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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5068 Posts
September 02 2012 10:19 GMT
#24441
I decided to get a Radeon 7950 GPU, but I was curious about power. I have a 600W right now, but will I need more? my processor is a 3.4 ghz phenom II X4, a 990 fx professional series mobo, and some random hard drive (only one). Will 600W be enough?
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
September 02 2012 10:24 GMT
#24442
600W is more than enough as long as it isn't a crappy power supply
HotCookies
Profile Joined January 2011
Greece149 Posts
September 02 2012 11:29 GMT
#24443
I have an 2500k not Oced, z68, 8gb ddr3, 1 hard drive, 2x SSD , 7850 oc edition and a 400w psu :p
xavra41
Profile Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
September 02 2012 12:15 GMT
#24444
My computer broke for the 100th time and now I am deciding to replace most of it. I am buying a new cpu, motherboard, ram, ssd, psu, and case (which is everything except hdd and gpu lol). My main goals for this build is that it lasts a while before becoming completely obsolete. I also want it to last a long time without repairs so I dont want to OC either. I am pretty inexperienced with buying hardware, but I read like a million articles and tried my best. I have been up all night and now its 5 am but, i cannot go to sleep until I have your seal of approval skyR!

I am going to budget comp around 500$ I play sc2, path of exile, do some programming with eclipse and mathematica.
Here are the items I picked out so far and everyone feel free to give your input
cpu
ssd
ram
motherboard
power supply
case

total is 474$ before tax. I went a lil crazy on cpu haha If you can find a better match that is cheaper I will definitely take a look ( sc2 custom games can be brutal on cpu so that's why i opted to go a lil high). I don't know much about PSUs and motherboards so I might need some help there. I think everything is compatible but I am sleep deprived so I may have messed up.

Thanks for reading and I hope maybe sometime soon I can see what a modern cpu runs like
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 02 2012 15:56 GMT
#24445
Less expensive and better: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&promoid=1084

Less expensive and better: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=33357&promoid=1371
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
September 02 2012 16:03 GMT
#24446
Hey guys
im about to get a new pc and wanted to ask u if someone could get me an overall preview on how a pc for around 500€ (euro) could look like, should i get intel or amd in this price region?
its mostly for just playing older not that grafic intense games.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
September 02 2012 16:07 GMT
#24447
Rosewill RV350 is actually not really bad, just not intended for computers since the turn of the century. It's one of the rare power supplies you can find these days that is designed for high draw on +5V / +3.3V rather than +12V. (You definitely want the Corsair CX400 instead.)


On an unrelated note—or maybe not that unrelated—desktop Ivy Bridge Core i3 and a Pentium model are available now.
xavra41
Profile Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
September 02 2012 21:05 GMT
#24448
Thanks for the tips! I am guessing the ram is better because of the lower voltage? I'll definitely get the new PSU I was reading stuff about voltages but it was really confusing. As for the ivy bridge i3s I googled it and I think i read that it is only for the laptop models?

I think I am ready. I was kinda expecting you guys to completely change everything haha, but I guess I didn't do too bad of a job. Thanks so much I feel like I owe you something.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 02 2012 21:18 GMT
#24449
You are looking for i3-3220. Thats the desktop Ivy Bridge I3.

As for the ram, they are like processors too in that the less voltage required to run it, the better it is. It also generally means you have more headroom available as well.
twitch.tv/medrea
xavra41
Profile Joined January 2012
United States220 Posts
September 02 2012 23:55 GMT
#24450
Oh, I found it. I remember seeing them on newegg but I didn't look into them more because there weren't any reviews. I can't find any comparisons between any i3 ivy bridge and the 3570. It is 70 dollars cheaper, which is nice, but I dunno if I want to take a risk.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 00:09:10
September 03 2012 00:06 GMT
#24451
On September 03 2012 08:55 xavra41 wrote:
Oh, I found it. I remember seeing them on newegg but I didn't look into them more because there weren't any reviews. I can't find any comparisons between any i3 ivy bridge and the 3570. It is 70 dollars cheaper, which is nice, but I dunno if I want to take a risk.


Its not a risk. Its a i3-2120 die shrunk into 22nm. It will have the same 10% performance increase and will use less energy.

