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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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Womwomwom
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Battlehammer
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What is your budget? $1,000-$1,500. I also need a case.  What is your resolution? 1920x1200 What are you using it for? Gaming, video encoding, programming, and some streaming. What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years. When do you plan on building it? In a few weeks - month. Do you plan on overclocking? Yes. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not currently, but I wouldn't mind having the option to do so. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On September 06 2012 14:31 Battlehammer wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I need a build! What is your budget? $1,000-$1,500. I also need a case. What is your resolution? 1920x1200 What are you using it for? Gaming, video encoding, programming, and some streaming. What is your upgrade cycle? 3-4 years. When do you plan on building it? In a few weeks - month. Do you plan on overclocking? Yes. Do you need an Operating System? No. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not currently, but I wouldn't mind having the option to do so. Where are you buying your parts from? Newegg. I'm guessing you want all the bells and whistles... i7-3770K & MSI GTX N660Ti $619.98 ($10 Mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1050221 ASRock Z77 Extreme3 ATX & Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600 1.5v $157.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1061098 Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $34.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 OCZ Agility 4 128GB SATA III SSD $99.99 ($10 Mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227807 Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case & Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM SATA III $144.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1064926 Rosewill Capstone 450 80+ Gold $59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 DVD Burner $16.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 Total: $1134.90 ($20 in Mail in rebates) If you want to keep the option for SLI/CF then the 650 version of the Rosewill Capstone is what you want. | ||
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Rkuro
United States43 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On September 07 2012 07:13 Rkuro wrote: quick question, will a 7850 bottleneck an unclocked core i5 3570k? Your question is meaningless without telling us the software you are trying to run. | ||
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PrinceVegeta
United States118 Posts
Type Item Price CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor $229.99 @ Amazon CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler $32.30 @ NCIX US Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $134.99 @ Amazon Memory Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory $44.99 @ Newegg Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.99 @ Newegg Video Card Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card $205.98 @ Newegg Case Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case $49.49 @ SuperBiiz Power Supply Corsair 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply $49.99 @ Newegg Optical Drive Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer $16.98 @ Outlet PC Total. $854.70 | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
What is your budget? 650-800$, it doesn't have to be a mega awesome gaming rig, but she does play some games like civ 4 so it should be able to run some of the more modern games on medium settings What is your resolution? 1680×1050 What are you using it for? "Casual" gaming, lots and lots of graphics editing now that she's discovered photoshop. What is your upgrade cycle? 2+ years, maybe more. When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? Nope! Do you need an Operating System? Nope Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not here Where are you buying your parts from? I have a nearby microcenter + the internet! Thanks ahead of time for the help! | ||
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DKR
United Kingdom622 Posts
I'm looking to spend a maximum of 200 on a CPU. I have an AM2+ socket mobo but will buy a mobo + intel if it's within the bracket. The CPU will be for SC2 + streaming primarily so multicore is not the issue, more the speed/hyperthreading. (bare in mind UK shipping ^^) | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On September 07 2012 09:54 DKR wrote: The CPU list seems outdated/innaccurate for current prices (especially in the UK) the Phenom II X6 1090T is over 200 pounds so it being in the 150-200 $ list seems pretty crazy, equally the 955 Phenom is sub 100 pounds again. I'm looking to spend a maximum of 200 on a CPU. I have an AM2+ socket mobo but will buy a mobo + intel if it's within the bracket. The CPU will be for SC2 + streaming primarily so multicore is not the issue, more the speed/hyperthreading. (bare in mind UK shipping ^^) You have a problem, in that your budget (I'm extrapolating) does not match your desired performance. SC2 takes 2 fast cores - this means Intel, overclocked if possible, if you want reliably smooth play (particularly for team games - the issue is lots of units on screen). Streaming places more demand on the CPU, spread across several cores. This often impacts SC2 performance. You basically have only a few options (in order of performance & cost - less to more): Option 1: Phenom II x6 (overclocked) - the option if you can't afford any of the others and your motherboard can handle overclocking. Note, you'll probably need an aftermarket cooler for this option as well (noise). AMD's slower per-core performance isn't as good as Intel, but they're cheaper. You should be able to stream fine - the issue will be late-game performance, particularly if you're aiming for a high-quality stream. (P.S. In all this I'm assuming you have good internet for streaming). Option 2: a non-overclocked i5, paired with a cheap B75 or H77 motherboard (i5-3450, 3470, 3550, 3570). You should be able to stream on medium setting pretty smoothly here, though of course there is the caveat that no modern CPU is going to have zero hiccups streaming late-game SC2. Option 3: an overclocked i5, paired with a cheap z77 motherboard (i5-3570k). You'll also need a heatsink. This should let you stream on high settings while maintaining good framerate late game. Option 4: an overclocked i7, paired with a cheap z77 motherboard (i7-3770k). A little better than the above, because it has hyperthreading in addition to the i5's 4 cores. | ||
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aBstractx
United States287 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Rkuro
United States43 Posts
On September 07 2012 07:26 MisterFred wrote: Your question is meaningless without telling us the software you are trying to run. my mistake, gaming (gw2, sc2, darksiders 2 etc) on high settings, resolution 1280x1024, asrock z77 pro 3 chipset mobo | ||
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Wartortle
Australia504 Posts
