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On November 25 2012 01:38 DL_henu wrote:What is your budget?My budget is around 1200-1300 euros. What is your resolution?I was planning 1920x1080 What are you using it for?Gaming and streaming. Would like to play recent titles with high graphics quality What is your upgrade cycle?Long (2+ years)
When do you plan on building it?Next week Do you plan on overclocking?Maybe later on. Do you need an Operating System?No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?No. Where are you buying your parts from?http://www.jimms.fi/ (can pick up parts locally) Here's what i have thought so far: DVD driveSony AD-5280S (cheapest one available) MotherboardAsRock Z77 Pro3HDDSeagate 1TB BarracudaCaseFractal Design Define R4RAMCorsair 8GB (2x4GB) Vengeance DDR3, 1600MHzGPUXFX AMD Radeon HD 7950CPUIntel Ivy Bridge i5-3570KPSUXFX 650W Core EditionMonitorDell 23'' UltraSharp U2312HM=1174,3 euros This is my first build so let me know what you think. Since i can use around 100euros more for this build should i 1) Upgrade GPU to 7970 (for example) 2) Upgrade monitor to something bigger, maybe even 1920x1200 3) Add aftermarket cooler 4) Upgrade something else Any feedback is appreciated!
If you plan on overclocking later on then just buy an aftermarket cooler already, since whenever it is that you decide you want to overclock, your going to have to buy an aftermarket cooler and go through the hassle of installing it. Better that you get it out of the way and buy it with your initial purchase of parts.
Especially with that ivy bridge cpu it WILL get very hot so a good cpu cooler is needed.
Coolermaster 212 evo + Show Spoiler +http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/RR-212E-16PK-R1
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On November 25 2012 01:09 jacosajh wrote:
Besides the fact that it looks gimmicky... I don't know... why?
Its kind of cheap for what it is (what it looks to me at least). $30-15MIR
Edit: link for anyone else: http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX41036
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What is it? Besides probably rebranded generic ram with gimmicky heat spreaders...? And "on sale" to make you feel like you got a deal...
It's a tricky rabbit is what it is
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Thanks for the input but thats a US site and I am from Canada.
Isn't the cas latency of the patriot 9?
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On November 25 2012 02:15 jacosajh wrote:
What is it? Besides probably rebranded generic ram with gimmicky heat spreaders...? And "on sale" to make you feel like you got a deal...
It's a tricky rabbit is what it is
But can you point me to a better deal after delivery? (and im talking a better deal before MIR)
delivery of 5$ from memoryexpress, $7 from NCIX and newegg.ca varies
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I could've sworn there was a better shop in Finland, but I forget what it was...
It's annoying to install an aftermarket heatsink later, so you may as well do it now. I agree with getting some decent tower heatsink now, no need for anything that fancy.
Don't get an XFX Radeon this generation. Actually, for that matter, HD 7950 is pretty excessive for 1080p 60Hz gaming. I wouldn't go higher than 7870, but if you want a 7950, take the Gigabyte instead:
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/GV-R795WF3-3GD
Power supply is good but way overkill. The 550W version (a different, worse design, but plenty good enough) is cheaper and still excessive:
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/P1-550S-XXB9
Wtf is a 1200 euros build doing without an SSD? Please do yourself a favor and fix that:
http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/SSDSC2CT120A3K5
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anyone knows if theres going to be good sales the day after xmas or i'm better buying the stuff for my new computer right now?
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December sales are typically better.
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so specifically the day after xmas or just overall during the whole month the sales are better? :o i'm guessing its the sales after at least it would make more sense to me :o
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Online Boxing Day sales typically start the night of Christmas Eve, some retailers will have Days of Christmas sales, and of course Boxing Day itself if you want to line up at 4 am.
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On November 25 2012 01:50 Mbf wrote:If you plan on overclocking later on then just buy an aftermarket cooler already, since whenever it is that you decide you want to overclock, your going to have to buy an aftermarket cooler and go through the hassle of installing it. Better that you get it out of the way and buy it with your initial purchase of parts. Especially with that ivy bridge cpu it WILL get very hot so a good cpu cooler is needed. Coolermaster 212 evo + Show Spoiler +http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/RR-212E-16PK-R1
Installing an aftermarket cooler is hardly a 'hassle'. They are all quite easy to install.
I'd say it's better to stick with stock cooling if you aren't overclocking, put that extra budget to a better CPU/GPU/accessory, and if you do decide to overclock, test out stock volts on stock cooling, or a bit of playing around, to see how your chip reacts to overclocking, and if you need more cooling, get what you need. If you've got a hot chip or you want to push it hard, a hyper 212+ is going to be a terrible cooler, but if you run cooler or don't plan to overvolt much or aren't trying to max out, then it's fine. It's not a great cooler, it's just great for the price.
I'd recommend the cm 212+ over the evo anyways. At stock, the Hyper 212+ is actually better due to a stronger fan, but with identical fan setups, the Evo is a degree or two cooler (so the 'true' cost of the evo is $15-25 more).
