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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
xavra41
Profile Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 05:45:45
September 03 2012 04:51 GMT
#24461
--edit-- nevermind I comepleted my order and, if all goes well, then I can show you how awesome it is!
sauman
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 12:21:01
September 03 2012 05:59 GMT
#24462
bought my pc, bl to me if i bought overpriced parts
아이유~
findingthelimit
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong219 Posts
September 03 2012 11:09 GMT
#24463
I'm looking for a h77 motherboard that is reliable and cheap; i've heard good things about the asus / asrock brands but it seems like most of them don't have a really high rating on newegg.. should this be a concern?

also, i really don't know which h77 to get, i'm not installing a sound card, having the need of using more than 3 usbs ports, not overclocking, and not installing a sound card. asus has like 5 different h77s and asrock 4, should i just go for the cheapest one? the one with most eggs?

Also, is mini atx the tiny motherboard that i should avoid, and go for the micro / regular atx? or is it the micro that i have to avoid?

thanks this is my first time building a computer!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 11:55:03
September 03 2012 11:52 GMT
#24464
Pick one that doesn't have tons of repeat errors. For instance, if five reviews complain about defective USB3.0 drivers then chances are that its actually a problem instead of a user specific issue. So use your own discretion.

Asrock budget motherboards are generally more than fine. If you want to blow cash on the gold standard, then Intel is your solution. But I don't see a lot of point doing that.

Edit:
This goes for all reviews, in general. Most people either say that the product is awesome or the product sucks balls. If reviews keep on mentioning very specific issues, like the polycarbonate Macbook cracking over time, then it is an actual problem with the product.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
September 03 2012 14:30 GMT
#24465
I have a GTX 460 and I'm looking to upgrade, what kind of GFX cards would you guys recommend that are going to last a while and are fairly new?
findingthelimit
Profile Joined May 2012
Hong Kong219 Posts
September 03 2012 16:08 GMT
#24466
i will be spending 250-300 usd on a graphics card, should i be looking at nvidia or amd products? i'm currently debating between the 7850, 7870, 7950, and the 660ti. How does the 660ti compare to the 7950? i will not be overclocking.

also, does the 660ti offer significant better performance than the 7850 and 7870? upgrading from 7850 to 7870 is around 40 usd, and upgrading from 7870 to 7950/660ti is around 60usd. i want to keep this graphics card for at least 4 years, probably more. is amd or nvidia more reliable?

from what i've read, it seems like they are equally good, except the amd 7000 series draws significantly less power; is this correct? if so, does drawing less power lengthen the system's lifetime?
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
September 03 2012 16:49 GMT
#24467
On September 04 2012 01:08 findingthelimit wrote:
i will be spending 250-300 usd on a graphics card, should i be looking at nvidia or amd products? i'm currently debating between the 7850, 7870, 7950, and the 660ti. How does the 660ti compare to the 7950? i will not be overclocking.

also, does the 660ti offer significant better performance than the 7850 and 7870? upgrading from 7850 to 7870 is around 40 usd, and upgrading from 7870 to 7950/660ti is around 60usd. i want to keep this graphics card for at least 4 years, probably more. is amd or nvidia more reliable?

from what i've read, it seems like they are equally good, except the amd 7000 series draws significantly less power; is this correct? if so, does drawing less power lengthen the system's lifetime?


With regards to performance, just check reviews and benchmarks that are all over the web to compare different models. Competing models from AMD and Nvidia are often paired up against eachother by different review-sites.

Both brands are reliable and any card should last for a long time. Unless you're unlucky with a poor sample, it will be outdated in terms of performance before it'll break.

Drawing more or less power doesn't have a direct impact on the lifetime of the system. It does impact your electricity bill of course. In addition, a card that draws more power, produces more heat, which means a more elaborate (and noisy) cooling system is required. A card with high power consumption may not have much cooling headroom for heavy overclocking, but this is not relevant for your situation as you don't plan on OCing.
Such flammable little insects!
PoweredbyYogurt
Profile Joined August 2012
United States13 Posts
September 03 2012 17:14 GMT
#24468
I'm looking for a graphics card that is not too expensive, but will give me a good fps at high resolution from medium to high settings. my cpu is an intel i5 3570
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 03 2012 18:56 GMT
#24469
On September 04 2012 02:14 PoweredbyYogurt wrote:
I'm looking for a graphics card that is not too expensive, but will give me a good fps at high resolution from medium to high settings. my cpu is an intel i5 3570


What game?
What budget?
What resolution?
twitch.tv/medrea
PoweredbyYogurt
Profile Joined August 2012
United States13 Posts
September 03 2012 19:00 GMT
#24470
in reply to Medrea (sorry i dont know how to reply)

I will be playing source games, battlefield, and other misc shooters. i dont want to bottleneck so id say around 200-250. and i would like to play on the highest resolution i can.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 03 2012 19:05 GMT
#24471
Highest resolution is not helpful in anyway...

