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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
January 06 2013 16:10 GMT
#26721
On January 06 2013 23:29 skyR wrote:
Call Microsoft to activate.

Does that mean I can't sell on/give away my old motherboard then? It's just I read that the mobo needs to be broken so that I had to replace it (and say the new one isn't the same model) that Microsoft will activate the new one with another key.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20316 Posts
January 06 2013 16:19 GMT
#26722
On January 07 2013 01:10 Gumbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:29 skyR wrote:
Call Microsoft to activate.

Does that mean I can't sell on/give away my old motherboard then? It's just I read that the mobo needs to be broken so that I had to replace it (and say the new one isn't the same model) that Microsoft will activate the new one with another key.


I think you can run both, just not sell legally. Nobody really cares about the legality of it either way, though
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 16:26:58
January 06 2013 16:22 GMT
#26723
On January 06 2013 11:09 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 04:09 ROOTheognis wrote:
On January 06 2013 04:07 Irre wrote:
On January 06 2013 03:56 ROOTheognis wrote:
So I'm currently building my first computer. I just finally set it up but am a retard and forgot to buy Windows 7/8. Where can I buy a full version of this? I'd rather be able to go to a store and pick it up today rather than waiting a few days for it to be mailed. Ty


any store really...target, best buy, places like that.

I went to Best Buy but it was just an upgrade. Is there anywhere I can buy the full version? I have no OS installed atm >_<

Doesnt the upgrade version work as a full version anyway?

Or something?

I seem to remember something along these lines.


If it works the same as in Belgium, you just got screwed by one of the shitty staff member from the shop. What "upgrade edition" means is that you CAN upgrade from XP or Vista to 7/8 without losing your data and settings/preference (or at least most of it). But in no way does it mean that you are obliged to still own a valid key for one of these previous Windows editions. So anywho trying to convince you to buy "integral edition" (2XXeuros) is either trying to screw you up, either a complete retard. Either way, the notice on the box is very clear in that regard, with a big bolded mention "Does not need any previous version of windows" or some equivalent shit.

Fyi, upgrade versions of Windows in the sense that it is cheaper and does need a previous version of windows to work are only sold online and in the few months after the release (As it was the case for Windows 8, which was sold ~50euros to 7 users).

IMPORTANT: Do not mess up with "STARTER EDITION": this IS an upgrade for 7 netbook users to switch from limited 7 netbook edition(needed) to normal 7 edition.

TL;DR: What you should be looking if you do not have special needs is Windows 7 Home premium edition (Yeah, I know, this is the basic edition, but, you know, marketing shit and stuff), which is ~100euros.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 06 2013 16:55 GMT
#26724
Yeah thats what i figured. So just get the upgrade.

On January 07 2013 01:10 Gumbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 23:29 skyR wrote:
Call Microsoft to activate.

Does that mean I can't sell on/give away my old motherboard then? It's just I read that the mobo needs to be broken so that I had to replace it (and say the new one isn't the same model) that Microsoft will activate the new one with another key.


According to Microsoft yes, something along those lines. But thats only a marketing thing to get you to spend more money. There's no real legal precedent for it as far as I know.

OMG 1337 page.
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Soulriser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States192 Posts
January 06 2013 17:55 GMT
#26725
On January 06 2013 15:08 Soulriser wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hello all. After trying to keep my lapptop afloat, its become apparent that its time has passed and I need a more reliable PC. Im hoping you all can help me with it.

Budget: About 700-900 USD

Resolution: 1920x1080

Using it for:. Gaming mostly, LoL and SC2. I also listen to a lot of music and use music writing programs, like Guitar Pro and a few others. Also lots of basic Office programs, since im in college.

Upgrade Cycle: about 2 years.

When do you plan on building this?: Within the next month, just waiting on taxes.

Overclocking?: nope!

Need an OS?: nope, got windows 7 already

Need a 2nd GPU for SLI or Crossfire?: Preferably not. :/ maybe in the future if I ever get the urge to stream or something.

Where are you buying parts from?: Bestbuy, newegg, amazon. Just the basic places.


Thank you in advance for any help I hope someone has the time to look at this


i just remembered i need a wireless card with this build as well, since im on wireless internet(unfortunately). thanks again in advance!
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 20:44:45
January 06 2013 20:42 GMT
#26726
Thanks Rannasha for getting me started!

I made some adjustments, what do you guys think of this?
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 - $50 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
ASRock B75 PRO3 - $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157314
Intel Core i3-322 - $130 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116775
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 - $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 - $45 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB - $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130838
Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB - $73 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

Total: $533 (I have shoprunner so shipping isn't an issue)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 06 2013 21:19 GMT
#26727
The 3220 is $120. Even if you don't order before tomorrow (but I assume you are since you included the promo for the HAF 912), it's still $120 from Amazon and $110 from NCIX.

