EPTComputer Build Resource Thread - Page 1480
| Forum Index > Tech Support |
When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly. | ||
|
Belial88
United States5217 Posts
| ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
I have a feeling he'll do the complete opposite of what i recommended Of course, that's what most people do =P "If you come to tech support because you don't know what you're doing, let them help you, you don't know what you're doing" etcetc | ||
|
Belial88
United States5217 Posts
| ||
|
Sein
United States1811 Posts
Is there another "flood" somewhere?  | ||
|
Ata
Canada356 Posts
On May 04 2013 02:29 FlilFlam wrote: You certainly have my interest peaked regarding overclocking. I have 1000$ canadian dollars and i want to get the biggest bang for my buck, and if overclocking gets me there then i would go for it. Your signature gives a link to an interesting build with a 3770k CPU. Originally that's what i wanted to build my computer around but i was recommended to step down to a Xeon under the pretense of budgeting and getting a better GPU, but you're making me reconsider.. I want to play sc2 on basically all low settings except for textures and effects and stream it comfortably in a decent resolution (720 p i guess) i have 20 Mbps down and 1.8 Mbps Up. Performance is important to me when it comes to in game battles with large numbers of units, so if CPU overclocking is how i achieve performance than should i go i5 or i7? My case is quite old, it's regular ATX form factor though, i think. I've also got windows xp 32 bit so i need to upgrade. And, i've got my monitor... I'm prepared to wait for deals and accumulate my parts over the period of a month or so. I'm also prepared to do in-store pickups to anything that is near Halifax, Nova-Scotia, Canada. With most of your suggestions here is an updated list of parts. I still don't know which processor i should get though, unfortunately im not going to be able to buy that CPU cooler because i don't have my payment method set up yet, but i can see that it would be an excellent buy. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/UL77 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($132.86 @ Newegg) Memory: Mushkin Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.21 @ NCIX US) Storage: A-Data S510 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($66.99 @ Amazon) Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($94.44 @ Amazon) Total: $577.48 Those are US stores, some charge alot in shipping/"duty/import" and others dont even ship to Canada, if you need help putting a build together, just answer the questions in the OP and I/others can put something together for you. | ||
|
Ata
Canada356 Posts
On May 04 2013 10:06 Sein wrote: What in the world is going on with RAM prices these days? I remember I got my 1600 8GB for $35 or something and that was not even considered to be a very good deal about 6-7 months ago since deals popped up for similar RAMs under $30 relatively frequently. They were so cheap that Newegg often included them in a bundle with motherboards. Now the same pair of sticks are $65. Is there another "flood" somewhere? If im not mistaken, production facilities are being used to make memory for laptop and handheld devices pushing supply down and prices up. | ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
| ||
|
Belial88
United States5217 Posts
| ||
|
FlilFlam
Canada109 Posts
On May 04 2013 10:11 Ata wrote: Those are US stores, some charge alot in shipping/"duty/import" and others dont even ship to Canada, if you need help putting a build together, just answer the questions in the OP and I/others can put something together for you. As requested  + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? 1000 Canadian dollars What is your resolution? My monitor tells me that 1360x768 is its native resolution but i usually just use 1280x768. I don't find a big difference between them. What are you using it for? I want to play and stream Starcraft 2. For now my upload rate is low so I'll be streaming at 20-25 fps only and at whatever resolution it will allow for without lag. I will play other games but i don't care about maximum graphics and i don't play anything too GPU intensive anyhow. What is your upgrade cycle? I would upgrade the GPU in 1-2 years and add RAM if required. It would be nice to have a long lasting and powerful CPU. When do you plan on building it? Over the next 1-2 months, as soon as i get a personal prepaid credit card i would like to start acquiring parts Do you plan on overclocking? Belial convinced me that overclocking is in my best interest if i want to get the most out of my CPU for streaming and starcraft (i hate it when large numbers of zerglings cause fps lag), but whatever is best for my budget is what i would buy. Do you need an Operating System? Yes. I have windows XP 32 bit so i am pretty sure i need to upgrade Where are you buying your parts from? I will be able to buy parts from wherever accepts visa or master card and delivers to Canada i reckon, also any store in reasonable range of Halifax nova scotia. Best buy is pretty much the only major relevant store i can think of. | ||
|
skyR
Canada13817 Posts
| ||
|
drew-chan
Malaysia1517 Posts
| ||
|
Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Overclocking, a lot of details yet to be seen, looking decent though | ||
|
AhOhitzXray
United States48 Posts
| ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On May 04 2013 19:50 AhOhitzXray wrote: I just got a new high paying job as a 19 year old gamer. (around $16/hour) I want to build a computer that can run sc2 and other games on highest quality while being able to stream at the same time, without frame rate issues. the price range cap is around $1000. Any advice on what i should get would be wonderful and very appreciated. ^^ At the top of this thread: When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly. The very first spoiler in FragKrag's OP tells you to use the list so people can help you in the best way possible. Please fill it out. | ||
|
bode927
United States164 Posts
