EPTComputer Build Resource Thread - Page 1339
| Forum Index > Tech Support |
When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly. | ||
|
Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
| ||
|
FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
But anyway, equivalent units tend to be sold at ~80€ while you can sometimes find the Rosewill one for ~60-65€ in local retailer and "some" sites | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
If you're not, I've talking to no one/nothing again. Still a set of quite affordable 80+ Gold PSU that aren't complete shit though. | ||
|
masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On January 08 2013 21:57 Ata wrote: It is kinda crazy that you are spending $1300 and cant afford a SSD. (maybe you dont want one, I dont know). Your parts are really not at bargain prices. For example: your ram is 25% more expensive than it should be, 660Ti at 300? :o and.... I couldn't find your post with the questions from the OP answered but my understanding is that you want the PC for general gaming + streaming. Its kinda important to know which games you play and plan on playing in addition to your resolution before making a recommendation on the GPU. It is also important to know at what resolution and fps you plan to stream. For example, an OCed i5 will be able to stream 720@30 irc and looking that you are from Canada, Im guessing you dont have enough arms and legs to afford the internet that is required for 1080@60. I would be more than happy to put together a build for you if you give us your resolution/games/stream settings if thats what you want. Well That was the prices ncix gave me on them, I don't know what the avg price for the items are. plus I don't really need an ssd, and they don't seem like a good investment given the minor improvement in speed compared to a regular hdd, at leasst given the price. I would just rather have the i7 and not need it, then save 100$ and than in 2-3 months down the line when I might need more power, to not have it. Since I'm going to be streaming at 1080 (if I can pull enough bell teeth to get them to give me the internet I want).and playing the most graphically intense games, as well as doing some video editing and such. | ||
|
skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Pricematch 3770k to $320: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD2249 The Hyper 212 EVO can be pricematched to $29: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/COOLERMASTER/RR_212E_20PK_R2/ Pricematch the P8Z77-M Pro to $136: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD4303 Get this 2x4gb kit instead: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78421 and pricematch it to $36: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC5733 A Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti is available for $265: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75183 , pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/245573/Gigabyte/GV_N66TOC_2GD/ Get a Corsair 200R instead which is significantly better for slightly more: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76376 , pricematch to $51: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC4558 A Thermaltake TR2 sucks. You can get a Corsair TX550M for $5 more: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=62824 A Caviar Blue 1TB is $70, not $79: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1366 Pricematch burner to $15: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR4172 Windows 7 is $98: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1366 This brings your total to $1080 + $50 assembly. | ||
|
Skirmjan
Italy190 Posts
On January 08 2013 12:23 Skirmjan wrote: I need a new pc as mine own is dead or dying T_T, funny thing is, in 10 years of computers they always died in december\january lol answers to the basic questions: + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? in the 600-900€ range, no new monitor nor HDD nor case needed What is your resolution? i'm currently playing mostly at the prehistoric 1024x768, monitor supports 1280x1024 obv with proper hardware behind it. i also own a geforce 520 bought as a temporary fix when the old card broke (an 8600gt,lol) What are you using it for? Mostly gaming and i'd like to have spare power for streaming and retain general versatility... What is your upgrade cycle? 