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SleepTech

United States222 Posts

November 21 2012 23:19 GMT

#25601

This Hard Drive is currently $69 on Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834&SortField=2&SummaryType=0&PageSize=100&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo

2TB 7200 RPM 64MB cache

It's only got a 3 egg rating though. Think it's worth it?

Belial88

United States5217 Posts

November 22 2012 01:01 GMT

#25602

You can't trust newegg reviews. Literally over half of them are idiots with user errors. Look up tech reviews on it. HDD also have a nasty habit of DOA when mailed sometimes, and people dont fix their reviews afterwards.

Statyk

Canada41 Posts

November 22 2012 01:47 GMT

#25603

Hi Guys,

I'm in the process of building a new computer and am hoping someone can shed some light on a suitable PSU for my needs. I will primarily be using this computer for AutoCad and gaming, with the occasional photoshop session mixed in, and maybe some streaming if I ever learn to become half decent at Starcraft. I was lucky to win an Intel i7 2600K from an EG contest a couple months ago, so that spurred my decision to upgrade -- I'm hoping to keep this new computer for ~5 years.

Here's the list of what I've bought / intend to buy through Newegg:
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CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz (plan to overclock to about 4.2-4.5GHz for the hell of it)
CPU Fan: ThermalTake Frio Advanced 130mm
Case: ThermalTake Level 10GT
Mobo: Asus Maximus V Formula Ext ATX(not purchased yet)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
Video Card: MSI Nvidia GTX 660Ti 2GB(not purchased yet)
SSD: Kingston HyperX 120GB(not purchased yet)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

As for the power supply, I feel somewhat lost. I've been eyeing up the Corsair HX750W; it seems like more than I need, but the 650W version had problems with a squeaky fan that I wish to avoid. I'd like to spend less than $200.00 CAN, including shipping. As I haven't yet purchased the mobo, video card, or ssd, I'm all ears if anyone has suggestions on better / more cost effective options.

Thanks for your time!

jacosajh

2919 Posts

November 22 2012 01:55 GMT

#25604

You don't need a motherboard that expensive. You can get away using a ASRock P67 Pro3 or ASUS P8P67 or some other cheaper Z77.

Also, you don't need a PSU that powerful either. You can get something relatively cheap like a Corsair CX500 V2.

A Hyper 212+ for much less will suffice for the cooler.

Statyk

Canada41 Posts

November 22 2012 02:11 GMT

#25605

On November 22 2012 10:55 jacosajh wrote:
You don't need a motherboard that expensive. You can get away using a ASRock P67 Pro3 or ASUS P8P67 or some other cheaper Z77.

Also, you don't need a PSU that powerful either. You can get something relatively cheap like a Corsair CX500 V2.

A Hyper 212+ for much less will suffice for the cooler.

Thanks^^ much appreciated.

Myrmidon

United States9452 Posts

November 22 2012 03:39 GMT

#25606

If you're wishing to avoid spurious noise, I'd not try the Corsair CX V2 (or original, and I think V3 too?) series, because that has a relatively high incidence of coil whine. Try the Capstone 450-M, which is much better overall. It's a bit more expensive at $65, but it's a good long-term investment, has the kind of quality generally not seen under $100, around the same league as HX series:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182261

The Kingston SSD (just another me-too SandForce drive) is out of stock, btw. Get some kind of Crucial M4, Samsung 830, or Intel 330. Or 335 240GB for $155, if you would ever have need for that kind of space.

ORooK

18 Posts

November 22 2012 03:43 GMT

#25607

hey guys anyone know if I'm already using a intel 330 ssd with the OS installed, can i just buy another intel 330(same size) and set up the raid and everything should work?

Thanks in advance.

nolook

82 Posts

November 22 2012 04:07 GMT

#25608

Belial, what gpu do we need for phenom ii x4 955 to run current games on ultra smooth? Or do we need to buy a new cpu now?

colblitz

United States41 Posts

November 22 2012 05:34 GMT

#25609

Going to start being on the lookout for Black Friday deals for an SSD - could someone remind me what the reliable higher-end models are? I know Crucial M4 and OCZ Vertex 4, as opposed to the V4 and Agility, which are the more budget models.

