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On August 31 2012 09:19 wajd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 09:16 skyR wrote:On August 31 2012 09:02 wajd wrote:
Hope this is the right thread for me to ask this.
I plan on buying a desktop, but I don't want anything fancy. I'm thinking even a used one I could wipe would be fine.
What are the absolute bare minimum specs I should at least have to assure top performance for SC2, especially after the latest patch that caused all the problems. And not to mention for HOTS, but I know the requirements for that are unknown.
Any tips would be great! Thanks. An oxymoron? lol. If you want top performance in Starcraft II than get a 2500k or 3570k along with the appropriate card for your resolution. If you want the bare minimum than get a Pentium. Sorry I didn't mean I wanted to play the game on super high graphic settings or anything. Just what I need to play on the low settings, without lagging and stuttering gameplay.
Then SkyR's advice still stands. StarCraft 2 gets low FPS when the processor gets overwhelmed by large numbers of units late game - graphics quality/card is pretty much irrelevant. If you want top performance in SC2, you need an overclockable processor. If just you want decent performance you can go with the modern Pentium g-series.
Exactly what SkyR said.
Note that performance is affected by #s of units - so if you just want 1v1s & 2v2s and not larger team games (no streaming), the Pentium will do you fine. If you play nothing but 4v4s all day, you probably want the overclockable i5.
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hi again, thought it would be easier to give this a go rather than to post up builds with slight changes over and over for review. thanks for any replies.
What is your budget?
1k - 1.2k
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
gaming main priority - some music and movies
What is your upgrade cycle?
1-2 years
When do you plan on building it?
With-in the next 2 weeks
Do you plan on overclocking?
No plans to overclock
Do you need an OS?
I have a CD of windows 7 from my laptop but im not sure if it can be used again? If not chose without the OS anyway.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
There is a good chance
Where are you buying your parts from?
http://www.msy.com.au/Parts/PARTS.pdf
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I had a question about upgrading my GPU... I need to know a good card.
budget
$200ish
resolution
1920x 1080 (subject to change? Good sales may be coming up and the monitor cost is not part of the $200)
use?
gaming. Not just sc, I want to be able to play FPS games as well.
upgrade cycle
hmmmm... a couple years? (more than 1)
when?
these are just some parts I am buying. I would like them soon. Labor day in the U.S. is coming up so i hope for some sales then.
I am not interested in over clocking.\\
I have been looking at the GTX 560 Ti, Radeon 7850, or something similar. I have a Phenom II X4 965(Something close to that) at 3.4 ghz. and a 990 FX professional series motherboard (got that for a steal at the time). PSU is 600W (could go bigger, just bought it).
Which card is the best vs the amount of time it will last? Thanks.
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7850 and 7870 are the best cards in the $200 range.
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Hi im there if u can tell me if its gonna change ALOT my fps at starcraft2 so if u can compared those 2 computer
The one i got at the moment i get 180fps at ''worker split'' but dropping to 30-60 late game sometime cant micro :
graphic card : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 850Mhz 1G
CPU : AMD Phenom II X3 720 clocked at 2.80 GH
RAM : 4G
Motherboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A78 PLUS Rev X.0x
Chipset : Northbridge : AMD 770 - South bridge SB700 (idk if its important o.O)
AND THE ALIENWAR I WANNA BUY :
3rd Gen Processor Intel ® Core ™ i7-3770 (3.4GHz, 8MB Cache, w / Hyper-Threading and Turbo Boost 2.0)
Operating System Windows ® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, French
Memory3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600 MHz 8 Go4
Hard Drive 1TB SATA 6Gb / s, 32 MB Cache, 7200 RPM
GDDR5 Video Card NVIDIA ® GeForce ® GTX 555 1 GB
Sorry for the AlienWar description i used translation cause its actually taking an hour to translate that
but ya please if u dont know and/or u dont play starcraft2 dont answer me
Thank you
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So I'm looking to build a computer for roughly $1000 and I have no clue what is good or bad. The most demanding game this computer will need to run is probably BF3 and I wouldn't mind being able to stream.
I have got this so far and it is probably really bad, for example I have no idea what motherboard I need and if that case/power supply are any good. If there is anything I can get that meets my needs but is cheaper, that would be great if you guys could recommend it to me.
edit: there is also probably stuff I have left out, just let me know please 
Build
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Can't see private wish lists.
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On August 31 2012 15:57 skyR wrote:
Can't see private wish lists.
hmm, says it's public. let me check
I'll just post the parts:
ASUS GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II Overclocked 1GB - $259.00
Corsair Carbide 400R Black Mid-Tower Case - $118.00
Antec High Current Gamer 750W Power Supply HCG-750 - $135.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler - $36
Intel Core i5 3570K - $235.00
Corsair Vengeance CML8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 - $59.00
ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M Motherboard - $119.00
Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 1TB 7200RPM 0F15632 - $89.00
Total: $1050.00
As I said, none of this has to stay as I have no idea what I'm doing. So I'm not even sure if these parts are compatable or optimal at all.
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That power supply is overkill, a good quality 500W model will easily power that setup.
