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IPS.Blue
Germany309 Posts
On June 13 2013 16:31 skyR wrote: I highly doubt that going from 1600MHz to 3200MHz is worth the effort for the little difference it provides in gaming. Since Haswell is so hot, investing the money into cooling is probably better, yes. But let’s see what Cyro has to say.  | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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Johnnycashew
16 Posts
For reference this is my current computer's specs that I got from Alienware years ago (2008 I think) + Show Spoiler + Memory (RAM): 3071 MB CPU Info: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5800+ CPU Speed: 3007.5 MHz Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 | RDPDD Chained DD | RDP Encoder Mirror Driver Screen Resolution: 1920 X 1080 - 32 bit CD / DVD Drives: 2x (D: | E: | ) D: HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22NP20 | E: MagicISOVirtual DVD-ROM Hard Disks: C: 458.1GB BIOS Info: AT/AT COMPATIBLE | 08/22/08 | ALWARE - 20080822 Motherboard *: ASUSTeK Computer INC. M3A32-MVP DELUXE I would like to keep my budget within the $900-$1000 mark. My resolution is 1920x1080, and plan on using it primarily for gaming, streaming, and video editing/rendering. My upgrade cycle is 2-3 years and I would like to build it within the next 2 weeks. I require an Operating System and would like it to be Overlock/Crossfire ready (Though I plan on getting the second GC some time after, unless I need to buy it at the same time, in which case I will not be using Crossfire) I plan on buying most if not all my parts from Newegg as I live in the United States, unless I could get some of the parts cheaper from my local Best Buy or from Amazon. I also plan to re-use my old tower instead of buying a new one (It's an Alienware Aurora R5) if I need to buy a new tower please let me know as well. I looked on Newegg to build something but since I don't know that much, if you could tell me what I could change to save money or boost performance a little cheap that would be great, or if a different build would be better overall. + Show Spoiler + CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 $219.99 Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837 $139.99 Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 $124.99 Video Card: ASUS GTX650TI-O-1GD5 GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121686 $139.99 Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476 $84.99 Hard Drive: Intel 335 Series Jay Crest SSDSC2CT180A4K5 2.5" 180GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - OEM Reseller Box - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167151 $174.99 Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416550 $99.99 Total Price: $984.93 Thanks in advance for any help. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 13 2013 16:47 Johnnycashew wrote:+ Show Spoiler + First time building a computer myself, so I'm obviously out of my depth on this one. For reference this is my current computer's specs that I got from Alienware years ago (2008 I think) + Show Spoiler + Memory (RAM): 3071 MB CPU Info: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5800+ CPU Speed: 3007.5 MHz Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 | RDPDD Chained DD | RDP Encoder Mirror Driver Screen Resolution: 1920 X 1080 - 32 bit CD / DVD Drives: 2x (D: | E: | ) D: HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22NP20 | E: MagicISOVirtual DVD-ROM Hard Disks: C: 458.1GB BIOS Info: AT/AT COMPATIBLE | 08/22/08 | ALWARE - 20080822 Motherboard *: ASUSTeK Computer INC. M3A32-MVP DELUXE I would like to keep my budget within the $900-$1000 mark. My resolution is 1920x1080, and plan on using it primarily for gaming, streaming, and video editing/rendering. My upgrade cycle is 2-3 years and I would like to build it within the next 2 weeks. I require an Operating System and would like it to be Overlock/Crossfire ready (Though I plan on getting the second GC some time after, unless I need to buy it at the same time, in which case I will not be using Crossfire) I plan on buying most if not all my parts from Newegg as I live in the United States, unless I could get some of the parts cheaper from my local Best Buy or from Amazon. I also plan to re-use my old tower instead of buying a new one (It's an Alienware Aurora R5) if I need to buy a new tower please let me know as well. I looked on Newegg to build something but since I don't know that much, if you could tell me what I could change to save money or boost performance a little cheap that would be great, or if a different build would be better overall. + Show Spoiler + CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 $219.99 Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837 $139.99 Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 $124.99 Video Card: ASUS GTX650TI-O-1GD5 GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121686 $139.99 Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476 $84.99 Hard Drive: Intel 335 Series Jay Crest SSDSC2CT180A4K5 2.5" 180GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - OEM Reseller Box - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167151 $174.99 Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416550 $99.99 Total Price: $984.93 Thanks in advance for any help. The Alienware Aurora is mATX so you would need an mATX motherboard. A 650w power supply is more than sufficient for a GTX 650 Ti SLI configuration. The Rosewill Capstone 650 is just as good as the Corsair HX and is typically less expensive. The difference between 2133MHz and 1600MHz is not noticeable in gaming. Waste money on other parts first, like the GPU where the performance difference can actually be seen. You'd also want