$200-$250 will get you a 7850 or 7870.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 19:14:11
September 03 2012 19:11 GMT
#24472
We don't know what the highest resolution your monitor supports. But yeah. Stretch for the 7870 if you can.
twitch.tv/medrea
xavra41
Profile Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
September 03 2012 23:22 GMT
#24473
The motherboard I bought is actually micro ATX and my case is ATX. Should I return it and get a normal size motherboard? Also how important is RAID when using a SSD and a HDD at the same time (should i get it)?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 03 2012 23:29 GMT
#24474
mATX boards are still of the ATX form factor so an ATX case will accommodate it perfectly fine.

SSD's are on an entirely different level of read speed compared to HDD, 20 times greater in many case. The two technologies are unrelated other than the uses they serve (to store data). If you want speed, spend the extra on the SSD. If you want capacity, use the HDD. If you want both, get both. But the two are separate, we dont conjoin the technologies together.
twitch.tv/medrea
xavra41
Profile Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
September 03 2012 23:32 GMT
#24475
Oh good thanks for the response because I was about to return the motherboard. I am a bit confused about the second part though. I currently own a ssd and a 5400 rpm hdd. Should I connect them with raid?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 23:40:40
September 03 2012 23:36 GMT
#24476
No. Raid is as fast as the slowest drive.

Thus, you would make your fast SSD and everything on it perform the same speed as the HDD.

You would also limit the total space to 2 times the size of the SSD, forfeiting the entire rest of your HDD. Or if mirror, just 1 times.

There are also a bunch of other problems as well, with other raid type configurations.

RAID for the average consumer is no longer necessary. At all. Ever. Gone. You need to have enterprise needs for it. Just connect the drives normally and treat them as separate entities, you are probably going to want to put anything that needs to load fast on the SSD though (particularly the OS and any games you are playing at the time), 5400RPM is slow.
twitch.tv/medrea
Criptich
Profile Joined August 2012
United States8 Posts
September 04 2012 04:45 GMT
#24477
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gvc0

In this build instead of getting a hydro series cooler i was wanting the noctua d14 since i wont be overclocking over 3.8. my only question is, do you think i'd have room for the corsair dominators? I know i'd have room with an h80/h100 but i like this sink.
ggnore
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 05:31:24
September 04 2012 05:25 GMT
#24478
Hm...

NH-D14, $240 motherboard, GTX 690, 1300W high-end power supply, 16GB (in 2x8GB rather than 4x4GB) 1866MHz RAM.

+ no overclock over 3.8GHz.

Mind = blown.

As for dimensions, check the motherboard and see if there is a schematic with measurements of socket area, distances. Here's the Noctua:
http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=faqs&step=2&products_id=34&lng=en

On most motherboards that interferes with just the closest RAM slot, so tall RAM would likely be okay. But why bother even getting RAM like that? Actually, that's my feeling on most of the build.

edit: just noticed, but any particular reason to crosspost at Simple Questions Simple Answers in less than an hour of not getting a response? Maybe just buy some random stuff or multiple RAM kits, since it looks like the prices and functionality don't matter.

Or maybe it's a better idea to spec a boutique system build and get everything done, rather than try to look at parts. You wouldn't need to ask questions, wait on answers, research yourself. There are some nicer options in the $3000 range. You might even get an SSD and not have day-to-day performance being worse than some of the $800 builds here.
Criptich
Profile Joined August 2012
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 05:54:58
September 04 2012 05:53 GMT
#24479
.....
i was really only looking at the nh d14 and mobo as far as room goes if any had ever had problems putting dominator platinums in there. the other things are apart of my actual build i want to do with an h100 and put the 3770k at 4.5. maybe i should have lowered the quality and price of the components to get my question properly answered. but i found out based on height of ram. so thanks i guess..
ggnore
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 06:12:20
September 04 2012 06:09 GMT
#24480
The answer was that the first slot is blocked.

Actually, these are common enough components that you can just search Z77 Sabertooth and NH-D14 and see that only the closest slot is blocked. The fan on the RAM side can be raised up, which would be necessary. You can put tall RAM in slots 2 and 4 (A2 and B2). If you want to double-check, try to find measurements of the motherboard, or judge distances from pictures.

Some coolers may not clear the CPU heatsinks on the other side, but the Noctua is supposed to be barely fine there.
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