2-3 years, ideally 3+years. When do you plan on building it? asap. Do you plan on overclocking? i've never overclocked before, given my pretty long upgrade cycle i was mostly worried to negatively affect the hardware's life, however i could see myself OCing keeping an eye on that. Do you need an Operating System? no Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? nope. Where are you buying your parts from? i'm european, italian specifically, and will mostly be buying from online stores, amazon.it especially, and search the urban areas around me for good retailer deals. i already own + Show Spoiler + a Acer AL1715 monitor,a Samsung 830 SSD + other HDDs, a Xonar DG audio card (strange,ah?) and a venerable COLORSit EN60950 PSU(450W, 18A on the 12V) which kept up my old computer pretty much flawlessly anyways... also own a geforce 520,as i've already wrote i'd like to avoid Asus motherboards due to bad personal experiences and i have a slight preference towards Nvidia gpus for i always had them working flawlessly here's my first idea: CPU Intel® Core i5-3570K 204€ RAM Corsair 2 x DIMM 4 Gb 240-pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 mhz Vengeance 40€ (couldn't find CAS latency) GPU here i'm kinda out of ideas, i was looking for a 560ti more than a year ago, but it looks like it isn't nearly anymore the bargain in price\performance it used to be,as it is utterly destroyed by the new 600 series, the 670 is apparently its spiritual successor, however i feel like that is too much money and too much overkill,and i have mixed feelings towards 660ti.... and on the ATI\AMD, i'm just clueless PSU OCZ OCZ500MXSP ModXStream Pro 56€ or Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2EU 65€ or even the one i already own already own a coolermaster centurion case many thanks in advance for the help i don't wanna seem impatient, but to me it seems like my post has been overlooked... did i miss something? need to add something else? or am i just unappealing? :D | ||
|
skyR
Canada13817 Posts
A GTX 660 would be the successor to the GTX 560 Ti. OCZ ModXStream Pro is rather old, not the greatest choice of unit today and the CX500v2 is typically not that good for its price. The XFX Core Edition Pro 550 is 59: http://www.amazon.it/XFX-P1550SXXB9-PRO550W/dp/B004RJ8EKI | ||
|
masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On January 09 2013 01:55 skyR wrote: The components are all overpriced and picked out poorly. And the difference between a SSD and HDD is night and day, definitely not a minor improvement. Pricematch 3770k to $320: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200BD2249 The Hyper 212 EVO can be pricematched to $29: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/COOLERMASTER/RR_212E_20PK_R2/ Pricematch the P8Z77-M Pro to $136: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD4303 Get this 2x4gb kit instead: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=78421 and pricematch it to $36: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC5733 A Gigabyte GTX 660 Ti is available for $265: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=75183 , pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/245573/Gigabyte/GV_N66TOC_2GD/ Get a Corsair 200R instead which is significantly better for slightly more: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=76376 , pricematch to $51: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC4558 A Thermaltake TR2 sucks. You can get a Corsair TX550M for $5 more: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=62824 A Caviar Blue 1TB is $70, not $79: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=74462&promoid=1366 Pricematch burner to $15: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950DR4172 Windows 7 is $98: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1366 This brings your total to $1080 + $50 assembly. NCIX doesn't do price matching with custom build pc's, at least it is not allowing me to do so. | ||
|
Skirmjan
Italy190 Posts
On January 09 2013 02:24 skyR wrote: Never heard of your power supply that you own but 18a on the 12v rail indicates that it's a really really old unit not suitable for modern computers and it would not be capable of powering a GTX 660. A GTX 660 would be the successor to the GTX 560 Ti. OCZ ModXStream Pro is rather old, not the greatest choice of unit today and the CX500v2 is typically not that good for its price. The XFX Core Edition Pro 550 is 59: http://www.amazon.it/XFX-P1550SXXB9-PRO550W/dp/B004RJ8EKI yep, that PSU has at least 6-7 years, i was more curious to see if anybody knew it than really expecting it to be useful  it is still workin with no problems, thothe XFX is a rebranded Seasonic, i see, and is really a nice one i guess (i get what 80+ means, but what are the differences between bronze silver and gold?) according to anandtech