an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking. | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On June 13 2013 16:47 Johnnycashew wrote: First time building a computer myself, so I'm obviously out of my depth on this one. For reference this is my current computer's specs that I got from Alienware years ago (2008 I think) + Show Spoiler + Memory (RAM): 3071 MB CPU Info: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5800+ CPU Speed: 3007.5 MHz Display Adapters: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 | RDPDD Chained DD | RDP Encoder Mirror Driver Screen Resolution: 1920 X 1080 - 32 bit CD / DVD Drives: 2x (D: | E: | ) D: HL-DT-STDVD-RAM GH22NP20 | E: MagicISOVirtual DVD-ROM Hard Disks: C: 458.1GB BIOS Info: AT/AT COMPATIBLE | 08/22/08 | ALWARE - 20080822 Motherboard *: ASUSTeK Computer INC. M3A32-MVP DELUXE I would like to keep my budget within the $900-$1000 mark. My resolution is 1920x1080, and plan on using it primarily for gaming, streaming, and video editing/rendering. My upgrade cycle is 2-3 years and I would like to build it within the next 2 weeks. I require an Operating System and would like it to be Overlock/Crossfire ready (Though I plan on getting the second GC some time after, unless I need to buy it at the same time, in which case I will not be using Crossfire) I plan on buying most if not all my parts from Newegg as I live in the United States, unless I could get some of the parts cheaper from my local Best Buy or from Amazon. I also plan to re-use my old tower instead of buying a new one (It's an Alienware Aurora R5) if I need to buy a new tower please let me know as well. I looked on Newegg to build something but since I don't know that much, if you could tell me what I could change to save money or boost performance a little cheap that would be great, or if a different build would be better overall. + Show Spoiler + CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 $219.99 Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837 $139.99 Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series HX750 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 $124.99 Video Card: ASUS GTX650TI-O-1GD5 GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121686 $139.99 Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476 $84.99 Hard Drive: Intel 335 Series Jay Crest SSDSC2CT180A4K5 2.5" 180GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - OEM Reseller Box - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167151 $174.99 Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416550 $99.99 Total Price: $984.93 Thanks in advance for any help. SLI 260s are still pretty powerful, so a cheap upgrade would be get a Z87 mobo, an i5 4670k, a cooler (depends how much oc you want on what you get), and an ssd (samsung 840 is the go to). Also some RAM, the 2133mhz ones you chose are fine but 1600mhz is enough and usually cheaper. If your current PSU is functional no reason to get a new one. With this you can add in one or more GPUs in a later upgrade. On CPU, if you are doing serious video editing it might be worth looking at i7s. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15UPq PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter) Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($145.85 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ NCIX US) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ Outlet PC) Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg) Total: $875.78 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-13 04:14 EDT-0400) Quality over price savings on some parts; 840 pro is among the best SSD's, 1tb caviar black is i think one of the best HDD's (though i didn't see any benchmarks, honestly) and Rosewill Capstone 650w which is a great PSU and will take two 7850's + an overclocked CPU without issue. A step up on the graphics card, some 1600mhz cas9 1.5v 2x4gb RAM without annoying heatspreaders (not too important). The motherboard and CPU there's some extra paid for overclocking capability, and it's assumed to budget ~$30-70 towards an aftermarket cooler though i was not sure which to reccomend in the US. You can shift budget up/down some from this if you want. If you don't want to overclock, you can save a bit by not getting a "k" CPU, and not needing a z87 motherboard (you can get other chipset boards not designed for overclocking which i assume to be cheaper) but i would reccomend it, as it is still relatively easy and gives good returns. I guess this assumes buying a new case too; but you don't have to buy OS, microsoft wouldn't let me reactivate my windows copy when i replaced my motherboard so i can confirm first hand that it takes about 20 seconds to validate windows with a keygen, unless you want to pay $100 extra for that. I wouldn't reccomend the SLI 260 route for a premium build; A single 7850 will walk all over a pair of SLI 260's (while being a ton more power efficient) and also give you the option for crossfire later, when AMD fixes crossfire in a month or so; They are rewriting all of the frame-pacing code from the ground up and results look very promising there towards fixing the issues with multi-GPU - though it's a nice cost saving method to SLI 260's, if you can get another 260 that matches yours. Be careful if you do that though, they have varying amounts of VRAM i think and some have more cores enabled than others. Mine is 216 core, but i think they were sold with 192 or something in that area before enabled, which could maybe cause issues with SLI | ||
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Zackor
United States9 Posts
