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Sein
United States1811 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:01 Passion wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hi! I'm planning to buy something like this; + Show Spoiler + Processor - Intel Core i7-3770, 3.40GHz, 8MB, HD4000, S1155 Motherboard - Asus P8H77-V LE S1155 H77 4xDDR3 ATX Graphic card - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti, 2048MB Memory - 1x Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL10 Proc. Cooler - Scythe Mugen 3 Rev.B PCGH Harddisk - SanDisk Extreme SSD 120GB 2.5” SATA3 PSU - Be Quiet! Straight Power E9 600W Case - Corsair Carbide 400R ATX Quite some gaming, quite some visual editing but mainly built for the future, expecting to only have to buy a new graphic card in a couple of years (which seems kind of inevitable anyway). Absolutely no overclocking. Budget max. of E1200,- Would that work? Feedback is super welcome. Seen this; On November 22 2012 16:54 iTzSnypah wrote: GTX 660Ti is a bandwidth starved GTX 670, Get the cheaper GTX 660 or HD7870. Quality 500w PSU will power ANY Single GPU system. On the power supply; I'll be adding quite some older stuff and absolutely want to avoid a shortage, esp. for the E10 its extra. Considering GPU feedback (even if it wasn't for me). What kind of older stuff do you have? Three more graphics cards that you're rigging via PCIe 1x lanes? Does it use more power than the current system combined? 600W seriously? Then again, I doubt it's incredibly more expensive than other E9 models. E9 is kind of a mediocre line except for the good fan and low noise, high efficiency. Depending on how much you care about certain things, something else could be a better pick. If you want to try your luck at an SSD with a SandForce controller and firmware, be aware of the risks and problems, weird incompatibility issues on some systems. There seem to be less BSODs and problems these days, but I don't think people seriously trust these more than those drives with firmware from larger companies which actually do proper validation testing. Most likely you'll be fine though. Mugen 3 is for what? Overclocking i7-3770 (can't beyond 400 MHz) on a H77 motherboard (can't at all)? Lower noise? If you want lower noise, what are you doing with that GTX 660 Ti and a Corsair 400R? On November 23 2012 04:12 Sein wrote: What kind of PSU do I need for something like mild to moderately OC'ed i7-3770k and 670 SLI (Non-OC)? The good 550W models would be plenty. Prices of decent 650W and 750W models would be similar, so whatever has 4 PCIe connectors unless you want to use molex adapters (which work just fine, except in very rare cases of shoddy connections going loose and ensuing burnt plastic). Stuff like NZXT Hale90 and Kingwin Lazer (Absolute) Platinum 550W would be the good models. Kingwin AP is selling for $90: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121094 | ||
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poopman
Canada83 Posts
Hi I need a new computer, its time i went from a Phenom I to something else.... Hopefully I'll get some good deals with the upcoming black friday/cyber monday deals.. What is your budget? Max $800 monitor os included What is your resolution? Well I need a new monitor What are you using it for? Mostly games, but I'll also video encode etc. What is your upgrade cycle? 2 years When do you plan on building it? This weekend Do you plan on overclocking? If the budget allows it Do you need an Operating System? Yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No Where are you buying your parts from? In Canada so NCIX and other online retailers | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:57 Myrmidon wrote: What kind of older stuff do you have? Three more graphics cards that you're rigging via PCIe 1x lanes? Does it use more power than the current system combined? 600W seriously? Then again, I doubt it's incredibly more expensive than other E9 models. E9 is kind of a mediocre line except for the good fan and low noise, high efficiency. Depending on how much you care about certain things, something else could be a better pick. If you want to try your luck at an SSD with a SandForce controller and firmware, be aware of the risks and problems, weird incompatibility issues on some systems. There seem to be less BSODs and problems these days, but I don't think people seriously trust these more than those drives with firmware from larger companies which actually do proper validation testing. Most likely you'll be fine though. Mugen 3 is for what? Overclocking i7-3770 (can't beyond 400 MHz) on a H77 motherboard (can't at all)? Lower noise? If you want lower noise, what are you doing with that GTX 660 Ti and a Corsair 400R? The good 550W models would be plenty. Prices of decent 650W and 750W models would be similar, so whatever has 4 PCIe connectors unless you want to use molex adapters (which work just fine, except in very rare cases of shoddy connections going loose and ensuing burnt plastic). Stuff like NZXT Hale90 and Kingwin Lazer (Absolute) Platinum 550W would be the good models. Kingwin AP is selling for $90: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121094 Would something like this do as well? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171068 | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On November 23 2012 05:44 Sein wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 23 2012 04:57 Myrmidon wrote: What kind of older stuff do you have? Three more graphics cards that you're rigging via PCIe 1x lanes? Does it use more power than the current system combined? 600W seriously? Then again, I doubt it's incredibly more expensive than other E9 models. E9 is kind of a mediocre line except for the good fan and low noise, high efficiency. Depending on how much you care about certain things, something else could be a better pick. If you want to try your luck at an SSD with a SandForce controller and firmware, be aware of the risks and problems, weird incompatibility issues on some systems. There seem to be less BSODs and problems these days, but I don't think people seriously trust these more than those drives with firmware from larger companies which actually do proper validation testing. Most likely you'll be fine though. Mugen 3 is for what? Overclocking i7-3770 (can't beyond 400 MHz) on a H77 motherboard (can't at all)? Lower noise? If you want lower noise, what are you doing with that GTX 660 Ti and a Corsair 400R? The good 550W models would be plenty. Prices of decent 650W and 750W models would be similar, so whatever has 4 PCIe connectors unless you want to use molex adapters (which work just fine, except in very rare cases of shoddy connections going loose and ensuing burnt plastic). Stuff like NZXT Hale90 and Kingwin Lazer (Absolute) Platinum 550W would be the good models. Kingwin AP is selling for $90: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121094 Would something like this do as well? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171068 Yes, it will do, but it's significantly worse, not as silent or pro as the other. If you want something modular and cheaper, Toughpower XT should be a bit better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153125 It's not going to be quiet on a high load, but neither is GTX 670 SLI. | ||
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Introvert
United States4850 Posts
Specs: 990fx professional series motherboard phenom II X4 965 (yes, I know both of these are inferior to intel, but I don't have the money to replace both) SAPPHIRE 100352OCSR Radeon HD 7950 thermaltake 600 W 8GB ddr3 ram some older hard drive Where I am it gets very hot, with my processor passing recommended temps (around 63 C, or maybe 73.. one of the two) regularly. I will be buying more thermal paste so I can do it properly this time (if I didn't last time). I learned from my last post that I can't expect the case to change this too much, but I would like a new case anyway because my current one is cramped and breaking down. I've been looking, and been thinking about these COOLER MASTER CM690 II antec 1200 HAF 922 I'm just looking for a good case with good airflow, nothing fancy. Low noise is nice but not required. Also, if I were to upgrade my CPU and mobo, would I need a new PSU? | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On November 23 2012 06:21 Introvert wrote: Ok, so a couple months ago I asked this question, but I'm going to do so again with the hopes that it won't be derailed this time. What would be a good case to buy? Specs: 990fx professional series motherboard phenom II X4 965 (yes, I know both of these are inferior to intel, but I don't have the money to replace both) SAPPHIRE 100352OCSR Radeon HD 7950 thermaltake 600 W 8GB ddr3 ram some older hard drive Where I am it gets very hot, with my processor passing recommended temps (around 63 C, or maybe 73.. one of the two) regularly. I will be buying more thermal paste so I can do it properly this time (if I didn't last time). I learned from my last post that I can't expect the case to change this too much, but I would like a new case anyway because my current one is cramped and breaking down. I've been looking, and been thinking about these COOLER MASTER CM690 II antec 1200 HAF 922 I'm just looking for a good case with good airflow, nothing fancy. Low noise is nice but not required. Also, if I were to upgrade my CPU and mobo, would I need a new PSU? No need to spend a fortune. Fractal Design Arc Midi has just as good airflow design as some of those. But like you are saying, the temperatures won't change much by just switching chassis. Buy yourself a good heat sink and some fans if you're so concerned. | ||
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Gumbi
Ireland463 Posts
