @ $165
HD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1 TB @ $65
PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA-500D Green 500W @ $60
GPU: EVGA GTX 570 @ $350
and an ASUS CD-DVD burner
total using exclusively Newegg comes to.... awesome... $1,337.14
again, thanks for the advice on the PSU, if you have any alarming suggestions on my choices i'm open
also, I'm not that familiar, with computer cases, the Antec 900 seems like a "solid" and proven favorite, but imo perhaps a little boring and mainstream, if anyone has an "newer" "exciting" case recommendation for around the same price point based on their experience please let me know! otherwise i'll be going with the Antec 900
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also, I'm not that familiar, with computer cases, the Antec 900 seems like a "solid" and proven favorite, but imo perhaps a little boring and mainstream, if anyone has an "newer" "exciting" case recommendation for around the same price point based on their experience please let me know! otherwise i'll be going with the Antec 900
Antec 900 is indeed a fairly "mainstream" case, but that's for the other reasons you mentioned, such as solid, and proven favorite. I'm using one. The Hyper 212 fits, the removable drive bays are handy, the airflow is outstanding (although the bottom mounted PSU does aim at your GPU, but there's room to install a vent fan on the side if it causes a heat problem).
Another handy feature, at least for me, is that the power and reset buttons are in a little recess, which lets me stretch tape over it and keep my toddler from playing "magic LEDs".
It is a kind of chunky case though, hefty to move around if you LAN a lot.
For me, the pros outweigh the cons, with ease of working inside, ease of installing a new drive, solid, good airflow, vs Heavy and common. Oh, and all the built in fans are fairly quiet.
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Oh, just remembered I need a wireless network card, since my PC won't be near an ethernet port or anything. I have no idea what differentiates any of them, so could someone help? One more time, thanks.
Also, since the monitor skyR ended up being cheaper than I expected, can anyone recommend a good modular PSU? Given that the one I picked isn't, and I expect to move the PC around a decent amount and don't want stray cables f-ing anything up.
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On March 18 2011 08:38 HotSoup470 wrote:
also, I'm not that familiar, with computer cases, the Antec 900 seems like a "solid" and proven favorite, but imo perhaps a little boring and mainstream, if anyone has an "newer" "exciting" case recommendation for around the same price point based on their experience please let me know! otherwise i'll be going with the Antec 900
Antec 900 is an outdated design and I'd probably stay away from it if you are going with a GTX 570 as it'll be a tight fit inside the case.
You should probably look at getting the Lian Li PC-K62, Coolermaster HAF 922, or Coolermaster 690 II Advanced.
On March 18 2011 08:52 DystopiaX wrote:
Oh, just remembered I need a wireless network card, since my PC won't be near an ethernet port or anything. I have no idea what differentiates any of them, so could someone help? One more time, thanks.
Also, since the monitor skyR ended up being cheaper than I expected, can anyone recommend a good modular PSU? Given that the one I picked isn't, and I expect to move the PC around a decent amount and don't want stray cables f-ing anything up.
Don't know anything about wireless cards so I'll leave that to someone else =p
If you want a fully modular power supply than the Seasonic X560 @ $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151098
If you want a semi modular power supply than the Antec Truepower New 650W @ $80: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021
If you don't mind dealing with mail in rebates than the XFX 650W @ $90 ($60 after mail in rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207002
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Corsair gets good reviews generally on their modulars, but I've never used one myself. Just whatever you do, don't touch an Apevia PSU. I've had to pull quite a few of those out for friends in the last few years due to failure, and their RMA process was slow the one time I paid any attention to it.
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Corsair HX650 is a little worse than the Antec TruePower New (HX750 and HX850 are a different product line and are another tier up at least). The HX650 and TPN are both manufactured by Seasonic, by the way, just the TruePower New has a somewhat newer and superior design, resulting in somewhat better performance.
I would get a slightly higher-end P67 mobo (no more than $150 for sure). MSI is known for using low-quality transistors on their lower-end stuff for the CPU voltage regulation modules, which are responsible for taking +12V from the PSU and convert that to the Vcore. The voltage regulation section isn't heatsinked on the C43, which is another bad sign.
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On March 18 2011 10:42 Myrmidon wrote:
Corsair HX650 is a little worse than the Antec TruePower New (HX750 and HX850 are a different product line and are another tier up at least). The HX650 and TPN are both manufactured by Seasonic, by the way, just the TruePower New has a somewhat newer and superior design, resulting in somewhat better performance.
I would get a slightly higher-end P67 mobo (no more than $150 for sure). MSI is known for using low-quality transistors on their lower-end stuff for the CPU voltage regulation modules, which are responsible for taking +12V from the PSU and convert that to the Vcore. The voltage regulation section isn't heatsinked on the C43, which is another bad sign.
Alright thanks. Still have no idea what to do about the wireless network adaptor though.
Thinking of this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106121&cm_re=intel_pro/1000-_-33-106-121-_-Product
People have been complaining that it doesn't work with windows 7 but I looked here:
http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-012904.htm
at Intel support and apparently it's supported by them now, so maybe those reviews are old? idk....
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I'm not particularly familiar with PCI and PCI-E wireless network adapters, but...that's a Gigabit Ethernet adapter. 
You're looking for a IEEE 802.11 (Wi-Fi) adapter that's compatible with your wireless router (access point, to be more accurate). If you don't have an 802.11n router, you probably have 802.11g. In that case, I'd recommend something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315041
802.11n is backwards compatible with 802.11g (operates in 2.4 GHz band). 802.11g and 802.11n are also compatible with the ~10 years old 802.11b. 802.11n that also can operate in the 5 GHz band should be also backwards compatible with 802.11a, but that wasn't as popular.
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thanks...like I said I have no idea what I'm doing in that department.
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On March 18 2011 12:01 DystopiaX wrote:
thanks...like I said I have no idea what I'm doing in that department.
Much better to be willing to admit that than not. I leave network stuff to my wife so she doesn't kill me for breaking it, personally.
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So, what do you guys think about intel's motherboards?
I'm also wanting to ask about the different versions of windows 7. What do you guys use, recommend, etc? Is there even a big difference?
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