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MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 07 2013 23:47 GMT
#26741
@Podzz what software do you use to create your art? (Ranked in order of importance to you.)
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 01:15:37
January 08 2013 01:08 GMT
#26742
Podzz, everything looks pretty solid, i cant comment on motherboard, you might want to get RAM that can run 1600mhz @ 1.5v (though its not really all too important) and id look into getting a higher end CPU cooler (unless that one has better performance than i know of) if you want to overclock 3570k, you will absolutely absolutely by limited by heat OC-ing at low end and you can increase overclock margins quite a bit with a better cooler.

Single threaded CPU performance is a very valuable thing to be boosting for lots of things (particularly sc2)

+ Show Spoiler +
UPDATE: I repeated the experiment with a late game ZvZ replay with maxed armies:

3300 MHz:
Avg: 41.925 - Min: 27 - Max: 58

3700 MHz:
Avg: 46.625 - Min: 32 - Max: 63

4400 MHz:
Avg: 56.025 - Min: 39 - Max: 77


On a 2500k (very close to 3570k in performance) - note MINIMUM FPS


"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 01:35:16
January 08 2013 01:21 GMT
#26743
I'm posting from my new PC for the first time!! Haven't played any games yet, but everything is fully recognized and I've installed my gpu drivers after having a small scare (mobo didnt recognize my GPU, only recognized something was plugged into the socket, but knew specifically what other parts I had installed so I thought something was off.) Turns out the mobo needed me to install the display drivers, makes sense and all but was kinda odd that it knew my exact memory and cpu version but not GPU.

I'm off to DL some testing software and a game or two to test. Cheers everyone and good luck with your builds.

update: idle temps on all 4 cores hover around 27-25-24-25. Pretty even temps and I'm happy about that. Low temps as well with the hyper 212 evo. Feels nice.

update 2: gpu is idling at 31-33c :O
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
January 08 2013 01:37 GMT
#26744
On January 08 2013 10:21 Serpico wrote:
I'm posting from my new PC for the first time!! Haven't played any games yet, but everything is fully recognized and I've installed my gpu drivers after having a small scare (mobo didnt recognize my GPU, only recognized something was plugged into the socket, but knew specifically what other parts I had installed so I thought something was off.) Turns out the mobo needed me to install the display drivers, makes sense and all but was kinda odd that it knew my exact memory and cpu version but not GPU.

I'm off to DL some testing software and a game or two to test. Cheers everyone and good luck with your builds.

update: idle temps on all 4 cores hover around 27-25-24-25. Pretty even temps and I'm happy about that. Low temps as well with the hyper 212 evo. Feels nice.

update 2: gpu is idling at 31-33c :O

I'm jealous, I idle at 40-45C :/ Australian summers ftw.
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Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
January 08 2013 01:44 GMT
#26745
Ok I have bought some parts but just wanted to finalize on a few things and double check on the PSU.

Case:
Coolermaster HAF XM- Skyr reccomended this thanks its awesome!

MB
Asrock Z77 Extreme4 LGA1155 - Skyr reccomended thanks!

CPU

i7 3770k- got it at microcenter 230 crazy sale!

Memory
GSkill 2133- 40 bucks great deal thanks skyr again!

Heatsink Corsair H60 -45 is this OK? I have the antec 620 right now and its good hopefully its comparable! im not doing a crazy amount of overclock

GPU

EVGA GTX 670 2GB FTW 390.00 not bad

PSU

Rosewell Capstone 80 Gold 450W- without SLI this is enough Power to run GPU and CPU right??? just want to make sure on this one!

HDD
Samsung 840 SSD 120GB- 75.00!!!! insane deal love microcenter so much

Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD 7200RPM 64 MB Cache- 80.. not the best price but i couldnt find a 64 MB Cache- do I need or should i go with a cheaper 32MB Cache model?

Win 7 64 bit

Total is about 1300 even... not bad with all the bells and whistles i can probably get it down to 1275 with a cheaper 2nd HDD.





Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
January 08 2013 01:47 GMT
#26746
On January 08 2013 10:37 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 10:21 Serpico wrote:
I'm posting from my new PC for the first time!! Haven't played any games yet, but everything is fully recognized and I've installed my gpu drivers after having a small scare (mobo didnt recognize my GPU, only recognized something was plugged into the socket, but knew specifically what other parts I had installed so I thought something was off.) Turns out the mobo needed me to install the display drivers, makes sense and all but was kinda odd that it knew my exact memory and cpu version but not GPU.