bench, the 660 holds its ground quite nicely against the 660ti which costs a good 100€ more, if i'm not mistaken,however, how does it fare against other middle class AMD cards? so a good working build would be like: CPU Intel® Core i5-3570K 204€ RAM Corsair 2 x DIMM 4 Gb 240-pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 mhz Vengeance 40€ GPU Geforce GTX 660 + or - 210€ (something like this?http://www.amazon.it/Gigabyte-GV-N660OC-2GD-Scheda-video/dp/B0099AOAUI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1357666557&sr=1-1) PSU XFX PRO550W 68€ (it is actually 68 on amazon due to shipping prices )..... stupid me i forgot the motherboard..... i guess i'll need an help on that one too, luckyly i don't plan on SLI or crossfire Total: 522€ plus mobo should i get a third party air cooler for the CPU? reviews i read say that the intel one is pretty bad... if i wanted to spend like, 100-150 € more should i upgrade the i5 to a 3770K? or should i place them on something else, if ever? thanks for the excellent suggestions,btw | ||
|
skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On January 09 2013 02:54 masterbreti wrote: NCIX doesn't do price matching with custom build pc's, at least it is not allowing me to do so. NCIX does price matching. You add all the components to your cart and then add assembly: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842 You're not suppose to do it through their builder. On January 09 2013 02:56 Skirmjan wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On January 09 2013 02:24 skyR wrote: Never heard of your power supply that you own but 18a on the 12v rail indicates that it's a really really old unit not suitable for modern computers and it would not be capable of powering a GTX 660. A GTX 660 would be the successor to the GTX 560 Ti. OCZ ModXStream Pro is rather old, not the greatest choice of unit today and the CX500v2 is typically not that good for its price. The XFX Core Edition Pro 550 is 59: http://www.amazon.it/XFX-P1550SXXB9-PRO550W/dp/B004RJ8EKI yep, that PSU has at least 6-7 years, i was more curious to see if anybody knew it than really expecting it to be useful it is still workin with no problems, thothe XFX is a rebranded Seasonic, i see, and is really a nice one i guess (i get what 80+ means, but what are the differences between bronze silver and gold?) according to anandtech bench, the 660 holds its ground quite nicely against the 660ti which costs a good 100€ more, if i'm not mistaken,however, how does it fare against other middle class AMD cards? so a good working build would be like: CPU Intel® Core i5-3570K 204€ RAM Corsair 2 x DIMM 4 Gb 240-pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 mhz Vengeance 40€ GPU Geforce GTX 660 + or - 210€ (something like this?http://www.amazon.it/Gigabyte-GV-N660OC-2GD-Scheda-video/dp/B0099AOAUI/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1357666557&sr=1-1) PSU XFX PRO550W 68€ (it is actually 68 on amazon due to shipping prices )Total: 522€ should i get a third party air cooler for the CPU? reviews i read say that the intel one is pretty bad... if i wanted to spend like, 100-150 € more should i upgrade the i5 to a 3770K? or should i place them on something else, if ever? thanks for the excellent suggestions,btw Bronze, silver, gold, and platinum are just the different levels of certification. Nvidia cards generally are worse than AMD equivalents when it comes to performance per dollar. The Radeon HD7870 would be the AMD equivalent to the GTX 660. Since you will be overclocking, you will want an aftermarket heatsink as the Intel provided one doesn't fare well once the processor is overclocked. For motherboard, you're looking for a Z77 board. Not sure what's available at what price over there but some general recommendations are Asrock Z77 Pro3, MSI Z77A G45, and MSI Z77A-GD55. With extra money, I'd save it or get a SSD which will be much more noticeable than going from a i5 to i7. | ||
|
Shauni
4077 Posts
On January 08 2013 22:46 FakePseudo wrote: After double checking, I really wanna ask you where you'd find a 80plus gold 450W PSU that's not complete shit only designed to pass the 80Plus tests (Fortron) for less than the equivalent of $59.99 Didn't you understand my post? The SF-450P14XE (Same as the Capstone) is being sold in most stores in germany, uk and nl. Therefore there is no need for Rosewill presence as there is already sufficient Super Flower presence... The price is a little more expensive (normally around 60-70 euro) but that's how taxes work here. | ||
|
chroniX
517 Posts