I'd get a basic B75 for $55 and use the left over for a ~120gb SSD instead.

2133MHz kit is $5 less: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468

Corsair 300R for $50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011

The MSI GTX 650 Ti PE OC is better than the EVGA at $140: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127704
TheUnSeenOne
Profile Joined November 2012
United States24 Posts
January 06 2013 21:20 GMT
#26728
Okay want a pre built computer for HOTS and to continue playing it for a number of years hows this look?

Case 1 x AZZA Armour Gaming Case-Blue
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i5-3570 Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache)
Motherboard 1 x Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
Memory 1 x 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module-Corsair Vengeance
Video Card 1 x AMD Radeon HD 7850 - 2GB-Single Card
Case Lighting None
Power Supply 1 x 650 Watt -- NZXT HALE82N-SI / 80+ Bronze
Processor Cooling 1 x Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink
Video Card Brand 1 x Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA
Primary Hard Drive 1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s-Single Drive
Data Hard Drive None
2nd Optical Drive None
Optical Drive 1 x 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive-Black
Sound Card 1 x 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Speaker System None
Network Card 1 x Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Monitor None
Operating System 1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel)-64-Bit
Warranty 1 x 3 Year Standard Warranty Service
Rush Service 1 x Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee)-No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days
Video Camera None
Meter Display None
Flash Media Reader / Writer None
2nd Monitor None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion None
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive None
Intel Smart Response Technology None
Case Engraving Service None
Subtotal $893.00
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
January 06 2013 21:27 GMT
#26729
On January 07 2013 06:20 TheUnSeenOne wrote:
Okay want a pre built computer for HOTS and to continue playing it for a number of years hows this look?

Case 1 x AZZA Armour Gaming Case-Blue
Processor 1 x Intel® Core™ i5-3570 Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache)
Motherboard 1 x Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H
Memory 1 x 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module-Corsair Vengeance
Video Card 1 x AMD Radeon HD 7850 - 2GB-Single Card
Case Lighting None
Power Supply 1 x 650 Watt -- NZXT HALE82N-SI / 80+ Bronze
Processor Cooling 1 x Certified CPU Fan and Heatsink
Video Card Brand 1 x Major Brand Powered by AMD or NVIDIA
Primary Hard Drive 1 x 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s-Single Drive
Data Hard Drive None
2nd Optical Drive None
Optical Drive 1 x 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive-Black
Sound Card 1 x 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard
Speaker System None
Network Card 1 x Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100)
Monitor None
Operating System 1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel)-64-Bit
Warranty 1 x 3 Year Standard Warranty Service
Rush Service 1 x Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee)-No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days
Video Camera None
Meter Display None
Flash Media Reader / Writer None
2nd Monitor None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction None
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion None
iBUYPOWER PowerDrive None
Intel Smart Response Technology None
Case Engraving Service None
Subtotal $893.00

Parts wise, they're in very well in line with each other, especially for a prebuilt. As for pricing, no idea for the states.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
January 06 2013 21:28 GMT
#26730
On January 07 2013 06:19 skyR wrote:
The 3220 is $120. Even if you don't order before tomorrow (but I assume you are since you included the promo for the HAF 912), it's still $120 from Amazon and $110 from NCIX.

I'd get a basic B75 for $55 and use the left over for a ~120gb SSD instead.

2133MHz kit is $5 less:

Corsair 300R for $50:

The MSI GTX 650 Ti PE OC is better than the EVGA at $140:


Oh, don't know how I overlooked the rebate on the 3220.
Thanks a lot! I'll replace everything you recommended.

Any recs for a 120gb SSD?
These two look good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231613
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 21:35:20
January 06 2013 21:33 GMT
#26731
Samsung 840 is good.

The 3220 has a promo, not a rebate. I hope you know how rebates work. They're not included in your check-out total. You have to fill out a form, mail it with the UPC code (or whatever they ask for), and you get a cheque / prepaid credit card back in a few months.
Sway.746
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
January 06 2013 22:12 GMT
#26732
Thanks! Yeah, I've done rebates before, I just used the wrong terminology there. Down to $525 with what looks to be a great machine. Thanks a lot for the help skyR!
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
January 06 2013 23:23 GMT
#26733
On January 07 2013 01:55 Medrea wrote:
Yeah thats what i figured. So just get the upgrade.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 01:10 Gumbi wrote:
On January 06 2013 23:29 skyR wrote:
Call Microsoft to activate.

