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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
February 22 2013 19:49 GMT
#27741
My voltage is at 1.32V, my max temperatures are 83 on full load with intelburntest (at maximum settings)


You can add 10c for hyperthreading and like 20c for sandybridge to ivy. At that point you are definately heat limited to a large degree and probably wouldnt get past like 4.4ghz. Its on the edge of attainability, but in the end i think even with overclocked haswell i7 it wont be worth it.. game performance is just impacted too much.. FPS loss at least seems to be close to linear with increasing resolution or FPS (at least with one method i tested), so 1920x1080, 60fps would be 5.5x harder than 1280x720, 30fps in terms of performance loss. Thats incredibly scary, sc2 already brings any system to its knees in single threated performance, something like that anchoring your framerates on top of that is not good at all
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
February 23 2013 04:10 GMT
#27742
It's alright to do this, right? (3-pin fan in a 4-pin slot)

[image loading]
twitch.tv/cratonz
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 23 2013 04:33 GMT
#27743
Assuming you plugged it in the wrong way (ugh, can't remember which it goes without the diagram), yeah.

Pins are (1) ground, (2) +12V, (3) sense aka tachometer signal aka rpm reader thingy, (4) PWM control signal. The pins for the 3-pin connection are the same, just without the PWM, so they are pin-compatible. No problem just running straight +12V (unless you'd prefer sending less energy so they run slower).
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 05:23:05
February 23 2013 05:21 GMT
#27744
It can only be plugged in one way; it has two slots on one side to enforce this. On this particular feed thingy the 3rd pin slot is empty (between the PWM and the other 2 pins). Seems like it's perfectly fine.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 06:06:27
February 23 2013 06:04 GMT
#27745
Oh yeah, durr brain fart. The right thing to say is that they don't let you plug it in the wrong way. Anyway, all these fans need are just some voltage difference between two wires that is great enough to do something useful yet small enough not to cause damage (generally under 13.2V is okay). The rest is extra. No need to worry, unless you've got some high-rpm server fan banshee that's drawing more power that you should be off of one of those headers. Depends on the mobo, but about 1A (so 12W) is a typical limit.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
February 23 2013 06:15 GMT
#27746
They're low RPM ones. Power draw shouldn't be an issue.
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Slipspace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 21:39:01
February 23 2013 21:38 GMT
#27747
how's this build? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FtLh

the ram comes with the motherboard so it comes to right around 1000$

im going to be playing SC2 mostly occasionally streaming so AMD is out of the question
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
February 23 2013 21:41 GMT
#27748
You have two wireless cards? PSU is way overkill. The ram is overpriced by like 20 dollars. If you're only playing sc2 why are you getting a 7950 with 3gigs of ram? Are you playing on three screens at once?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 23 2013 21:42 GMT
#27749
7950 is overkill for Starcraft 2

650w is overkill as well, a Rosewill Capstone 450 is significantly better and more than adequate
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 23 2013 21:43 GMT
#27750
Do someone knows the performance difference between a radeon 4850 1GO and a 7770 1GO ? Is the upgrade worth it ?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 23 2013 22:15 GMT
#27751
On February 24 2013 06:43 MrCon wrote:
Do someone knows the performance difference between a radeon 4850 1GO and a 7770 1GO ? Is the upgrade worth it ?

Something around like double performance. Maybe HD 7850 is a better idea though, depending on prices.
Slipspace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States381 Posts
February 23 2013 22:18 GMT
#27752
On February 24 2013 06:42 skyR wrote:
7950 is overkill for Starcraft 2

650w is overkill as well, a Rosewill Capstone 450 is significantly better and more than adequate


im going to play other games as well just mostly SC2 so i wanted something pretty decent since its within my budget

didnt mean to put two wireless cards in there

thx for the psu tip as well
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 23 2013 22:59 GMT
#27753
On February 24 2013 07:15 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2013 06:43 MrCon wrote:
Do someone knows the performance difference between a radeon 4850 1GO and a 7770 1GO ? Is the upgrade worth it ?

Something around like double performance. Maybe HD 7850 is a better idea though, depending on prices.

95€ for the 7770 and 145€ for the 7850.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 23:12:22
February 23 2013 23:08 GMT
#27754
Nevermind, HD 7770 is fine then. The difference used to be a lot smaller.

edit: on second thought, that ratio is about what it is in the US and other places these days. I'm out of touch and must be thinking of HD 7770 prices from closer to launch.

The performance difference is significant, but now the prices reflect that.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 23:28:17
February 23 2013 23:24 GMT
#27755
Well, if I go from 8go to 4go ram (-20€) and from a nice case to a "good" noname (another -20€) the overall price stay the nearly the same, not sure about the 4go tho, even if my current config has only 2 so it'll be an upgrade still.
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
February 24 2013 01:14 GMT
#27756
What's the diff between the i7-3770 and 3770k? I heard something about overclocking but not too sure..
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 24 2013 01:21 GMT
#27757
On February 24 2013 10:14 AngryFarmer wrote:
What's the diff between the i7-3770 and 3770k? I heard something about overclocking but not too sure..

i7-3770k has unlocked multiplier for overclocking (i7-3770 limited to ~400 MHz overclock; i7-3770k is not).

Also, unimportantly for most people asking, i7-3770k has the superior HD 4000 integrated graphics, as compared to HD 2500 on the i7-3770. It doesn't support vPro or VT-d whereas the normal i7-3770 does, which are virtualization features that you don't care about unless you already know what they are.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
February 24 2013 01:46 GMT
#27758
question: I am replacing stock fan of i5 3570k in the asrock z-77 pro4-m with a xigmatek gaia sd1283 so I can overclock. do I have to apply thermal paste if it was applied previously? or do I just remove the stock fan, put the new back piece and place the heat sink on the screws on the other side without the paste?
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-24 02:00:56
February 24 2013 01:48 GMT
#27759
On February 24 2013 10:46 xeo1 wrote:
question: I am replacing stock fan of i5 3570k in the asrock z-77 pro4-m with a xigmatek gaia sd1283 so I can overclock. do I have to apply thermal paste if it was applied previously? or do I just remove the stock fan, put the new back piece and place the heat sink on the screws on the other side without the paste?


Wipe off the old thermal paste. Then put new stuff on and clamp the fan down.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-24 02:00:48
February 24 2013 01:48 GMT
#27760
Delete. Double post
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