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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Silky
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
September 01 2012 06:16 GMT
#24421
Can I stream on medium quality with these specs?

Intel i5 3450 3.1ghz
HD Radeon 6670
4GB DDR3 RAM
530W PSU 80plus certified
Have a good life
colblitz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States41 Posts
September 01 2012 07:54 GMT
#24422
Hey guys, asking for a friend. He wants to do a triple monitor setup - not for the wide angle surround gaming business, just 3 monitors for his desktop, and apparently the GeForce GTS 450 he has right now can't handle it (dunno if that's because he's just not trying hard enough though, iirc the GTS 450 has two DVI and 1 HDMI ports so shouldn't you be able to just hook up 3 monitors and go?). Any recommendations for a card that will be able to? He says budget would be around $100-150.

Also, more generally, do you guys have any recommendations for desktop wallpaper managers in multi-monitor setups? I've been trying to find a good one that can handle portrait/landscape orientations and being able to rotate through different wallpapers without too much luck

Thanks :D
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
September 01 2012 12:59 GMT
#24423
Non-600 series cards can't drive three monitors. Only two. If your desktop has an extra PCIe slot, you can just buy another low end GPU and drive the third monitor from that.
colblitz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States41 Posts
September 01 2012 14:23 GMT
#24424
Ah, I see - is there a similar threshold for 6xxx and 7xxx cards?

Any recommendations for such a low end GPU for a 1920 x 1080 monitor?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#24425
On September 01 2012 15:16 Silky wrote:
Can I stream on medium quality with these specs?

Intel i5 3450 3.1ghz
HD Radeon 6670
4GB DDR3 RAM
530W PSU 80plus certified

Yes, with enough upload speed.


On September 01 2012 23:23 colblitz wrote:
Ah, I see - is there a similar threshold for 6xxx and 7xxx cards?

Any recommendations for such a low end GPU for a 1920 x 1080 monitor?

Since 5xxx series, there was 3 (or more) monitor support.

You can use pretty much whatever as long as you have the slot for it. There are specialty low-end graphics cards (more expensive) with PCI slots, PCIe 1x slots, if you must. HD 5450 is probably okay. If the system is Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge and has support for the integrated graphics, that may also be able to be used.
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
September 01 2012 15:39 GMT
#24426
I don't get it, there are heatsinks for $5 and heatsinks for $100....
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 01 2012 15:49 GMT
#24427
On September 02 2012 00:39 U_G_L_Y wrote:
I don't get it, there are heatsinks for $5 and heatsinks for $100....

Don't get what? What kind of heatsinks?

You know, there are significant differences in heat transfer mechanism, surface area, materials, mounting apparatus, accessories, warranty, etc.

Are you confused that a Core i7-3960x costs a lot more than a Celeron G440?
Uberfetus
Profile Joined April 2012
31 Posts
September 01 2012 15:52 GMT
#24428
My TR2 500w has been working great for the past 6 months. Someone recommended it to me here lol.
U_G_L_Y
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 15:59:33
September 01 2012 15:58 GMT
#24429
They seem like such basic mechanical devices... though now that you mention it, a $1000+ cpu that is marginally better than a $200 cpu is confusing to me...

Seems like a very common opinion is that
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

is kind of the best thing for the money?

So if I am overclocking, will 400 watts no longer cut it?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 16:12:50
September 01 2012 16:00 GMT
#24430
On September 02 2012 00:52 Uberfetus wrote:
My TR2 500w has been working great for the past 6 months. Someone recommended it to me here lol.

Is that a W0379RU (25A and 18A +12V rails), W0093 (14A and 15A +12V rails), or TP-500P (single rail, 80 plus bronze)? All are sold as Thermaltake TR2 500W. Well, it's not like operating a system well under advertised limits for 6 months is an extraordinary feat.


On September 02 2012 00:58 U_G_L_Y wrote:
They seem like such basic mechanical devices... though now that you mention it, a $1000+ cpu that is marginally better than a $200 cpu is confusing to me...

Seems like a very common opinion is that
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

is kind of the best thing for the money?