Does that mean I can't sell on/give away my old motherboard then? It's just I read that the mobo needs to be broken so that I had to replace it (and say the new one isn't the same model) that Microsoft will activate the new one with another key.


According to Microsoft yes, something along those lines. But thats only a marketing thing to get you to spend more money. There's no real legal precedent for it as far as I know.

OMG 1337 page.

Thanks, yeah, that's what I figured. Can a new OS be installed on my old mobo? (If I want to sell it, the new owner might want to install an OS using it) Or can I run Windows on both of them just fine (assuming I get the second key from Microsoft.

Thanks, I appreciate it.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 07 2013 01:09 GMT
#26734
The motherboard is not tied to anything, you can infinitely install operating systems on it.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
January 07 2013 01:18 GMT
#26735
Ah, OK thanks for your help. I'm getting a 3570k + asrock pro3 z77 + 8 GB corsair vengeance 1600mhz RAM in the post tomorrow; I'm excited A nice upgrade from 4GB @ 1333 and a Phenom II 925. These should pair well with my 7950 :D Hopefully it goes without a hitch. Thanks again.
Soulriser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States192 Posts
January 07 2013 06:14 GMT
#26736
On January 07 2013 02:55 Soulriser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2013 15:08 Soulriser wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hello all. After trying to keep my lapptop afloat, its become apparent that its time has passed and I need a more reliable PC. Im hoping you all can help me with it.

Budget: About 600-850 USD

Resolution: 1920x1080

Using it for:. Gaming mostly, LoL and SC2. I also listen to a lot of music and use music writing programs, like Guitar Pro and a few others. Also lots of basic Office programs, since im in college.

Upgrade Cycle: about 2 years.

When do you plan on building this?: Within the next month, just waiting on taxes.

Overclocking?: nope!

Need an OS?: nope, got windows 7 already

Need a 2nd GPU for SLI or Crossfire?: Preferably not. :/ maybe in the future if I ever get the urge to stream or something.

Where are you buying parts from?: Bestbuy, newegg, amazon. Just the basic places.


Thank you in advance for any help I hope someone has the time to look at this


i just remembered i need a wireless card with this build as well, since im on wireless internet(unfortunately). thanks again in advance!



help please? :c
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 07:01:24
January 07 2013 06:55 GMT
#26737
On January 07 2013 15:14 Soulriser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 02:55 Soulriser wrote:
On January 06 2013 15:08 Soulriser wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hello all. After trying to keep my lapptop afloat, its become apparent that its time has passed and I need a more reliable PC. Im hoping you all can help me with it.

Budget: About 600-850 USD

Resolution: 1920x1080

Using it for:. Gaming mostly, LoL and SC2. I also listen to a lot of music and use music writing programs, like Guitar Pro and a few others. Also lots of basic Office programs, since im in college.

Upgrade Cycle: about 2 years.

When do you plan on building this?: Within the next month, just waiting on taxes.

Overclocking?: nope!

Need an OS?: nope, got windows 7 already

Need a 2nd GPU for SLI or Crossfire?: Preferably not. :/ maybe in the future if I ever get the urge to stream or something.

Where are you buying parts from?: Bestbuy, newegg, amazon. Just the basic places.


Thank you in advance for any help I hope someone has the time to look at this


i just remembered i need a wireless card with this build as well, since im on wireless internet(unfortunately). thanks again in advance!



help please? :c


Just pick a USB wireless adapter off of Newegg with a decent rating that you like. USB > Pci

To the guy with the 893$ prebuilt... good build, prices aren't AWFUL (good for a prebuilt I guess). Building one would save you quite a bit of money though, at that price you could probably get a 3570k and a 7870? Something like that.

Edit: Yeah. I built a 3570K, 7870, better case, and PSU for 940$. Would be definitely much better. Alternatively you could get the same build and save 1-200$. And I could easily trim off 40$ I think, I did absolutely zero price checking and didn't account for the coupons simply on Newegg.
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craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
January 07 2013 10:27 GMT
#26738
On January 06 2013 17:01 Serpico wrote:
PHEW, I FINALLY just finished putting everything together. Wall of text incoming. + Show Spoiler +
I was REALLY worried about installing my new heatsink correctly as I freaked out about it shorting my mobo when I finally came to that nervracking moment of truth, and also had several minor mishaps that make you cringe very hard. Since this is the first heatskink with a backplate I ever installed I simply followed the instruction like a robot and hoped for the best (shouldn't that mean I'm completely safe? ). I then broke off this weird little latch on the mobo that holds the GPU in. It was COMPLETELY different than my old mobo's latch that you just pulled up and away from the gpu to unlatch it, this one slid back and forth...threw me off really badly and I snapped it off on accident. No big deal as the socket is what really matters, so I put my GPU in and screwed it into the case without any other incident.