Can i take any SSD or there are restrictions via the form factor or SATA versions? I would need more than 64gig and would buy at http://www.cyberport.de . | ||
|
Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On January 09 2013 17:01 chroniX wrote: I want a SSD for my 2 year old laptop. It is an Acer 3820T(link) Can i take any SSD or there are restrictions via the form factor or SATA versions? I would need more than 64gig and would buy at http://www.cyberport.de . Okay, first-gen mobile i5 (Arrandale) means a 5-series chipset, which doesn't have SATA 6Gbps (only SATA2 at 3 Gbps). A standard notebook like that has a 2.5" drive, which is the form factor for most consumer SSDs. 1.8", 3.5", and mSATA variants are less common. You can use whatever that fits, but all of the modern drives would be bottlenecked somewhat by the SATA2 speeds in large sequential reads (some also in writes, potentially). It's not a big deal, as it's still blazing fast and the main advantage is the fast random-access times anyway. I'd recommend the Samsung 840 120GB for 87 euros, if you want more than 64GB: http://www.cyberport.de/pc-und-zubehoer/festplatten-ssd-nas/ssd-solid-state-disk/3306-012/samsung-ssd-840-series-120gb-2-5zoll-tlc-sata600---basic.html | ||
|
FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
On January 09 2013 05:33 Shauni wrote: Didn't you understand my post? The SF-450P14XE (Same as the Capstone) is being sold in most stores in germany, uk and nl. Therefore there is no need for Rosewill presence as there is already sufficient Super Flower presence... The price is a little more expensive (normally around 60-70 euro) but that's how taxes work here. You're a bit late to the party. I understood your post in the first place, but, as I said, I doubted it because I didn't find what you were talking about on the few french sites I use (my bad). Fortunately, 3wom told us (me) what to look for so I stood corrected, but something else caught my atention so I didn't make an apology post at the time. So there it is: sorry for the BS I said (but it would have been easier if you had immediately mentionned the name of the oem at least) Grabbing my shovel right now. Peace. | ||
|
Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
| ||
|
wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147192 Is this one good? Any negatives or are there better choices? | ||
|
Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On January 09 2013 18:46 wussleeQ wrote: I've been looking at ssds recently and I don't know much but I'm eyeing this one SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD128BW 2.5" 128GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147192 Is this one good? Any negatives or are there better choices? You can normally get the 830 128gb for $90-$100 on sale. The 830 vs 840 will be of no consequence to most users, and the huge premium is ridiculous. | ||
|
FakePseudo
Belgium716 Posts
On January 09 2013 17:47 Myrmidon wrote: FSP (Fortron) Aurum isn't exactly horribly bad btw, just not any better than the good budget-tier stuff aside from efficiency. Actually, for those checking Euro markets, Be Quiet! Efficient Power F1 has Aurum internals, for those wondering. Those are also relatively cheap. Same for Straight Power E9—those just have a better fan and other perks. I was very interested in the FSP Aurum 400 (or 450, dont remember) at the time I built my comp, but I came up on tests and reviews which seemed to indicate that although the components and capacitors are on par with the rest of FSP rebranded products, the units suffered from some design flaws that cause the PSU to run (relatively) hot. Moreover, it is clear that the efficiency (read: the 80Plus certification) was the prominent goal of this product, since voltage stability and magnetic pollution are relatively sub par with what the lambda consumer would expect from a "Gold" certified product. As always when you create/look up a label, some companies sell products only designed to pass the tests so that they can advertise them as such, while neglecting other aspects. We have to be careful with what a label covers and what it doesn't. | ||
|
Inex
Bulgaria443 Posts
1.6 ghz dual core, 1gb ram, GMA950. Shockingly I can run SC2!... at pretty much constant 7 fps. I saw that there are external GPUs for laptops and I was planning to get one until I save enough money for a new decent PC. Do you guys think this is a good idea, or should I just continue browsing FB for the next few months with that piece of trash? | ||
|
skyR
Canada13817 Posts
| ||
| ||
![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/36540828/PC_Pod_Final_Cosair_Case.JPG)