I'm off to DL some testing software and a game or two to test. Cheers everyone and good luck with your builds.

update: idle temps on all 4 cores hover around 27-25-24-25. Pretty even temps and I'm happy about that. Low temps as well with the hyper 212 evo. Feels nice.

update 2: gpu is idling at 31-33c :O

I'm jealous, I idle at 40-45C :/ Australian summers ftw.

hehe, well if it makes you feel any better this is the first build I've ever had go perfectly to this point (knock on wood). Something else I've noticed is the font is much clearer with this gpu and drivers than my old 260 core 216. Much cooler system overall and just imo a much more well thought out build. Let's cross our fingers and hope this thing isn't some big illusion that is only stable enough to use the internet on :O.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 01:55:50
January 08 2013 01:54 GMT
#26747
On January 08 2013 10:37 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 10:21 Serpico wrote:
I'm posting from my new PC for the first time!! Haven't played any games yet, but everything is fully recognized and I've installed my gpu drivers after having a small scare (mobo didnt recognize my GPU, only recognized something was plugged into the socket, but knew specifically what other parts I had installed so I thought something was off.) Turns out the mobo needed me to install the display drivers, makes sense and all but was kinda odd that it knew my exact memory and cpu version but not GPU.

I'm off to DL some testing software and a game or two to test. Cheers everyone and good luck with your builds.

update: idle temps on all 4 cores hover around 27-25-24-25. Pretty even temps and I'm happy about that. Low temps as well with the hyper 212 evo. Feels nice.

update 2: gpu is idling at 31-33c :O

I'm jealous, I idle at 40-45C :/ Australian summers ftw.


I hear your continent is on fire again. Best wishes and I hope you avoid a fiery death!
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
January 08 2013 01:56 GMT
#26748
On January 08 2013 10:44 Irre wrote:Heatsink Corsair H60 -45 is this OK? I have the antec 620 right now and its good hopefully its comparable! im not doing a crazy amount of overclock

Rosewell Capstone 80 Gold 450W- without SLI this is enough Power to run GPU and CPU right??? just want to make sure on this one!

Seagate Barracuda 1 TB HDD 7200RPM 64 MB Cache- 80.. not the best price but i couldnt find a 64 MB Cache- do I need or should i go with a cheaper 32MB Cache model?

Most of the time we don't recommend closed loop water coolers at all, as they're annoying and generally inferior to a similarly priced air coolers. The only time they're better is if you have a tiny case that can't fit an air cooler, which isn't the case.

The powersupply is more than enough, It's pretty much the best PSU for single gpu intel rigs.

Cache doesn't matter. Any 1tb platter hdd is fine.
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Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
January 08 2013 01:58 GMT
#26749
On January 08 2013 10:54 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 10:37 Rollin wrote:
On January 08 2013 10:21 Serpico wrote:
I'm posting from my new PC for the first time!! Haven't played any games yet, but everything is fully recognized and I've installed my gpu drivers after having a small scare (mobo didnt recognize my GPU, only recognized something was plugged into the socket, but knew specifically what other parts I had installed so I thought something was off.) Turns out the mobo needed me to install the display drivers, makes sense and all but was kinda odd that it knew my exact memory and cpu version but not GPU.

I'm off to DL some testing software and a game or two to test. Cheers everyone and good luck with your builds.

update: idle temps on all 4 cores hover around 27-25-24-25. Pretty even temps and I'm happy about that. Low temps as well with the hyper 212 evo. Feels nice.

update 2: gpu is idling at 31-33c :O

I'm jealous, I idle at 40-45C :/ Australian summers ftw.


I hear your continent is on fire again. Best wishes and I hope you avoid a fiery death!

It is? The fires don't come near me anyways, so don't fret. Although I know of some people that were pretty close to a deliberately lit bushfire a couple of years ago, that was a really bad one.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 03:37:41
January 08 2013 03:05 GMT
#26750
so I spoke far too soon . I just got a blue screen and now intermittent freezing all of a sudden... Display driver stopped responding message every time after my pc unfreezes. Sigh...I thought this build wouldnt need troubleshooting... I'm guessing GPU is screwed...really exasperated by it all now. I didn't get a chance to screencap the bluescreen message when I restarted because of the freezing.


Edit: Might have been a false alarm, forgot to install some drivers and just got done playing some metro 2033 and it was fine. Has been stable for 15 minutes now, where as before it would literally freeze so much I almost couldnt send my last message (took 10 minutes to finish typing it my pc froze so much). Cross your fingers ladies and gents.
Skirmjan
Profile Joined October 2012
Italy190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 16:52:30
January 08 2013 03:23 GMT
#26751
I need a new pc as mine own is dead or dying T_T, funny thing is, in 10 years of computers they always died in december\january lol

answers to the basic questions:
+ Show Spoiler +


What is your budget?

in the 600-900€ range, no new monitor nor HDD nor case needed

What is your resolution?

i'm currently playing mostly at the prehistoric 1024x768, monitor supports 1280x1024 obv with proper hardware behind it. i also own a geforce 520 bought as a temporary fix when the old card broke (an 8600gt,lol)

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming and i'd like to have spare power for streaming and retain general versatility...