$1200-1500 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Primarily gaming, Streaming, College What is your upgrade cycle? 5 Yr When do you plan on building it? Within a Month Do you plan on overclocking? Nope. Do you need an Operating System? Yes Win 7 or 8 Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Nope. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg, Tiger, Frys, Best Buy, ect. I was thinking something like this: Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146085 1TB HD - 7200 RPM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148912 Corsair 750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 Coolermaster 212 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 128 SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233395 i7 3770k , gtx 660ti, ASUS sabertooth Z77, 16gb RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1307754 _____________________________________________________________________________ Im noob to PC building, so would appreciate any help. (1st time) also if i forget anything tell me! Please! ________________________________________________________________________________________ Would I need the new i7 4770k to last 5 years? then add i7 4770k, Z87 , 750 Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1324798 and gtx 660 ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121656 and subtract other power supply _______________________________________________________________________________________ Would you suggest gtx 670? based on what i want/need? Thanks! | ||
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Johnnycashew
16 Posts
On June 13 2013 17:11 Cyro wrote: + Show Spoiler + Johnnycashew, i'd reccomend something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15UPq PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter) Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($145.85 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ NCIX US) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ Outlet PC) Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg) Total: $875.78 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-13 04:14 EDT-0400) Quality over price savings on some parts; 840 pro is among the best SSD's, 1tb caviar black is i think one of the best HDD's (though i didn't see any benchmarks, honestly) and Rosewill Capstone 650w which is a great PSU and will take two 7850's + an overclocked CPU without issue. A step up on the graphics card, some 1600mhz cas9 1.5v 2x4gb RAM without annoying heatspreaders (not too important). The motherboard and CPU there's some extra paid for overclocking capability, and it's assumed to budget ~$30-70 towards an aftermarket cooler though i was not sure which to reccomend in the US. You can shift budget up/down some from this if you want. If you don't want to overclock, you can save a bit by not getting a "k" CPU, and not needing a z87 motherboard (you can get other chipset boards not designed for overclocking which i assume to be cheaper) but i would reccomend it, as it is still relatively easy and gives good returns. I guess this assumes buying a new case too; but you don't have to buy OS, microsoft wouldn't let me reactivate my windows copy when i replaced my motherboard so i can confirm first hand that it takes about 20 seconds to validate windows with a keygen, unless you want to pay $100 extra for that. Would it be possible for me to forgo the Caviar Black and just use my old HD to invest in a tower and AM Cooler since I won't have to actually buy a new OS? I won't be doing any crazy hardcore video editing, mostly basic clip editing and Live Streaming. On June 13 2013 17:02 Blaec wrote: If your current PSU is functional no reason to get a new one. My current PSU works but about a year and a half ago it took a hit from a power surge and sometimes doesn't like to power anything on rare occasion. I have since bought a UPS to remedy further incidents. I would rather just build a brand new machine and maybe use the old HD for storing recording footage and maybe some music if possible. If I can't use my old tower to make a decent machine I'll just buy a new one. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 13 2013 17:23 Zackor wrote:+ Show Spoiler + What is your budget? $1200-1500 What is your resolution? 1920x1080 What are you using it for? Primarily gaming, Streaming, College What is your upgrade cycle? 5 Yr When do you plan on building it? Within a Month Do you plan on overclocking? Nope. Do you need an Operating System? Yes Win 7 or 8 Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Nope. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg, Tiger, Frys, Best Buy, ect. I was thinking something like this: Case: NZXT Phantom 410 Mid Tower http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146085 1TB HD - 7200 RPM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148912 Corsair 750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 Coolermaster 212 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 128 SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233395 i7 3770k , gtx 660ti, ASUS sabertooth Z77, 16gb RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1307754 _____________________________________________________________________________ Im noob to PC building, so would appreciate any help. (1st time) also if i forget anything tell me! Please! ________________________________________________________________________________________ Would I need the new i7 4770k to last 5 years? then add i7 4770k, Z87 , 750 Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1324798 and gtx 660 ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121656 and subtract other power supply _______________________________________________________________________________________ Would you suggest gtx 670? based on what i want/need? Thanks! Corsair Force is overpriced, you're just paying for Corsair. Samsung 840 Pro is better than it. A 750w unit is extremely unnecessary, even for a SLI / CrossfireX configuration which you aren't doing. A ~500w unit like the Rosewill Capstone 450 is more than sufficient for the typical gaming configuration. 