Computer Build Resource Thread - Page 1243

On September 28 2012 02:18 iTzSnypah wrote:

HD7870 $245AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127662

or

GTX 660 $229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130826


660 vs 7870
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=660

On average 7870 is a bit stronger(~7-10%) however in SC2 660 wins by about 35%.

On September 28 2012 12:02 9-BiT wrote:

I see, pardon my ignorance, I'm a bit new to this. I'm just sick of having a computer where I cannot get more than 5 fps in anything above 150 food battles. I suppose 'max fps' is a bit to ask for, but I just need something playable.

On September 28 2012 16:40 MisterFred wrote:
@Sein - The question in the OP about your resolution is trying to get you to tell us your monitor. It's important, because the higher the resolution, the more expensive graphics card you need for the same quality settings (higher resolutions look sharper even with larger screen sizes though). So if you already have a monitor, tell us what your current one is if you don't know its native (max) resolution. As for things getting cheaper - generally most computer parts don't drop in price fast (if at all), once they've been out for a month or two. There's a variety of reasons for that... but the upshot is as for a list of parts when you want to buy, because deals change, so what's the point of asking if you're not ready to buy?



Fill out the full questionnaire in the OP and make sure to specify your uses for the computer (what other games you play, and if high graphics settings are important to you). If you don't know your resolution, just specify your monitor. Overclocking isn't for everyone, but it isn't that hard and can be beneficial if you want to stream at high quality without some minor slowdowns in late game SC2.

You might also want to include your current setup if you think you might want to cannibalize parts from your existing computer rather than use it as a hand-me-down or something.

On September 29 2012 02:08 skyR wrote:
Not a good idea during this season.

Black Friday is in two months. One of two things will happen, you're going to regret not waiting for Black Friday or regret not purchasing x during the time before Black Friday.

Most people tend to overspend or misallocate their budget due to ignorance or the simple fact that they can't help it.

Since it's the high-end, more premium products that get the largest discounts. Chances are good, you're going to be spending more than you planned. A $110 SeasonicX 750 sounds much better than a Capstone 450-M you can get for $40 less right now. A 256gb SSD for ~$160 sounds much better than a 128gb SSD for ~$70 less.

If parts are DOA, you're going to be dealing with multiple manufacturers instead of just one or a few retailers.

On September 29 2012 02:44 Sein wrote:


What I've heard from a few friends is that BF usually has only low to mid-range products on big sales. Would you agree with this?

On September 27 2012 11:39 Shikyo wrote:

The 6 core's actually not worth it at all, ...Even the 70 dollar last-generation G850 is better for most games than the 6core phenom, and you'll likely save the same amount over time with lower energy bills(and have better upgrade prospects)

On September 29 2012 08:51 Womwomwom wrote:
Where have you lived in the last 3 years? AMD hasn't been worth buying except for the lowest end systems.

Airflow isn't going to help if your ambient temperature is high. If your desktop is overheating and you haven't put a blanket over it, you've got bigger problems like poorly mounted heatsinks.

On September 29 2012 09:12 skyR wrote:
If it's 70c during idle than no you did not install the heatsink correctly...

On September 29 2012 10:46 Womwomwom wrote:


40 degree idle/70 degree load is normal. That's how it should be. Getting more airflow is pointless, its aimed at stupid people. If you have unobstructed air going in and out, then there is no way a basic unoverclocked system is going to overheat.

I misread your post. You already have the AMD motherboard and processor...I thought you were going to buy an entirely new computer. If you were going to buy a new computer, you should get Intel everything. No, you cannot put an Intel chip into that motherboard. They won't even fit, that review you read is factually incorrect.

Even then, I don't know why you bought that system (since the 990 motherboard are pretty recents) because its a huge waste of money. Technology is one area where tribalism is huge so if lots of people say so and so is good, it does not mean its actually good. You have to use some critical thinking to figure out why something is good.

Its like how people to this day still have a (let's be honest here) racist boner for British hifi equipment, when in fact a lot of the hardware is expensive and frankly not that great (Cambridge Audio's low end for instance). But they will keep telling themselves that American, Nordic, and Japanese hardware is somehow inferior. There's no basis in such opinions.

Unlike hifi, computer hardware is easier to figure out. There's actual benchmarks and these benchmarks can be found on many, many websites. From such benchmarks, you will see that there isn't really a single thing AMD processors are good at anymore: worse performance, not really price competitive outside of cores, much worse power draw, worse heat output, shittier power management features in BIOS, worse chipsets, etc.

On September 29 2012 14:47 Infernal_dream wrote:
Them saying 70c is too hot is retarded. There's a reason the processor isn't underclocking itself at 70. Because it's perfectly fine running at them temperature. You get to 85/90 then you need to worry. Also, if you wanted to OC you wouldn't need a new case. You'd need a new heatsink.