What is your upgrade cycle?

2-3 years, ideally 3+years.

When do you plan on building it?

asap.

Do you plan on overclocking?

i've never overclocked before, given my pretty long upgrade cycle i was mostly worried to negatively affect the hardware's life, however i could see myself OCing keeping an eye on that.

Do you need an Operating System?

no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

nope.

Where are you buying your parts from?

i'm european, italian specifically, and will mostly be buying from online stores, amazon.it especially, and search the urban areas around me for good retailer deals.



i already own + Show Spoiler +
a Acer AL1715 monitor,a Samsung 830 SSD + other HDDs, a Xonar DG audio card (strange,ah?) and a venerable COLORSit EN60950 PSU(450W, 18A on the 12V) which kept up my old computer pretty much flawlessly anyways... also own a geforce 520,as i've already wrote


i'd like to avoid Asus motherboards due to bad personal experiences and i have a slight preference towards Nvidia gpus for i always had them working flawlessly


here's my first idea:

CPU Intel® Core™ i5-3570K 204€

RAM Corsair 2 x DIMM 4 Gb 240-pin DDR3 SDRAM 1600 mhz Vengeance (couldn't find CAS latency) 40€

GPU here i'm kinda out of ideas, i was looking for a 560ti more than a year ago, but it looks like it isn't nearly anymore the bargain in price\performance it used to be,as it is utterly destroyed by the new 600 series, the 670 is apparently its spiritual successor, however i feel like that is too much money and too much overkill,and i have mixed feelings towards 660ti.... and on the ATI\AMD, i'm just clueless

PSU OCZ OCZ500MXSP ModXStream Pro 56€ or Corsair CMPSU-500CXV2EU 65€ or even the one i already own


many thanks in advance for the help
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 03:50:41
January 08 2013 03:43 GMT
#26752
So I have an interesting problem now, even after installing flash I get black boxes wherever there should be an image. When trying to load twitch or youtube the video is just a black box. Don't know if I've heard of that before.

Edit: and the freezing started again, the restart probably just gave me some temporary relief. Will stop spamming this thread now . Time to figure this crap out.
azngamer828
Profile Joined July 2008
United States137 Posts
January 08 2013 03:47 GMT
#26753
i have a pretty decent computer IMO
but it wouldnt hurt for it to have an upgrade hehe XD
(motherboards, cpu, ram, graphics card, psu, etc.)

i only play starcraft 2 with pretty much low settings (texture is medium) would like to try going for medium or high
my fps wont stay constant throughout the game and i would like to try to hit constant 60 fps
i watch alot of videos and i would also really like it if i could watch it usually in 720p (i wouldnt mind the 1080p though )

specs im pretty sure that i have to give
memory ram is the integral = 2gb
intel core 2 duo 2.93 ghz
graphics card = old school = nvidia geforce 9500 gt
*if you need more details please ask, though i am a noob when it comes to computers, so please go easy :D haha

i dont really know what would be a sufficient price, but i guess as low as possible haha
this student cannot really afford elite equipment :p haha
Pew Pew
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
January 08 2013 04:24 GMT
#26754
Constant high fps is unattainable except with a very high end cpu with a hefty overclock. Your gpu is below the level of current integrated graphics. It's hard to suggest parts without a budget, but don't expect 60fps lategame on any hardware.
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Podzz
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14 Posts
January 08 2013 08:15 GMT
#26755
@MisterFred 3D Studio Max, Photoshop and Unread Development Kit.

I have altered my build slightly to get more solid SSD and Mother board also a more reliable power supply and more powerful graphics card at the expense of the I7 3570k.

[image loading]
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
January 08 2013 09:09 GMT
#26756
So I asked about a Pc build a couple fo weeks ago for streaming and such. I'm ordering everyone in about 2 weeks or so. So I need help somewhat soon in finishing off my build.

My budget is 1300$ CAD and I'm buying from NCIX

http://i.imgur.com/xzjJy.png

I choose the I7 because it fit with the build and I'd rather have too much power than too little. Same goes for the power supply, though I don't know if those particular parts are best for that price range either. Since I don't have experience with Thermaltake stuff.