16gb of memory is not necessary for gaming unless you are running VMs / multi-boxing of the sort. You do not need an aftermarket heatsink or a Z series board or a K suffix processor if you are not overclocking. The provided Intel heatsink is sufficient, you want the less expensive H series boards that are not for overclocking, and a non-K suffix processor that are not for overclocking. Not a huge difference between a 4770 and 3770. You don't need an enterprise drive, a consumer drive like a Seagate Barracuda or Western Digital Blue is fine. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On June 13 2013 17:29 Johnnycashew wrote: Would it be possible for me to forgo the Caviar Black and just use my old HD to invest in a tower and AM Cooler since I won't have to actually buy a new OS? I won't be doing any crazy hardcore video editing, mostly basic clip editing and Live Streaming. My current PSU works but about a year and a half ago it took a hit from a power surge and sometimes doesn't like to power anything on rare occasion. I have since bought a UPS to remedy further incidents. I would rather just build a brand new machine and maybe use the old HD for storing recording footage and maybe some music if possible. If I can't use my old tower to make a decent machine I'll just buy a new one. Yea sure you can drop the 1tb HDD. There's quite a lot of upgrade/downgrade options for various components here too | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On June 13 2013 17:11 Cyro wrote: + Show Spoiler + Johnnycashew, i'd reccomend something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15UPq PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter) Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($145.85 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ NCIX US) Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ Outlet PC) Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg) Total: $875.78 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-13 04:14 EDT-0400) Quality over price savings on some parts; 840 pro is among the best SSD's, 1tb caviar black is i think one of the best HDD's (though i didn't see any benchmarks, honestly) and Rosewill Capstone 650w which is a great PSU and will take two 7850's + an overclocked CPU without issue. A step up on the graphics card, some 1600mhz cas9 1.5v 2x4gb RAM without annoying heatspreaders (not too important). The motherboard and CPU there's some extra paid for overclocking capability, and it's assumed to budget ~$30-70 towards an aftermarket cooler though i was not sure which to reccomend in the US. You can shift budget up/down some from this if you want. If you don't want to overclock, you can save a bit by not getting a "k" CPU, and not needing a z87 motherboard (you can get other chipset boards not designed for overclocking which i assume to be cheaper) but i would reccomend it, as it is still relatively easy and gives good returns. I guess this assumes buying a new case too; but you don't have to buy OS, microsoft wouldn't let me reactivate my windows copy when i replaced my motherboard so i can confirm first hand that it takes about 20 seconds to validate windows with a keygen, unless you want to pay $100 extra for that. I wouldn't reccomend the SLI 260 route for a premium build; A single 7850 will walk all over a pair of SLI 260's (while being a ton more power efficient) and also give you the option for crossfire later, when AMD fixes crossfire in a month or so; They are rewriting all of the frame-pacing code from the ground up and results look very promising there towards fixing the issues with multi-GPU - though it's a nice cost saving method to SLI 260's, if you can get another 260 that matches yours. Be careful if you do that though, they have varying amounts of VRAM i think and some have more cores enabled than others. Mine is 216 core, but i think they were sold with 192 or something in that area before enabled, which could maybe cause issues with SLI I thought he had SLI 260s in there? I agree it definitely isn't worth buying another 260. On June 13 2013 17:29 Johnnycashew wrote: Would it be possible for me to forgo the Caviar Black and just use my old HD to invest in a tower and AM Cooler since I won't have to actually buy a new OS? I won't be doing any crazy hardcore video editing, mostly basic clip editing and Live Streaming. My current PSU works but about a year and a half ago it took a hit from a power surge and sometimes doesn't like to power anything on rare occasion. I have since bought a UPS to remedy further incidents. I would rather just build a brand new machine and maybe use the old HD for storing recording footage and maybe some music if possible. If I can't use my old tower to make a decent machine I'll just buy a new one. Fair enough, might as well replace it. You can definitely keep the old HDD. If you have win7, keep it. You can keep your tower, but just have to get a mATX mobo as Skyr said and putting two GPUs in a mATX case gets cramped and hot. | ||
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Johnnycashew
16 Posts
On June 13 2013 17:32 Cyro wrote: Yea sure you can drop the 1tb HDD. There's quite a lot of upgrade/downgrade options for various components here too So it would be within my budget to drop the 1TB drive, get a new tower (I'm assuming I need to at this point) and an AM Cooler, and just re-use my current Optical Drives and Hard Drive? Sorry if I sound repetitive or dumb, like I said, first time really trying to understand how Computers work and can be built. Is there any specific type of tower I should look for, or would any case do? I ask because I am looking at this one right now: COUGAR Challenger Black Steel ATX Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811553008 $75.99 EDIT: On June 13 2013 17:40 Blaec wrote: Fair enough, might as well replace it. You can definitely keep the old HDD. If you have win7, keep it. You can keep your tower, but just have to get a mATX mobo as Skyr said and putting two GPUs in a mATX case gets cramped and hot. I have Windows Vista Home. It's nice to know about the tower and GPU thing, I assumed that I had enough room as the tower is larger than ones I have seen before (Excluding my new roommate's THOR tower) | ||