I mean if your getting into overclocking, you should buy 2 good fans to put on the heatsink and then put the stock fan as a case fan somewhere, but the 212+ is a budget cooler for a really low price, not a performance cooler.
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On November 25 2012 04:32 skyR wrote:
Online Boxing Day sales typically start the night of Christmas Eve, some retailers will have Days of Christmas sales, and of course Boxing Day itself if you want to line up at 4 am.
alright thanks for the info/clarifications skyR  i'll wait till online boxing day to buy parts for my new PC
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Hi all, first time computer builder here, still gathering the funds to build my first rig, but I'm doing research in the meanwhile.
For my graphics card, would this be a good deal? 50% after MIR seems insane, especially given the reviews I'm reading:
EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Especially when compared to similar graphics cards that seem to be only slightly better, not worth the $220 difference imo.
Any opinions on whether I should buy it even if it might be overkill? Should I buy it if it comes back in stock and keep it around until I build my computer which will be in around 1-2 months?
Thanks for your time.
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That's a 560 Ti 448, not a 670. It's a discontinued model so the chances of it coming in stock are slim to none.
If all you care about is performance than yes it was a good deal.
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On November 25 2012 05:04 Belial88 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:50 Mbf wrote:On November 25 2012 01:38 DL_henu wrote:What is your budget?My budget is around 1200-1300 euros. What is your resolution?I was planning 1920x1080 What are you using it for?Gaming and streaming. Would like to play recent titles with high graphics quality What is your upgrade cycle?Long (2+ years)
When do you plan on building it?Next week Do you plan on overclocking?Maybe later on. Do you need an Operating System?No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?No. Where are you buying your parts from?http://www.jimms.fi/ (can pick up parts locally) Here's what i have thought so far: DVD driveSony AD-5280S (cheapest one available) MotherboardAsRock Z77 Pro3HDDSeagate 1TB BarracudaCaseFractal Design Define R4RAMCorsair 8GB (2x4GB) Vengeance DDR3, 1600MHzGPUXFX AMD Radeon HD 7950CPUIntel Ivy Bridge i5-3570KPSUXFX 650W Core EditionMonitorDell 23'' UltraSharp U2312HM=1174,3 euros This is my first build so let me know what you think. Since i can use around 100euros more for this build should i 1) Upgrade GPU to 7970 (for example) 2) Upgrade monitor to something bigger, maybe even 1920x1200 3) Add aftermarket cooler 4) Upgrade something else Any feedback is appreciated! If you plan on overclocking later on then just buy an aftermarket cooler already, since whenever it is that you decide you want to overclock, your going to have to buy an aftermarket cooler and go through the hassle of installing it. Better that you get it out of the way and buy it with your initial purchase of parts. Especially with that ivy bridge cpu it WILL get very hot so a good cpu cooler is needed. Coolermaster 212 evo + Show Spoiler +http://www.jimms.fi/tuote/RR-212E-16PK-R1 Installing an aftermarket cooler is hardly a 'hassle'. They are all quite easy to install. I'd say it's better to stick with stock cooling if you aren't overclocking, put that extra budget to a better CPU/GPU/accessory, and if you do decide to overclock, test out stock volts on stock cooling, or a bit of playing around, to see how your chip reacts to overclocking, and if you need more cooling, get what you need. If you've got a hot chip or you want to push it hard, a hyper 212+ is going to be a terrible cooler, but if you run cooler or don't plan to overvolt much or aren't trying to max out, then it's fine. It's not a great cooler, it's just great for the price. I'd recommend the cm 212+ over the evo anyways. At stock, the Hyper 212+ is actually better due to a stronger fan, but with identical fan setups, the Evo is a degree or two cooler (so the 'true' cost of the evo is $15-25 more). I mean if your getting into overclocking, you should buy 2 good fans to put on the heatsink and then put the stock fan as a case fan somewhere, but the 212+ is a budget cooler for a really low price, not a performance cooler.
How much of a difference would a second fan on the hyper 212 + make? I have a second one but I haven't added it to my system. How would I add it, by the way? Only metal clips came with the cooler, and I'd need two more to hook up a second fan.
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A little bit. Don't bother if you don't need it. Temps either reach "oh fuck my computer is melting" or "who cares, the computer is fine".
The fan on the Coolermaster Hyper 212+ is just a Coolermaster R4 when I last checked. Its like...$10?
I think the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo will be much easier to install than the Hyper 212+. The mounting bracket of the Hyper 212+ is pretty confusing and the exposed heatpipes don't make it any easier to get a perfect install.
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What is your budget?
My budget is around 600-750 CAD
What is your resolution?
I was planning 1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming and editing
What is your upgrade cycle?
Long (2+ years)
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes
Do you need an Operating System?
No.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Please get all the products from http://www.memoryexpress.com/ ! Thank youu
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