On November 23 2012 02:01 Passion wrote: Hi! I'm planning to buy something like this; + Show Spoiler + Processor - Intel Core i7-3770, 3.40GHz, 8MB, HD4000, S1155 Motherboard - Asus P8H77-V LE S1155 H77 4xDDR3 ATX Graphic card - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti, 2048MB Memory - 1x Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL10 Proc. Cooler - Scythe Mugen 3 Rev.B PCGH Harddisk - SanDisk Extreme SSD 120GB 2.5” SATA3 PSU - Be Quiet! Straight Power E9 600W Case - Corsair Carbide 400R ATX Quite some gaming, quite some visual editing but mainly built for the future, expecting to only have to buy a new graphic card in a couple of years (which seems kind of inevitable anyway). Absolutely no overclocking. Budget max. of E1200,- Would that work? Feedback is super welcome. Seen this; On the power supply; I'll be adding quite some older stuff and absolutely want to avoid a shortage, esp. for the E10 its extra. Considering GPU feedback (even if it wasn't for me). I'm not an expert but here's my opinion. You could save a lot by going 8 GB RAM, i53570k. (That RAM is also clocked at 1600MHz which I hear doesn't make too much of a difference). This would free up quite a bit of cash for a better card, perhaps a 256GB SSD too. | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
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Introvert
United States4850 Posts
On November 23 2012 08:02 Shauni wrote: No need to spend a fortune. Fractal Design Arc Midi has just as good airflow design as some of those. But like you are saying, the temperatures won't change much by just switching chassis. Buy yourself a good heat sink and some fans if you're so concerned. Thanks, cheap is what I wanted! I couldn't buy a new heatsink/fan yet because it (barely) wouldn't fit in my current case. Sold out at newegg, $100 at amazon..time to do some searching when I get home. | ||
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Shauni
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eklu65
United States17 Posts
On November 21 2012 15:13 Myrmidon wrote: + Show Spoiler + Several things. Both your old power supply and the one you listed can handle roughly 3x the power draw of that system. Old one is fine. If you wanted something modular and new, the (new) Corsair HX750 is very good, but something else would make more sense. No overclocking means the cooler in the CPU package box is good enough, so you don't need an aftermarket heatsink. (For that matter, that's one of the worst, most overpriced heatsinks you can buy these days. See all the newegg reviews? That usually means it's a product that has been on store shelves since the stone ages.) It also means an i5-3570 is just as good as the i5-3570k, and a B75 or H77 motherboard more in the $80 range is more appropriate unless you have any idea what kind of extra features on the P8Z77-V LK you'd actually be using. RAM is cheap, but wtf kind of game do you expect will use like 10GB? Actually, until they become 64-bit programs only, they're not going to use more than 2GB... Having way extra memory is like having a work bench that's way too large. If you've already got everything nearby that you need, the extra space with nothing sitting in it doesn't actually make anything run faster. The video card uses a reference-style blower cooler design, which exhausts most of the heat outside of the case but is loud and doesn't cool particularly well (but good enough). Most people using a single graphics card would probably prefer another model, unless you really want to stick with EVGA, which is fine. You can probably afford a new case if you want, so knock yourself out. New motherboard means you need to reinstall the OS, so why not get an SSD while you're at it too? Ok, so I revised based on your suggestions. Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129092 Friend wanted to have matching cases. I think the flamboyant yellow is what sold me. Planning on loading that thing up with fans, mostly so I can see if it flies. This one had a $40 off promotion that ended yesterday (in addition to the -$40 taken off instantly), and I'm betting it will have a new similar promotion pretty soon. Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131835 Let me know if this is good enough. Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233185 I'm open to ideas on this one. processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 I think the small increase in price for the added potential flexibility of overclocking is worth it. vid card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787 What other gtx 670's do you recommend? I'd prefer to stick to nvidia, and I tend to trust EVGA more than most others. Like I said, just trying to give myself room for upgrading to a 2560X1600 monitor/tv in the near future. heat sink xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I still kind of think I'd like to have an after market heatsink. Temps in my room get pretty hot during summer, and I know those stock heatsinks don't help much at all in cooling anything. Anything cheap and even remotely effective is good enough for me. SSD xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx How large of a benefit would I gain from installing my OS on a SSD compared to just keeping my 7200RPM hard drive alone? Is it pretty significant? I have quite a bit of flexibility now, I'm open to trying one. I'm just curious about how I'd go about using it, or if it would make a significant improvement. Power supply xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Ok, so my current power supply is good enough? It's not a large concern that it's not bronze-gold rated? It's 80+ certified, with 70A on the 12V rail. I feel like it's more than enough, but I know most people tend to stress looking for one that is bronze-gold rated. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On November 23 2012 11:36 eklu65 wrote: Ok, so I revised based on your suggestions. Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129092 Friend wanted to have matching cases. I think the flamboyant yellow is what sold me. Planning on loading that thing up with fans, mostly so I can see if it flies. This one had a $40 off promotion that ended yesterday, and I'm betting it will have a new similar promotion pretty soon. Mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131835 Let me know if this is good enough. Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233185 I'm open to ideas on this one. processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 I think the small increase in price for the added potential flexibility of overclocking is worth it. vid card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787 What other gtx 670's do you recommend? I'd prefer to stick to nvidia, and I tend to trust EVGA more than most others. Like I said, just trying to give myself room for upgrading to a 2560X1600 monitor/tv in the near future. heat sink xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I still kind of think I'd like to have an after market heatsink. Temps in my room get pretty hot during summer, and I know those stock heatsinks don't help much at all in cooling anything. Anything cheap and even remotely effective is good enough for me. SSD xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx How large of a benefit would I gain from installing my OS on a SSD compared to just keeping my 7200RPM hard drive alone? Is it pretty significant? I have quite a bit of flexibility now, I'm open to trying one. I'm just curious about how I'd go about using it, or if it would make a significant improvement. Power supply xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Ok, so my current power supply is good enough? It's not a large concern that it's not bronze-gold rated? It's 80+ certified, with 70A on the 12V rail. I feel like it's more than enough, but I know most people tend to stress looking for one that is bronze-gold rated. You need a Z series motherboard to overclock (Z77). B and H series motherboards don't overclock for Intel. For memory, seriously just get an 8GB G.Skill ripjaws/value series (it's like 32$). You're looking at ~2% difference in performance, maybe. And OS on an SSD will have a very noticeable difference, generally you try to put all of your programs on the SSD, and storage like music on a HDD. | ||
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eklu65
United States17 Posts
On November 23 2012 12:04 Alryk wrote: You need a Z series motherboard to overclock (Z77). B and H series motherboards don't overclock for Intel. For memory, seriously just get an 8GB G.Skill ripjaws/value series (it's like 32$). You're looking at ~2% difference in performance, maybe. And OS on an SSD will have a very noticeable difference, generally you try to put all of your programs on the SSD, and storage like music on a HDD. No problem with the mobo, luckily I found http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837 which has a $20 rebate, along with a $20 instant off code. Ok, so along these lines? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 As for the SSD, what brand tends to be the most trusted? | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
 ) Crucial m4, Samsung 830 if you can get it on sale, Intel 5xx series, and plextor m3 (i think is what it is). | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Samsung 840 120gb for $90: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188 Most of the 830 sales should be done by now since the drive has been phased out. | ||
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eklu65
United States17 Posts
I was looking at that one. How does the $90 compare? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
Is there really any reason to get something like the 840 Pro? Haven't they shown that SSD endurance isn't really an issue anymore? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
It's not about the memory.. okay I guess for some, they're probably going to be paranoid about it but you get a 840 pro because it's faster (and carries a five year warranty). | ||
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