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Zackor
United States9 Posts
On June 13 2013 17:31 skyR wrote: Corsair Force is overpriced, you're just paying for Corsair. Samsung 840 Pro is better than it. A 750w unit is extremely unnecessary, even for a SLI / CrossfireX configuration which you aren't doing. A ~500w unit like the Rosewill Capstone 450 is more than sufficient for the typical gaming configuration. 16gb of memory is not necessary for gaming unless you are running VMs / multi-boxing of the sort. You do not need an aftermarket heatsink or a Z series board or a K suffix processor if you are not overclocking. The provided Intel heatsink is sufficient, you want the less expensive H series boards that are not for overclocking, and a non-K suffix processor that are not for overclocking. Not a huge difference between a 4770 and 3770. You don't need an enterprise drive, a consumer drive like a Seagate Barracuda or Western Digital Blue is fine. On June 13 2013 17:30 Cyro wrote: Zackor, what games are you playing, what do you want to play etc? Sc2 Mostly, Lots of Steam games (TF2, COD, + more), MMO's (WoW, Rift, SWTOR, NeverWinter) but thinking of the future (maybe BF3 or something) ok! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
I have Windows Vista Home Burn it. And Zackor, you can make a pretty sick rig for 1.2-1.5k. I think you should reconsider overclocking, and i'l throw up parts list if you want | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On June 13 2013 17:44 Johnnycashew wrote: So it would be within my budget to drop the 1TB drive, get a new tower (I'm assuming I need to at this point) and an AM Cooler, and just re-use my current Optical Drives and Hard Drive? Sorry if I sound repetitive or dumb, like I said, first time really trying to understand how Computers work and can be built. Is there any specific type of tower I should look for, or would any case do? I ask because I am looking at this one right now: COUGAR Challenger Black Steel ATX Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811553008 $75.99 EDIT: I have Windows Vista Home. It's nice to know about the tower and GPU thing, I assumed that I had enough room as the tower is larger than ones I have seen before (Excluding my new roommate's THOR tower) Bugger vista, I would pick up win7. Keeping the optical drives and HDD is fine as long as the opticals don't have thick tape connectors connecting them to the mobo (unlikely). It depends what your case is like, you should be able to eyeball whether there is room for another GPU with space for air to move around. If you get a new tower, you want usb 3.0 front ports, check these ports are in a convenient place for your desk setup. Otherwise just get one with at least two fans and something you like the look of, its just a case, you can't do too much wrong. | ||
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Zackor
United States9 Posts
On June 13 2013 17:58 Cyro wrote: Burn it. And Zackor, you can make a pretty sick rig for 1.2-1.5k. I think you should reconsider overclocking, and i'l throw up parts list if you want Sent PM, Im noob, so figured would just put it together and hope it works lol, Maybe later over clock. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On June 13 2013 17:44 Johnnycashew wrote: I have Windows Vista Home. It's nice to know about the tower and GPU thing, I assumed that I had enough room as the tower is larger than ones I have seen before (Excluding my new roommate's THOR tower) About that Vista, I think you can buy Windows Upgrade instead of the normal version. That should save you $50 or something? I don't quite know how to install it, if you need to have Vista running to get access to the setup program on the upgrade version of Windows. I'm pretty sure you can ignore the media you'll get shipped, instead download the real Windows media yourself and put it on a USB flash drive, then use the Windows Upgrade product key as if it's a normal Windows version. The product keys should actually be exactly the same, no difference between the upgrade and the normal Windows. You are also not cheating on the license as you really have that Windows Vista which you won't use anywhere. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On June 13 2013 18:13 Zackor wrote: Sent PM, Im noob, so figured would just put it together and hope it works lol, Maybe later over clock. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/15VtT PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter) Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($145.85 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ NCIX US) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($649.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon) Total: $1380.79 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.) (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-13 05:26 EDT-0400) This is pretty much my go-to destroy everything gaming build. It's top end of the budget if you assume buying a case and allocating ~$30-70 on a CPU cooler; again no OS, it's pretty similar to the other i posted. Of course you can step down from the 780 if you want to spend less. or maybe get a smaller hdd; That seemed like a good price for a good 3tb drive | ||
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