I've also chosen to pay the 50$ to have ncix put it together, because in all honesty it would save me the pain and the risk of screwing things up, plus it would be all set up for me so I wouldn't have to spend the hours it would take to put the thing together.
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
January 08 2013 10:27 GMT
#26757
On January 08 2013 17:15 Podzz wrote:
@MisterFred 3D Studio Max, Photoshop and Unread Development Kit.

I have altered my build slightly to get more solid SSD and Mother board also a more reliable power supply and more powerful graphics card at the expense of the I7 3570k.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


PSU is overkill. The no brainer would be a rosewill capstone 450-500W but I know they're though to find in Europe.

Ram is kinda overkill. The 16Gb choice is arguable since you will be using PS and other stuff, but anyway, £35 for 8Gb is absolutely not worth it. Remember ram is the thing that matters the least in your build. You won't see any difference between basic, life-warranted ram and overpriced good-looking aggressively warpainted badass long-named ram. Moreover, it's the easiest component to replace (allthough you don't want to) or add, so my advice would be buying 8Gb and then another 8Gb from local retailer if you feel the need. (Anyway you will most likely buy 2x4Gb sets so it does not matter if you buy different rams.)

Seeing the other prices on your list, and knowing that the prices are kinda crazy in UK, a £19 Heatsink worries me a bit
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Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
January 08 2013 12:38 GMT
#26758
On January 08 2013 19:27 FakePseudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 17:15 Podzz wrote:
@MisterFred 3D Studio Max, Photoshop and Unread Development Kit.

I have altered my build slightly to get more solid SSD and Mother board also a more reliable power supply and more powerful graphics card at the expense of the I7 3570k.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


PSU is overkill. The no brainer would be a rosewill capstone 450-500W but I know they're though to find in Europe.


Lol that's cause you can easily find the original in Europe... why would we need the stupid rosewill branding shit...
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 13:16:30
January 08 2013 12:57 GMT
#26759
On January 08 2013 18:09 masterbreti wrote:
So I asked about a Pc build a couple fo weeks ago for streaming and such. I'm ordering everyone in about 2 weeks or so. So I need help somewhat soon in finishing off my build.

My budget is 1300$ CAD and I'm buying from NCIX

http://i.imgur.com/xzjJy.png

I choose the I7 because it fit with the build and I'd rather have too much power than too little. Same goes for the power supply, though I don't know if those particular parts are best for that price range either. Since I don't have experience with Thermaltake stuff.

I've also chosen to pay the 50$ to have ncix put it together, because in all honesty it would save me the pain and the risk of screwing things up, plus it would be all set up for me so I wouldn't have to spend the hours it would take to put the thing together.



It is kinda crazy that you are spending $1300 and cant afford a SSD. (maybe you dont want one, I dont know). Your parts are really not at bargain prices.
For example: your ram is 25% more expensive than it should be, 660Ti at 300? :o and....

I couldn't find your post with the questions from the OP answered but my understanding is that you want the PC for general gaming + streaming. Its kinda important to know which games you play and plan on playing in addition to your resolution before making a recommendation on the GPU. It is also important to know at what resolution and fps you plan to stream. For example, an OCed i5 will be able to stream 720@30 irc and looking that you are from Canada, Im guessing you dont have enough arms and legs to afford the internet that is required for 1080@60.

I would be more than happy to put together a build for you if you give us your resolution/games/stream settings if thats what you want.


edit: also, you should wait till Wend night for the weekly sales to refresh.

On January 08 2013 12:43 Serpico wrote:
So I have an interesting problem now, even after installing flash I get black boxes wherever there should be an image. When trying to load twitch or youtube the video is just a black box. Don't know if I've heard of that before.

Edit: and the freezing started again, the restart probably just gave me some temporary relief. Will stop spamming this thread now . Time to figure this crap out.


The black boxes are probably you forgetting to install something. As for the freezing, did you run memtest86+ for ~24 hours after setting up the computer? id bet ~$10 that its a RAM issue.
FakePseudo
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium716 Posts
January 08 2013 13:46 GMT
#26760
On January 08 2013 21:38 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 19:27 FakePseudo wrote:
On January 08 2013 17:15 Podzz wrote:
@MisterFred 3D Studio Max, Photoshop and Unread Development Kit.

I have altered my build slightly to get more solid SSD and Mother board also a more reliable power supply and more powerful graphics card at the expense of the I7 3570k.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


PSU is overkill. The no brainer would be a rosewill capstone 450-500W but I know they're though to find in Europe.


Lol that's cause you can easily find the original in Europe... why would we need the stupid rosewill branding shit...


After double checking, I really wanna ask you where you'd find a 80plus gold 450W PSU that's not complete shit only designed to pass the 80Plus tests (Fortron) for less than the equivalent of $59.99
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