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On August 31 2012 15:43 sC wrote:
Hi im there if u can tell me if its gonna change ALOT my fps at starcraft2 so if u can compared those 2 computer
The one i got at the moment i get 180fps at ''worker split'' but dropping to 30-60 late game sometime cant micro :
graphic card : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 850Mhz 1G
CPU : AMD Phenom II X3 720 clocked at 2.80 GH
RAM : 4G
Motherboard : ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A78 PLUS Rev X.0x
Chipset : Northbridge : AMD 770 - South bridge SB700 (idk if its important o.O)
AND THE ALIENWAR I WANNA BUY :
3rd Gen Processor Intel ® Core ™ i7-3770 (3.4GHz, 8MB Cache, w / Hyper-Threading and Turbo Boost 2.0)
Operating System Windows ® 7 Home Premium, 64bit, French
Memory3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600 MHz 8 Go4
Hard Drive 1TB SATA 6Gb / s, 32 MB Cache, 7200 RPM
GDDR5 Video Card NVIDIA ® GeForce ® GTX 555 1 GB
Sorry for the AlienWar description i used translation cause its actually taking an hour to translate that
but ya please if u dont know and/or u dont play starcraft2 dont answer me
Thank you
You can spend a car loan on that alienware or you can buy the parts you need to upgrade yourself.
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CAN SOME1 RESPONSE ME PROPERLY LIKE SOMEONE TALKING ON A FORUM...IM DONE WRITING SOME FUCKING THREAD AND LISTENNING TO PEOPLE TELLING ME HIS LIFE
User was temp banned for this post.
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On August 31 2012 16:27 sC wrote:
CAN SOME1 RESPONSE ME PROPERLY LIKE SOMEONE TALKING ON A FORUM...IM DONE WRITING SOME FUCKING THREAD AND LISTENNING TO PEOPLE TELLING ME HIS LIFE
calm down there buddy
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any suggestions for my previous query? thanks again
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On August 31 2012 17:09 iKill[ShocK] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 16:27 sC wrote:
CAN SOME1 RESPONSE ME PROPERLY LIKE SOMEONE TALKING ON A FORUM...IM DONE WRITING SOME FUCKING THREAD AND LISTENNING TO PEOPLE TELLING ME HIS LIFE calm down there buddy
Rofl. For some reason your placid response just made the above hillarious [to me].
On August 31 2012 21:58 ToREcho[5] wrote:
any suggestions for my previous query? thanks again
Ok, give me couple of minutes.
$214 - i5 3570
$75 - Asus P8B75-M (this doesn't support crossfire as an fyi)
$349 - Gigabyte 7950 (or 7850 for cheaper for slightly lower settings, higher cards are overpriced here imo)
$43 - 2x4GB 1333mHz memory kit
$66 - Antec Neo Eco 520 (Not strong enough for crossfire)
$19 - SATA Samsung DVD drive
$86 - 1GB WD Blue HDD
$102 - 120GB Intel-330 SDD (optional, but very nice)
Cases are shit there apparently (no really they are).
Total is $954 + case. Money can be saved on gpu + ssd if required. Also, crossfire is painful, as it requires a more expensive (and preferably bigger motherboard), more expensive power supply, and is a hassle to set up + keep temps low on. Plus it's loud, and games take a while to get scaling. It's generally easier to get a nice card now, and throw a new one in in a few years if you so desire (better than adding in another obsolete one).
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On August 31 2012 16:17 Rannasha wrote:
That power supply is overkill, a good quality 500W model will easily power that setup.
Could you reccomend me a good quality 500W model? Also do you know if my other parts are compatible/optimal?
Thanks
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On August 31 2012 16:27 sC wrote:
CAN SOME1 RESPONSE ME PROPERLY LIKE SOMEONE TALKING ON A FORUM...IM DONE WRITING SOME FUCKING THREAD AND LISTENNING TO PEOPLE TELLING ME HIS LIFE
In case you're reading this forum still, the alienware is hilariously expensive for what you're getting and isn't an all around upgrade either. The GPU is a little weaker than your current 560, while the CPU is much better, it's not worth the cost for a half-upgrade. It will run SC2 better, yes. If that's the answer you're looking for then it will run fairly well. Definitely not worth the price since you could spend $300 in parts to upgrade your current system, and run better than that alienware.
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On August 31 2012 22:40 sauman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 16:17 Rannasha wrote:
That power supply is overkill, a good quality 500W model will easily power that setup. Could you reccomend me a good quality 500W model? Also do you know if my other parts are compatible/optimal? Thanks
Corsair Builder CX500 is an example. There are plenty others, just read through a couple recent pages of this thread to see what was recommended.
edit: The parts are compatible and will make a computer that is fairly well-balanced, but shifted towards additional CPU performance over GPU performance, which is what is great for SC2 (and streaming). Whether that's optimal depends on your needs of course.
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thanks rollin thats perfect ill check if i can get that card cheaper elsewhere and grab that build. thanks again.
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On August 31 2012 22:40 sauman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 16:17 Rannasha wrote:
That power supply is overkill, a good quality 500W model will easily power that setup. Could you reccomend me a good quality 500W model? Also do you know if my other parts are compatible/optimal? Thanks
Your case is very expensive, your graphics card is overpriced (I got my 560ti for $210 here in Aus a year ago), and beaten by the similarly priced 7850.
PSU lines in that wattage that come to mind are the capstone 450, antec neo eco 450/520, antec vp 450/550, antec high current gamer ~500 (idk models)... There are other decent options, but these are the ones I'm familiar with. Corsair builder series too I guess, but they can have noise issues.
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Antec VP450 is on the lowest end of anything recommendable, worse than VP350 and VP550, worse than the Neo Eco / High Current Gamer / Earthwatts / Corsair CX / Rosewill Green / whatever. In AUS, Neo Eco tends to be priced relatively good. You just don't get a power cord and have to use whatever old one anybody has lying around.
For cases at MSY, Antec 100 for $62...? I don't really see much else other than those lower-end Antec models.
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