(Or if anyone has seen any good deals on a 240+ GB SSD and wouldn't mind sharing... :D )

Thanks guys

Zainii

3 Posts

November 22 2012 05:38 GMT

#25610

What is your budget?

~$1500 +/- $200. I do not mind working with the hardware budget if there is a reasonable performance value difference between two components.

What is your resolution?

Unknown? I am going with the standard resolution used these days or what the standard will be in the next 6 to 7 months

What are you using it for?

Starcraft 2 - This build is to optimize SC2 with SC2:Hots in mind

What is your upgrade cycle?

Unknown. I rarely upgrade if ever but I am open to recommendation

When do you plan on building it?

May/June 2013. Two options. 1). Collect components over time based on good deals 2.) Collect all the components within a week to build the computer in the month of May or June.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Probably not. I would prefer a processor which can handle the load and run above and beyond SC2 without the need to overclock

Do you need an Operating System?

I will but this is not part of the hardware budget as stated above

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Unknown.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online

jacosajh

2919 Posts

November 22 2012 06:21 GMT

#25611

On November 22 2012 14:38 Zainii wrote:
What is your budget?

~$1500 +/- $200. I do not mind working with the hardware budget if there is a reasonable performance value difference between two components.

What is your resolution?

Unknown? I am going with the standard resolution used these days or what the standard will be in the next 6 to 7 months

What are you using it for?

Starcraft 2 - This build is to optimize SC2 with SC2:Hots in mind

What is your upgrade cycle?

Unknown. I rarely upgrade if ever but I am open to recommendation

When do you plan on building it?

May/June 2013. Two options. 1). Collect components over time based on good deals 2.) Collect all the components within a week to build the computer in the month of May or June.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Probably not. I would prefer a processor which can handle the load and run above and beyond SC2 without the need to overclock

Do you need an Operating System?

I will but this is not part of the hardware budget as stated above

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Unknown.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Online

Come back when you're ready to build. Prices will be drastically different in half a year as well as selections. Buying computer parts in bits and pieces is also not really a good idea because you're losing value over time. It might be neglible but it's like, what's the point of spending on something you can't make immediate use of.

skyR

Canada13817 Posts

November 22 2012 06:42 GMT

#25612

On November 22 2012 14:34 colblitz wrote:
Going to start being on the lookout for Black Friday deals for an SSD - could someone remind me what the reliable higher-end models are? I know Crucial M4 and OCZ Vertex 4, as opposed to the V4 and Agility, which are the more budget models.

(Or if anyone has seen any good deals on a 240+ GB SSD and wouldn't mind sharing... :D )

Thanks guys

Samsung 840 Pro
Plextor M5P
Intel 520

ShiroNeko

Australia20 Posts

November 22 2012 07:46 GMT

#25613

Hello Team Liquid!
I plan to make a new computer this Christmas that will cover me for the next 4-5 years. It will be a mini-ITX system as it will fit better in my room than a mid size tower and as a plus, It looks AWESOME!!!
Budget: AUD $1500-1600 (Shipping from PCG included)
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CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K
Motherboard: ASRock Z77E-ITX Mini ITX Motherboard
Case: BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ITX Case Black
SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB SSD
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHAS324 24x DVDRW
PSU: Silverstone Strider 500W ST50F-ES
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660Ti
Cooler: Antec KUHLER H2O 620 CPU Cooler
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
Monitor: ASUS VS248H 24in Widescreen LED Monitor
Keyboard: Leopold FC500R Mechanical Keyboard (Cherry Blue)

I am also getting a powerline with this purchase, this one to be exact:
TP-Link TL-PA211 200Mbps Powerline Ethernet Adapter Kit

I am planning to buy online (http://www.pccasegear.com.au). I am concerned about the Monitor and PSU. I would like a cheaper monitor and I am unsure of the stability of the PSU with my graphics card. I plan to overclock the CPU and hopefully the GPU myself.

