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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Ganjamaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Argentina475 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 15:52:11
December 15 2010 15:51 GMT
#2521
Double post
My hoes be the thickest, my dro.. the stickiest
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14900 Posts
December 15 2010 18:55 GMT
#2522
On December 16 2010 00:51 Ganjamaster wrote:
Hey TL,

I want to build myself a new PC for gaming and movies mainly. I used to be into computer builds and whatnot but I have not been keeping up to date for a couple of years now so it turns out I don´t know anything anymore for practical purposes. Please advise on a computer build that will suit my needs adequately, I will post the questions on the OP and fill them in for your convenience.Thank you for your time and help, it is much appreciated.

What is your budget?

2000 - 2500 USD

What is your resolution?

I need to buy a new display for this rig as well. I guess the resolution would be limited by the display, hence the highest possible/feasible for the display chosen?

What are you using it for?

I will be using this computer for gaming of all sorts and general office work (no photoshop, no Autocad or any other design software)

What is your upgrade cycle?

My upgrade cycle is long. Since importing tech to my country is expensive and time consuming, I only do it every once in while (2 + years), so it must be built to last.

When do you plan on building it?

I plan on acquiring these parts around mid to the end of February.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

A priori no, but if you think it provides a substantial benefit in any major department, I might consider it.

Notes

I am moving to a new apartment and this computer will be placed in my new "office". In the living room I am going to put a new, 46 inch HD flatscreen. I would like to watch HD media from my computer on this TV. What is the best way to do so, considering the TV would be located in a separate room than the computer?. Achieving this objective is paramount to building the rig in question (HD GSL on 46 inch tv...)

Thanks!




In all seriousness, come back in February and ask for your build again, because getting parts recommended now when so much new hardware will come out by then just seems silly

as an aside, with a 2000-2500 build you're looking at a pretty top level system, that'll be fun to price out later
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 15 2010 18:58 GMT
#2523
I was wondering, anyone else here use a keyboard without a wrist-rest? Using a Kensington Washable, comes without a wrist-rest since well its not for gaming. Does it make a big difference?

If anyone questions, I prefer to use standard since gaming keyboards are a total waste of money. D:
Maybe invest for a mechanical keyboard later on...
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
itzjohnny
Profile Joined September 2010
62 Posts
December 15 2010 23:21 GMT
#2524
On December 16 2010 00:51 Ganjamaster wrote:
Hey TL,

I want to build myself a new PC for gaming and movies mainly. I used to be into computer builds and whatnot but I have not been keeping up to date for a couple of years now so it turns out I don´t know anything anymore for practical purposes. Please advise on a computer build that will suit my needs adequately, I will post the questions on the OP and fill them in for your convenience.Thank you for your time and help, it is much appreciated.

What is your budget?

2000 - 2500 USD

What is your resolution?

I need to buy a new display for this rig as well. I guess the resolution would be limited by the display, hence the highest possible/feasible for the display chosen?

What are you using it for?

I will be using this computer for gaming of all sorts and general office work (no photoshop, no Autocad or any other design software)

What is your upgrade cycle?

My upgrade cycle is long. Since importing tech to my country is expensive and time consuming, I only do it every once in while (2 + years), so it must be built to last.

When do you plan on building it?

I plan on acquiring these parts around mid to the end of February.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

A priori no, but if you think it provides a substantial benefit in any major department, I might consider it.

Notes

I am moving to a new apartment and this computer will be placed in my new "office". In the living room I am going to put a new, 46 inch HD flatscreen. I would like to watch HD media from my computer on this TV. What is the best way to do so, considering the TV would be located in a separate room than the computer?. Achieving this objective is paramount to building the rig in question (HD GSL on 46 inch tv...)

Thanks!





For the uses that you've provided, you don't even have to spend nearly as much as your budget allows you to get fairly good components that fulfill your needs. Your best bet is to wait until 2011 to build the new computer. I would wait for Intel's next generation of CPUs to be released at the very least before purchasing anything for a computer.