Also it sucks to be AMD even more now. The FX-4100 was competitive at $120 (depending on what you do) but now with the ivy bridge i3 AMD is just back to being good for only laptops.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 03 2012 00:09 GMT
#24452
i3 and i5 are non comparable, the i5's have double the cores, while the i3 compensates with hyperthreading which is not as good since it doesnt help gaming.
twitch.tv/medrea
scanders
Profile Joined March 2011
20 Posts
September 03 2012 02:00 GMT
#24453
K new to this, im sure there is a million of these but im looking to buy a computer. Pieced one out at around the price that I want. I stream, play sc, skype and have multiple monitors. These are the parts I have decided upon and I'm just wondering if they are good for what I need and so on. If anyone has some suggestions for either cheaper parts that do the same thing or more expensive ones that are way better or something along those lines would love to hear!

case - Zalman z9 plus case w/fan controller
processor - AMD fx-4100 processor 3.6 ghz w/ 12 mb cache
motherboard - Asus M5A97 w/ Dual DDR3 1866 7.1 Audio, gigabyte lan. crossfire x
memory - G.Skill Ares series 8GB PC3-12800 Dual Channel Kit, Orange (2x4 GB)
Harddrive - Corsair force series 3 solid state drive sata III, 120 GB
Video Card - Gigabyte GV-N56GOC - 1gi Geforce GTX 560 OC 1gb PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort
Power Supply - OCZ ModXStream Pro 700w SLI Ready Power Supply

That comes to about 650 Canadian fluctuating say 100 bucks one way or the other if anyone sees something that could be better please let me know
much appreciated!!
Thanks guys


skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 03 2012 02:13 GMT
#24454
Where are you buying this from...

If you want suggestions for less expensive parts than maybe you should list the price of the components? -.-

But onto the build.. it's terrible.

Such a low-end build does not need a 700w power supply. The OCZ ModXStream Pro isn't even a good purchase, assuming you are purchasing it for $79...

The majority of GTX 560 only supports two monitors so a shitty card to pick for multi monitor support. I'm pretty sure none of Gigabyte's GTX 560 has displayport as well...

Overpaying for G.Skill Ares.. most likely, 99% likely.

For such a low budget, get a less expensive case. Ditch the SSD and get a CPU worth a damn.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 03 2012 02:16 GMT
#24455
AMD CPU is bad for video games. And most other things as well.
twitch.tv/medrea
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 03 2012 02:24 GMT
#24456
@scanders
Do yourself a favor and fill out (in detail) the questionaire in the OP. You'll get a near-perfect build for your budget, 'cause the guys here are just that awesome.

P.S. It'll get better performance than your current ideas.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
scanders
Profile Joined March 2011
20 Posts
September 03 2012 02:26 GMT
#24457
Sorry guys should have put up prices that was stupid heres a repost with the prices of everything. Apparently this one sucks haah so some suggestions of different parts would be awesome!

$50 - case - Zalman z9 plus case w/fan controller
$110 - processor - AMD fx-4100 processor 3.6 ghz w/ 12 mb cache
$95 - motherboard - Asus M5A97 w/ Dual DDR3 1866 7.1 Audio, gigabyte lan. crossfire x
$45 - memory - G.Skill Ares series 8GB PC3-12800 Dual Channel Kit, Orange (2x4 GB)
$110 - Harddrive - Corsair force series 3 solid state drive sata III, 120 GB
$140 - Video Card - Gigabyte GV-N56GOC - 1gi Geforce GTX 560 OC 1gb PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort
$85 - Power Supply - OCZ ModXStream Pro 700w SLI Ready Power Supply

K thats all the prices. I'm getting it from memory express so this is just straight off their system configurator on their website.

skyr would Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2 GB Video card be better for what I want? I legit know nothing about computers haah so thats why i'm asking thanks for the help its much appreciated!
scanders
Profile Joined March 2011
20 Posts
September 03 2012 02:28 GMT
#24458
@misterFred where do I find that questionaire? That sounds like it would be a good thing to fill out.
Tamburlaine
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
September 03 2012 02:33 GMT
#24459
Questionaire's in the first post. Open the first spoiler.
I like things.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 03 2012 02:55 GMT
#24460
Get G.Skill Ripjaws or a similar kit for $40 or less.

Get a Samsung 830 which should be same price as Corsair Force 3.

GTX 560 for $140 is good.

Get a Corsair CX400 / CX430 or Antec Neo Eco 450C for $40 or less.

Get a less expensive case, eg. Bitfenix Merc Alpha for around $35.

Switch to a core i5 and a B75 / H77 board.
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