I'm getting close to ordering at this point and I welcome some constructive criticism on what I have here. Budget: Kinda at max right now at around $1350. Don't wanna go any higher unless I have a damn good reason Resolution: 1920 x 1080 Use: Gaming, watching stream, playing 1080p video, internet browsing. Upgrade Cycle: I like to buy a new PC once every 3-4 years to keep things somewhat relevant. When I'm building: As soon as this build gets approved by a few different sources I'm ordering and building. Overclocking: I'll probably do some light to moderate overclocking, and I think I've bought the equipment to handle that. I'm not very experienced at it though, so I'm not gonna go nuts or anything. Where I'm buying from: Some from Newegg and some from Microcenter. That's the cheapest way. No, I don't need an OS, nor will I be doing SLI CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($220.98 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($95.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg) Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg) Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($18.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($148.54 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1354.42 | ||
|
skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Microcenter has the 3570k for $190 (or $170 if that sale is still going on). The Z77X UD3H is $105 at Microcenter when purchased with the 3570k. The Samsung 840 is like $90 or $80 at Microcenter. While Seasonic Platinum 660 is an excellent power supply, it's overkill for a non-SLI configuration and for an above average configuration, I wouldn't recommend spending nearly $70 over units that are a bit worse like the Rosewill Capstone 450 or Rosewill Fortress. The Carbide 500R is $100, not $80. Only $80 after mail in rebate. Same with the GTX 670, it's $400 and $380 after mail in rebate. If you want to factor mail in rebates into the total, there may be better choices for some of the components. Corsair H100i is overkill for light overclocking. A Hyper 212 or Xigmatek Gaia for ~$25 is more than adequate. | ||
|
Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
*Bit of an exaggeration. There are 7970s available for €360 euro here, I would have expected dollar equivalents in the States. Still, about 400 dollars for a much better card, plus a lot of free, premium games. Wow, you can get 7970s for €330 here these days  | ||
|
bode927
United States164 Posts
On May 05 2013 17:39 skyR wrote: You said you are buying some from Microcenter so not sure why you're listing Newegg pricing? Microcenter has the 3570k for $190 (or $170 if that sale is still going on). The Z77X UD3H is $105 at Microcenter when purchased with the 3570k. The Samsung 840 is like $90 or $80 at Microcenter. Yeah, I know about MicroCenter's pricing and I'm taking advantage of it. The prices on my list are not really accurate, I didn't type them in myself. I used the PcPartsPicker website to make the list look all nice and pretty and organized for this forum post, and it just posts all the newegg prices after rebates automatically. I am purchasing my mobo, processor, SSD, and HDD from microcenter, while the rest will be from newegg because of the free shipping, no tax, and rebates. While Seasonic Platinum 660 is an excellent power supply, it's overkill for a non-SLI configuration and for an above average configuration, I wouldn't recommend spending nearly $70 over units that are a bit worse like the Rosewill Capstone 450 or Rosewill Fortress. Yeah I know it's overkill for my system, but hey it's a good brand, its fully modular including the motherboard power cables where the Rosewill modular PSUs are not actually 100% modular. This will be nice for cable management. And I know that it will supply a good steady constant voltage being that it's platinum, even though I won't necessarily utilize it fully with my system. It's nice to have things that are nice though. The Carbide 500R is $100, not $80. Only $80 after mail in rebate. Same with the GTX 670, it's $400 and $380 after mail in rebate. If you want to factor mail in rebates into the total, there may be better choices for some of the components. I picked the Carbide 500R because of the combination of the aesthetically pleasing appearance, included case fans, quality and price. Same with the Gigabyte GTX 670 that I selected. It's a quality brand and comes with the nice 3 fan windforce cooler in case I feel like tweaking the speeds a bit. Corsair H100i is overkill for light overclocking. A Hyper 212 or Xigmatek Gaia for ~$25 is more than adequate. Yeah I know that it is overkill again, but I may change my mind if I get bored and decide to overclock a decent amount once I get around to tinkering with it, we'll see. Plus I've never had a liquid cooler before, and this one is made to fit right on top of this case under the air vent. Nice and perfect .On May 05 2013 21:55 Gumbi wrote: And why would you get a 670 when you can get a 7970 for the same or less?? *Bit of an exaggeration. There are 7970s available for €360 euro here, I would have expected dollar equivalents in the States. Still, about 400 dollars for a much better card, plus a lot of free, premium games. Wow, you can get 7970s for €330 here these days Yeah, I know the 7970 is a little cheaper and comes with cool games, but I've always been an NVIDIA fanboy. Plus, simple benchmarks like this one: Video Card Benchmark have the GTX 670 edging out the 7970 by about 5.5% in performance. I realize that test is just a compilation average but still. The game package is tempting though. | ||
|
iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
EDIT: I saw your reply. BRANDS MEAN NOTHING, ONLY THE QUALITY OF SPECIFIC ITEMS DESERVE PRAISE. | ||
|
bode927
United States164 Posts
On May 05 2013 23:08 iTzSnypah wrote: I would say GTX 660(or 7870 / 7870 XT) and 240GB SSD no HDD. EDIT: I saw your reply. BRANDS MEAN NOTHING, ONLY THE QUALITY OF SPECIFIC ITEMS DESERVE PRAISE. I thought about the 660 TI for a while but decided I wanted a little bit better card for future games, since I'll probably have this system for the next 3-4 years. And as far as no HDD goes, I thought about that too, but I need the storage for large 1080p video files such as blu ray digital downloads and such. I don't want to pay for a TB of SSD space. As far as the brands mean nothing thing, I assume you're referring to my comment about Seasonic. This particular power supply is very good on it's own, even if I don't think about the fact that Seasonic has a good history of strong PSUs. Here are some links Seasonic 660 PLATINUM review #1 Seasonic 660 PLATINUM review #2 I just don't want to skimp on the power supply. I want a good even wattage to all of my components, and this is a quality PSU at a decent price. | ||
| ||