An i5-760 (or it's second generation equivalent)
Nvidia 460 (or anything equivalent/higher)
4GB Ram (anything higher is not necessary for your uses)
A SSD (having a budget like that, I feel like it would be a shame to not invest in a SSD)

The CPU is being released January 9th. Some 3rd generation SSDs are being released in Q2 of 2011 I believe. Newer and better GPUs are likely to be released but even if they don't, there are quite a bit to choose from currently.
Ganjamaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Argentina475 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 00:58:30
December 16 2010 00:57 GMT
#2525
Thank you guys for answers, they were very useful. I wanted to add that the budget needs to include a good display. I will re-bump this request in february as you suggested, I wanted to get a "feel" about how the budget would do nowadays. The thing is that my country has a pretty hefty import tax (50%) on anything tech, so you need to go through some special channels in order to get this stuff in, this is why I would need to know a little bit in advance, not this much in advance though.

An additional question I have is what would be the best method to hook up my flatscreen tv to the computer. Because if the best option involves wiring (as opposed to wireless/stream to PS3 or other device) I would need to know sooner in order for the people to drill the necessary holes before painting.

Again, thank you all very much!

My hoes be the thickest, my dro.. the stickiest
Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
December 16 2010 03:39 GMT
#2526
Can anyone recommend me a good (gaming) motherboard or two for i3-550 CPU?

I am going to build for the first time. I also have GTX 460 768mb, 650W power supply. I plan to upgrade the CPU later eventually.

I know I can put more time to research, but I wanted to get quick answers from you vets. My budget is $100 by the way.

Thanks in advance!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 16 2010 04:14 GMT
#2527
What's a gaming motherboard? Some higher-end motherboards have beefy voltage regulation modules with many "phases" and a decent heatsink for them, which would support high CPU overclocks. On stock CPU frequencies, most any motherboard is going to be more than fine running any supported CPU. Some higher-end motherboards support multiple GPUs, but I don't think you can get an LGA 1156 board with SLI support for $100.

Any LGA 1156 board in your price range from a decent manufacturer (Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, MSI probably) should be okay, unless you have a particular need.

Also, keep in mind that no current motherboard will be compatible with the new generations of CPUs coming out early this January for Intel and later 2011 for AMD. Maybe it's a good idea to just wait until January 9th or whatever and pick up a Core i3-2300 (or whatever the number is) and LGA 1155 motherboard?

Which parts do you already have?
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 16 2010 04:16 GMT
#2528
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130240

You could get cheaper deals if you dont mind a Micro over a standard ATX.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 04:18:32
December 16 2010 04:17 GMT
#2529
On December 16 2010 13:14 Myrmidon wrote:
What's a gaming motherboard? Some higher-end motherboards have beefy voltage regulation modules with many "phases" and a decent heatsink for them, which would support high CPU overclocks. On stock CPU frequencies, most any motherboard is going to be more than fine running any supported CPU. Some higher-end motherboards support multiple GPUs, but I don't think you can get an LGA 1156 board with SLI support for $100.

Any LGA 1156 board in your price range from a decent manufacturer (Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, MSI probably) should be okay, unless you have a particular need.

Also, keep in mind that no current motherboard will be compatible with the new generations of CPUs coming out early this January for Intel and later 2011 for AMD. Maybe it's a good idea to just wait until January 9th or whatever and pick up a Core i3-2300 (or whatever the number is) and LGA 1155 motherboard?

Which parts do you already have?


I think it as easy to OC and manage? I guess you would just assume he wants a decent mobo that gets the job done. D:

edit: And yes, I upgraded recently since I was impatient to wait 2 months for Sandy Bridge. Oh well, I will be satisfied with my cheap 760 after it gets OCed.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
December 16 2010 05:05 GMT
#2530
[b][b]
On December 16 2010 13:17 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2010 13:14 Myrmidon wrote:
What's a gaming motherboard? Some higher-end motherboards have beefy voltage regulation modules with many "phases" and a decent heatsink for them, which would support high CPU overclocks. On stock CPU frequencies, most any motherboard is going to be more than fine running any supported CPU. Some higher-end motherboards support multiple GPUs, but I don't think you can get an LGA 1156 board with SLI support for $100.