So if I am overclocking, will 400 watts no longer cut it?

I'm sure that materials and manufacturing costs are far below retailer pricing for the expensive heatsinks (particularly, the materials costs should be relatively low). It's probably more a matter of relatively low volume, pricing for premium products being high because people will still pay those prices.

For CPUs, it's a matter of different products not containing different technology. Intel, AMD, and anyone else designing CPUs (like for specialized servers, smartphones, etc.), spend megabucks on R&D—every couple / few / several years, they put out a new design. Then they create an entire product stack based on this one design. At shorter intervals in the meantime, they tweak it somewhat and then release a new product stack based on that tweak. It's not like different CPUs based on the same design will be much different, other than being released with different numbers of cores, some differences in clock speed. Pricing for premium components again reflects the fact that people will pay for it.

$30 for Hyper 212 Plus is kind of standard, so sure. Get that.

400W is enough for those parts, normal overclocking, unless you run your computer at 100% CPU load, 100% GPU load, 24/7.
CouchWarrior
Profile Joined August 2012
15 Posts
September 01 2012 16:31 GMT
#24431
What are the pros to getting a 7950 over the 660ti? if any at all. the selling point for me would be getting BL2 for free with the EVGA card. Res 1920x1080 Thanks!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 01 2012 17:29 GMT
#24432
7950 offers better performance once overclocked (vs an overclocked GTX 660 Ti) and does better at higher resolutions.
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
September 01 2012 21:14 GMT
#24433
About to go get a new computer. My other one broke again and I've been just replacing parts/fixing it for years. I'm gonna start fresh again.

Budget is around 2 grand, and I already have 2 1 TB HDD's and 1 64 GB SSD that ill bring over. Heading to Microcenter and Frys and hope to be able to finish the build by tonight.

I haven't been paying much attention as of late but the new cool things are GTX 600 series and ivybridge ya? What about a mobo? Liquid cooling is easy now right?

Can anyone just list out a good build - don't have much time !
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 01 2012 22:11 GMT
#24434
Good build for what purpose?

$2k is a gross overkill budget for a tower these days, unless you have some very demanding niche requirements, trying to run some kind of beast multimonitor / 120 Hz gaming setup, a rendering farm workstation, a certain kind of server, or something like that.
CouchWarrior
Profile Joined August 2012
15 Posts
September 01 2012 22:40 GMT
#24435
On September 02 2012 02:29 skyR wrote:
7950 offers better performance once overclocked (vs an overclocked GTX 660 Ti) and does better at higher resolutions.
@skyR What would you personally choose? or what would be the best for the money?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 01 2012 22:53 GMT
#24436
660 Ti since it comes with Borderlands.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-01 23:10:04
September 01 2012 23:09 GMT
#24437
79xx come with three games. I sold mine for more than the cost of Borderlands. My 7970 I mean.
twitch.tv/medrea
Blennd
Profile Joined April 2011
United States266 Posts
September 02 2012 03:54 GMT
#24438
Can someone give me a sense of what kinds of graphics the following system would be able to run sc2 at, considering I don't want to drop below 30 fps in a 200v200 battle?
AMD Phenom Quad Core Processor 3.2GHz
8GB DDR3 RAM
1.5TB 5400RPM Hard Drive
ATI Radeon HD 4200

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 02 2012 04:01 GMT
#24439
Low and you'll drop below 30.
sauman
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 10:15:54
September 02 2012 07:59 GMT
#24440
Ok, so I've updated my build a little bit and I'm still not sure if I can get stuff to suit me for better prices etc.

Antec High Current Gamer 520W Modular HCG-520M - $99.00
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard - $149.00
Gigabyte Radeon HD7850 2GB OC - $255.00
Corsair Carbide 400R Black Mid-Tower Case - $118.00
Intel Core i5 3570K - $235.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler - $36.00
Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 - $59.00
Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 1TB 7200RPM 0F15632 - $89.00

Total: $1040.00

Just to check again, are all the parts compatible? Also as previously stated, if there are parts with better prices that I could replace any recommendations would be nice . I'm looking to order in the next 2-3 days.

Thanks!
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