I tested it playing GW2 around high settings, at default settings on the card I was getting about 110 fps, but after I pushed all the sliders up it dropped to about 50-80 fps and the screen went black every minute or so. I reset it to factory default and it was fine. Any advice as to why this happened and what I could do to correct it? | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On September 07 2012 11:51 Rkuro wrote: my mistake, gaming (gw2, sc2, darksiders 2 etc) on high settings, resolution 1280x1024, asrock z77 pro 3 chipset mobo Ok... to start with, the i5-3570k is basically the best gaming CPU available and the 7850 is a good upper-mid graphics card. And your monitor is tiny. So you should be able to run pretty much everything at the best possible settings... it's just not that hard to power a 1280x1024 resolution. If you at some point switch to 1920x1080 (or larger), then you'd be looking at roughly: SC2: Any gaming graphics card can run it on max, but SC2 has outrageously high per-core requirements. So SC2 will be CPU-limited, even though you've basically got the best CPU for it. Guild Wars 2: A decent quad-core is the most important, followed by a decent video card. So first, any i5, then whatever gpu you can afford. For you, Guild Wars 2 will be GPU-limited, but not by much. Dunno darksiders 2. Most games are GPU-limited, meaning what processor you have doesn't matter much, but the GPU does matter a lot. But it seems your top two games are the other way around. Remember though, that you have a tiny monitor resolution, so an i5-3570k and a 7850 is going to run pretty much any game easily. | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On September 07 2012 08:51 GMarshal wrote:+ Show Spoiler + hey, I'm building a desktop for my sister, and since this thread helped me with mine, I thought I might as well ask you guys again. What is your budget? 650-800$, it doesn't have to be a mega awesome gaming rig, but she does play some games like civ 4 so it should be able to run some of the more modern games on medium settings What is your resolution? 1680×1050 What are you using it for? "Casual" gaming, lots and lots of graphics editing now that she's discovered photoshop. What is your upgrade cycle? 2+ years, maybe more. When do you plan on building it? ASAP Do you plan on overclocking? Nope! Do you need an Operating System? Nope Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? Not here Where are you buying your parts from? I have a nearby microcenter + the internet! Thanks ahead of time for the help! i3-3220 from Microcenter $109.99 It doesn't say instore pickup only but I'm guessing you can http://www.microcenter.com/product/398007/330GHz_LGA_1155_Core_i3-3220_Processor ASRock H77M & Crucial 8GB DDR3-1600 1.5v $102.98 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1061801 SAPPHIRE HD7750 $109.99 ($10 Mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102969 Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200rpm SATA III $79.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840 Fractal Design Core 1000 mATX Case $ 39.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352009 Rosewill Capstone 450 $59.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066 DVD Burner $ 16.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 Total: $519.92 The graphics card is on the 'lite' side, if you deem the graphics front is not enough you can switch it for an HD7770 or HD6850 for ~$120 or ~$135 respectively. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On September 07 2012 11:53 Wartortle wrote: I was wondering if anyone could help me understand an issue I had last night. I have a radeon 6850 and i thought I would try some novice overclocking. I started just by using AMD Overdrive and pushing all the sliders up to max, I have seen that the software is fairly tame so this shouldnt really do to much. I tested it playing GW2 around high settings, at default settings on the card I was getting about 110 fps, but after I pushed all the sliders up it dropped to about 50-80 fps and the screen went black every minute or so. I reset it to factory default and it was fine. Any advice as to why this happened and what I could do to correct it? Could be a lot of things. Temperature. Your psu (since oc'ing it all the way like that could lead to higher voltages). Could just be the card. I know when I max out both of my 6850's my comp crashes after 10 minutes. Try sliding them up in small increments. Also use MSI afterburner to oc them instead of the normal software. I don't know what exact cards you have but i hav emy core clock at 850 and my memory at 1050. Seeing a good increase in fps in gw2 with no crashing or super huge temp jumps. | ||
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Wartortle
Australia504 Posts
On September 07 2012 13:06 Infernal_dream wrote: Could be a lot of things. Temperature. Your psu (since oc'ing it all the way like that could lead to higher voltages). Could just be the card. I know when I max out both of my 6850's my comp crashes after 10 minutes. Try sliding them up in small increments. Also use MSI afterburner to oc them instead of the normal software. I don't know what exact cards you have but i hav emy core clock at 850 and my memory at 1050. Seeing a good increase in fps in gw2 with no crashing or super huge temp jumps. ok thanks, i shouldve added more detail. The temp went up but only to like 70C so still seemed ok. I have the gigabyte factory OC one. ill give MSI afterburner a go then and see how that goes. should I do one slider at a time or both together? | ||
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Rkuro
United States43 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:02 MisterFred wrote: Ok... to start with, the i5-3570k is basically the best gaming CPU available and the 7850 is a good upper-mid graphics card. And your monitor is tiny. So you should be able to run pretty much everything at the best possible settings... it's just not that hard to power a 1280x1024 resolution. If you at some point switch to 1920x1080 (or larger), then you'd be looking at roughly: SC2: Any gaming graphics card can run it on max, but SC2 has outrageously high per-core requirements. So SC2 will be CPU-limited, even though you've basically got the best CPU for it. Guild Wars 2: A decent quad-core is the most important, followed by a decent video card. So first, any i5, then whatever gpu you can afford. For you, Guild Wars 2 will be GPU-limited, but not by much. Dunno darksiders 2. Most games are GPU-limited, meaning what processor you have doesn't matter much, but the GPU does matter a lot. But it seems your top two games are the other way around. Remember though, that you have a tiny monitor resolution, so an i5-3570k and a 7850 is going to run pretty much any game easily. Thanks, you guys should get payed for this, i would definitely donate, i would be piss lost without this thread. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On September 07 2012 13:11 Wartortle wrote: ok thanks, i shouldve added more detail. The temp went up but only to like 70C so still seemed ok. I have the gigabyte factory OC one. ill give MSI afterburner a go then and see how that goes. should I do one slider at a time or both together? One at a time. Start with the core clock. That'll give you a better increase than memory anyways. | ||
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