Any LGA 1156 board in your price range from a decent manufacturer (Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, MSI probably) should be okay, unless you have a particular need.

Also, keep in mind that no current motherboard will be compatible with the new generations of CPUs coming out early this January for Intel and later 2011 for AMD. Maybe it's a good idea to just wait until January 9th or whatever and pick up a Core i3-2300 (or whatever the number is) and LGA 1155 motherboard?

Which parts do you already have?


I think it as easy to OC and manage? I guess you would just assume he wants a decent mobo that gets the job done. D:

edit: And yes, I upgraded recently since I was impatient to wait 2 months for Sandy Bridge. Oh well, I will be satisfied with my cheap 760 after it gets OCed.


Yeah pretty much these. Thx for the input guys
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 16 2010 05:20 GMT
#2531
On December 16 2010 13:14 Myrmidon wrote:
What's a gaming motherboard? Some higher-end motherboards have beefy voltage regulation modules with many "phases" and a decent heatsink for them, which would support high CPU overclocks. On stock CPU frequencies, most any motherboard is going to be more than fine running any supported CPU. Some higher-end motherboards support multiple GPUs, but I don't think you can get an LGA 1156 board with SLI support for $100.

Any LGA 1156 board in your price range from a decent manufacturer (Gigabyte, Asus, EVGA, MSI probably) should be okay, unless you have a particular need.

Also, keep in mind that no current motherboard will be compatible with the new generations of CPUs coming out early this January for Intel and later 2011 for AMD. Maybe it's a good idea to just wait until January 9th or whatever and pick up a Core i3-2300 (or whatever the number is) and LGA 1155 motherboard?

Which parts do you already have?


Core i5 2300, all the initial launch processors are going to be quad cores. The dual cores (core i3) won't be coming until February.
johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
December 17 2010 05:16 GMT
#2532
Hey guys, I'm thinking of adding an SSD to my rig so stuff loads faster.

Mainly just for the OS and SC2 + some random games like dragon age and arkham asylum that I have lying around.

I already have a 1TB main HDD, and a 500GB external, storage is not a problem

How much space would you recommend? 64GB? 32GB?
Money is an issue, I'd like not to spend too much on it.

Any good recommendations? My case already has adapters for 2.5" drive bays so that's not an issue too.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 17 2010 06:07 GMT
#2533
Even 64 GB is a little on the small size. I'd think about 90 GB or so if you're keeping multiple games on there, but maybe around 64 GB is okay. The performance for loading games/levels/maps is a little less than you may be hoping for, if that's what you're expecting out of it (though of course the difference is significant). The difference in day-to-day operations and loading some other programs may be a little more. Check some reviews.

At around that capacity level, the SSDs with the SandForce controller (e.g. Corsair Force, OCZ Agility or Vertex 2, G.Skill Phoenix Pro, etc.) tend to perform pretty much identically and above average in all aspects. Intel's SSDs are a little bit dated, but they're very good other than sequential write performance--the least important metric for most people. There are others too, of course.

There may be a better place to look, but you can check around here for deals that pop up. OCZ Vertex 2 60 GB was recently $100 after MIR, but that's expired.
Mascherano
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Argentina1726 Posts
December 17 2010 16:49 GMT
#2534
Hey guys just wanted some opinions since I don't know anything about this:

I'm building my budget PC and I'm choosing between these processors:

AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.1GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103872
and

AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871

also, do those two work with this mobo:
MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130290

I will be using a HD 5770 with this PC.
I will not be overclocking anything. Why? Well I'm building a computer for the first time and I don't even know how to do that, and overclocking scares me, don't wanna burn or explode anything. I will only be doing college papers and sc2 + some other games this pc. No streaming or other fancy stuff. All I want is stable fps when I play 1v1's and also when I play team games with shitons of units.

ty
Bisu
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
December 17 2010 16:51 GMT
#2535
On December 18 2010 01:49 Mascherano wrote:
Hey guys just wanted some opinions since I don't know anything about this:

I'm building my budget PC and I'm choosing between these processors:

AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.1GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103872
and

AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103871

also, do those two work with this mobo:
MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130290

I will be using a HD 5770 with this PC.
I will not be overclocking anything. Why? Well I'm building a computer for the first time and I don't even know how to do that, and overclocking scares me, don't wanna burn or explode anything. I will only be doing college papers and sc2 + some other games this pc. No streaming or other fancy stuff. All I want is stable fps when I play 1v1's and also when I play team games with shitons of units.

ty


get a phenon ii x4 955
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 17 2010 18:18 GMT
#2536
@Mascherano: an Athlon II X3 would be just as good as the X4 for your purposes, so you can go with that. The Phenom II X4 are considerably more expensive, although they're somewhat better. All your options should work with that motherboard, but in general you should check the motherboard manufacturer's website for a CPU compatibility list if you want to be extra sure. here

By the way, about everybody has fps issues in the largest team games with lots and lots of units. Overclocking would be a way to increase your fps for those demanding situations. You'd need an aftermarket CPU heatsink/fan for running any substantial overclocks though, and that may cost some $30 more. The motherboard supports significantly more power-hungry Phenom II X6 processors, so I'd think it has some reasonable headroom left running an Athlon II X3. Whether or not the performance boost is worth the money, some amount of research, the (small) risk, etc. is up to you.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 01:38:51
December 18 2010 01:36 GMT
#2537
Okay guys, I've been working on my PC a bit, and I've put together a rough initial list of parts. This being my first time building a computer, I'm open to any and all critiques/comments. Especially it would be nice to know about any critical incompatabilities/errors that I've missed.

Processor: AMD Athlon X4 635 Desktop Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103702
Price: $99

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-MA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128451&cm_re=AMD_chipset-_-13-128-451-_-Product
Price: $80

OR

Motherboard: Asus AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131651
Price: $100

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127490&cm_re=HD_5770-_-14-127-490-_-Product
Price: $150

PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA750W Continuous Power
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371026
Price: $99

Case: Cooler Master Basic Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119215
Price: $70

RAM: 4GB Ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231303
Price: $70

Cooler: Sunbeam CR-CCTF 12mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004
Price: $40

Total: ~$608-$630

So...whaddaya think?
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RemedySC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada176 Posts
December 18 2010 01:36 GMT
#2538
Hey, was wondering how these two motherboards differ from each other if anyone can help.

MBD-GIG H55M-D2H Motherboard 8GB DDR3
X58A-UD7 1366 4PCIE 6DDR3

I am getting a computer built next week, so far it has

INTEL I7 950 3.06GHz SKT1366 8M
GTX-470 GDDR5-1280MB 630MHz 320BIT
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 18 2010 01:43 GMT
#2539
On December 18 2010 10:36 Remedy01 wrote:
Hey, was wondering how these two motherboards differ from each other if anyone can help.

MBD-GIG H55M-D2H Motherboard 8GB DDR3
X58A-UD7 1366 4PCIE 6DDR3

I am getting a computer built next week, so far it has

INTEL I7 950 3.06GHz SKT1366 8M
GTX-470 GDDR5-1280MB 630MHz 320BIT



The H55 is for socket 1156 processors and the X58 board is for 1366 processors. i7 950 is a socket 1366 processor.

So you'd have to pick the X58 board.
RemedySC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada176 Posts
December 18 2010 01:51 GMT
#2540
On December 18 2010 10:43 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 10:36 Remedy01 wrote:
Hey, was wondering how these two motherboards differ from each other if anyone can help.

MBD-GIG H55M-D2H Motherboard 8GB DDR3
X58A-UD7 1366 4PCIE 6DDR3

I am getting a computer built next week, so far it has

INTEL I7 950 3.06GHz SKT1366 8M
GTX-470 GDDR5-1280MB 630MHz 320BIT



The H55 is for socket 1156 processors and the X58 board is for 1366 processors. i7 950 is a socket 1366 processor.

So you'd have to pick the X58 board.

Alright thanks, first time building a computer so pretty new to this XD
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