Then I dropped my screwdriver onto my mobo (from a very low height at least) and almost had a panic attack thinking I just killed it. Then when I went to push down the latch on my CPU I realized it was EVER SO SLIGHTLY out of place and wondered why I had to apply an uncomfortable amount of pressure on it (I could hear metal creaking a bit, which was almost blood curdling). I didn't even see my cpu go down or level out when I moved it, I simply gave it the slightest push with my finger while it was comfortably in the socket already and then the latch went down much more easily. The first thoughts in my head though were: "YOU BENT THE PINS ON YOUR MOBO YOU MORON THATS WHY IT DIDNT GO DOWN RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!!"

I also talked about cable management in my last post....well when you have 5 SATA cables and fan cables with a mediocre imo cable management case you can only do so much. I stashed as many cables in the HDD bay and in the back of the case as I could, but cable length and the stiffness of them once I started running out of room was very limiting in regards to what positions I could safely contort them into. All in all, I had a lot of little mistakes that had me worried beyond belief, it took about 3 1/2 hours to finish not just installing but double checking all of my cables to make sure they were in correctly ( the tiny ones at the bottom for pwr switches, reset switches and such always confuse me a bit in every build).

But finally, the part you all care about....when I finally hooked it up (without putting the side panel back on for superstition's sake) and hit that power button with sweaty, sore and most of all anxious fingers, my PC..... + Show Spoiler +
started up and went right to a bluescreen and then said " a recent hardware/software change may have caused an error etc" or some bs that I can't remember correctly. Basically, it did what it should had done with a new mobo and guts installed with the same old OS still there. I think it was a success, no popping sound, no rattling fan, my CPU fan and GPU fans turned on perfectly and were very quiet. I'm quite happy, but the stress testing has yet to begin, and before that I might have to drop 100 bucks on an OEM copy of windows ;___;.

PS: I looked in the UEFI (snazzy looking) and my cpu's idle temp is 33-34c. I think that's pretty normal with a 67F ambient and only one case fan running, so extra cooling is at a minimum. I expect that temp to go down perhaps 1c or 2.


Man who woulda thought building comps would be so stressful

I recently put together a PC with the following specs for about 900$ Canadian:
-CPU: Intel Core i5-2500k
-GPU: nVidia GTX 660 Ti 2GB OC
-Mobo: Gigabyte Z77-UD3H
-Memory: 8GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance
-PSU: 600W Corsair GS

It should serve me well for the next 4-5 years.
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Podzz
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14 Posts
January 07 2013 13:18 GMT
#26739
Hi,

I am a bit of a layman when it comes to the ins and outs of hardware choices. If you could check over my build and offer any suggestions / changes that would be fantastic.

1. Build will be used for gaming and 3d / 2d art. I am a games artist by trade.
2. Budget is about 950£ buying in the UK most likely from overclockers.co.uk
3. Upgreade Cycle is 3+ years.
4. i would like to learn about over-clocking using this build. At first it is not the priority.
5. I have an operating system and do not plan on using SLI or Crossfire.

6. So far I'm fairly happy with what I have. my main questions are:
- Am I getting the most for my money?
- Are there any areas I should spend more / less money?
-Is this build suitable to learn about over clocking on?

[image loading]

This is a link to the build. If an image is not acceptable please give me a shout and i will throw up text links (I couldn't find anything saying this was not allowed).

Thanks for all your help in advance. I look forward to seeing what you think.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
January 07 2013 22:55 GMT
#26740
I think I've lost my Windows 7 license key Where would I find it on my OEM license? I am just afte installing anew mobo. Apparently some programmes will get the key for you, but as I've already installed the new mobo and parts, undoing that would be a real pain.

I guess I'll have to call Microsoft, unless I can find my product key. Where would it be located? I have the disk and also a manual, but it doesn't seem to be on either of them.

Windows is also installed on both my SSD and HDD, both of which are connected to my PC as of now. Assuming I find my key, what would be the protocol for installing Windows? Can I insall without the key and get it then for aactivation? If i do that, does the installation overwrite the Windows installion currently on my SSD/HDD? SOrry for the hurried post, basically I'm looking for the mechanics of installing my OS onto using a new mobo. I can't call Microoft for a new key until tomorrow 'cos the phones for these particular issues .aren't 24/7
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