Note: I do not plan to change my optical drive. Those in the Xbox Modding Scene will understand

iTzSnypah

United States1738 Posts

November 22 2012 07:54 GMT

#25614

On November 22 2012 16:46 ShiroNeko wrote:
Hello Team Liquid!
I plan to make a new computer this Christmas that will cover me for the next 4-5 years. It will be a mini-ITX system as it will fit better in my room than a mid size tower and as a plus, It looks AWESOME!!!
Budget: AUD $1500-1600 (Shipping from PCG included)
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GTX 660Ti is a bandwidth starved GTX 670, Get the cheaper GTX 660 or HD7870. Quality 500w PSU will power ANY Single GPU system. All closed system watercoolers are junk, get a Cooler Master Hyper 212 +/evo or equivalent instead.

slained

Canada966 Posts

November 22 2012 08:18 GMT

#25615

Looking at a full setup, friends recommended me getting AMD fx 8 cores. Seems to be good:
Asus Sabertooh 990FX motherboard,
AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core 4GHz AM3+ processor
GTX 660

Not sure on which ram brand to get, nor powersupply/cooling. I tend to leave my games on over night so I'm really looking into good cooling/cases

Looking to spend 700~

Please let me know your thoughts

jacosajh

2919 Posts

November 22 2012 08:24 GMT

#25616

AMD is outclassed in every way by Intel currently. Whatever you do, don't get an AMD build.

For the same cost, you will have much much much better performance getting an i5 3570k and some Z77 motherboard.

It doesn't seem like your friend is up-to-date on computer builds so I would take his advice with a grain of salt.

Senshin

Netherlands115 Posts

November 22 2012 09:01 GMT

#25617

I just received my alienware m17x r4 and sc2 runs perfectly with 90fps on 1920x1080 :D

slained

Canada966 Posts

November 22 2012 15:28 GMT

#25618

@jacosajh - I've actually done a lot of reading a lot of benchmarks do put the amd ahead. For laptops and such, yea I'd trust intel over it. But when we have an octo-core processor, which may not be fully utilized by apps right now, but in the future may. the i5 does surpass the amd in performance for single-thread gaming and other single-thread applications
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/page-352596_28_50.html

That being said, people say the i5 and amd are very comparible, but I have found a sale for blackfriday for the i5:
for 149.99 (canadian)

so I'm gonna go with the i5.

I don't know much about motherboards so I'll look into them. Still really needing info on cooling, i'll probably dig something up

Rannasha

Netherlands2398 Posts

November 22 2012 15:48 GMT

#25619

On November 23 2012 00:28 slained wrote:
@jacosajh - I've actually done a lot of reading a lot of benchmarks do put the amd ahead. For laptops and such, yea I'd trust intel over it. But when we have an octo-core processor, which may not be fully utilized by apps right now, but in the future may. the i5 does surpass the amd in performance for single-thread gaming and other single-thread applications
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/page-352596_28_50.html

The AMD FX 8000 CPUs are not proper octocores since each pair of "cores" shares some components, whereas other CPU-series do have fully separate cores. This means that the performance you get out of it with multi-core optimized software depends strongly on how much the software uses those components that are shared. In the case of the AMD FX series, the floating point unit is the most important shared component.

There are some applications where the AMD FX series have an edge, but these are more fringe cases than commonly used tasks. The situation right now is (sadly enough) that for pretty much every user, Intel CPUs are more attractive.

Passion

Netherlands1486 Posts

November 22 2012 17:01 GMT

#25620

Hi!

I'm planning to buy something like this;

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Processor - Intel Core i7-3770, 3.40GHz, 8MB, HD4000, S1155
Motherboard - Asus P8H77-V LE S1155 H77 4xDDR3 ATX
Graphic card - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti, 2048MB
Memory - 1x Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL10
Proc. Cooler - Scythe Mugen 3 Rev.B PCGH
Harddisk - SanDisk Extreme SSD 120GB 2.5” SATA3
PSU - Be Quiet! Straight Power E9 600W
Case - Corsair Carbide 400R ATX

Quite some gaming, quite some visual editing but mainly built for the future, expecting to only have to buy a new graphic card in a couple of years (which seems kind of inevitable anyway). Absolutely no overclocking. Budget max. of E1200,-

Would that work? Feedback is super welcome.

Seen this;

On November 22 2012 16:54 iTzSnypah wrote:

GTX 660Ti is a bandwidth starved GTX 670, Get the cheaper GTX 660 or HD7870. Quality 500w PSU will power ANY Single GPU system.

On the power supply; I'll be adding quite some older stuff and absolutely want to avoid a shortage, esp. for the E10 its extra.

Considering GPU feedback (even if it wasn't for me).

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