EPT@Iron Gecko, Never heard of an I3 quadcore. If you are looking at buying a computer, answer the questions in the OP and someone will give you a list of parts which should be close to optimal.
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
@Iron Gecko, Never heard of an I3 quadcore. If you are looking at buying a computer, answer the questions in the OP and someone will give you a list of parts which should be close to optimal. | ||
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fOrTT
United States123 Posts
Currently looking to build one on http://www.ibuypower.com but suggestions for cheaper/better sites would be great. I'm no genius at building desktops and am totally NOT going to build this on my own. My current price range is ~$800-$1000, but am willing to put in a extra couple hundred if its worth it if you can please specify why. I don't use my computer for anything too extreme. I very rarely do video editting for fun, but it's very simple and don't need anything special for it. I'm building my tower mostly for gaming and efficiency. The games I play really just include SC2, WoW, CS:GO, & Dota2, but probably only because I've never really had a computer that could handle the high gfx games like Skyrim or anything like that, but would play them if I had the computer to. I also plan on eventually using my desktop as a small home theatre for my bedroom. I'm also thinking about maybe streaming for fun. I do not plan on upgrading for another ~3 years. So far, this is what I KNOW I will be including in my tower: RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module (Do I need 8gb? or is 4gb okay? It's only for $43 more) Primary hard drive: 120 GB ADATA S510 SSD Data hard drive: 2 TB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200rpm, 6.0Gb/s Optical drive: who cares Sound card: going with whatever the motherboard comes with for now, as I don't care for sound quality much (until I plan to buy some nice speakers) Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-3570 Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache), but open to opinions, this just seemed like the best price/speed What I have no idea what to get: Gfx card Motherboard (must have wifi) Case (mid-sized, need something with decent/great ventilation), I'm gonna pretty much let you guys pick this for me and I'll buy it as long as it looks cool lol Liquid CPU processor cooling or regular? Monitor & Speakers: this is something I do not care for much atm but will consider much more later, so any input will be great. Power supply (I just know it has to be at least 550 watts... is the 80 PLUS certified power supplies really worth it?) My biggest worry is overheating, as this happens ALL the time with my laptop. My noob questions: With what I've listed above for what I expect to use my desktop for, is the price of a Crossife/SLI setup (including the price of the applicable motherboard, power supply, etc.) worth it? How significant is a liquid processor cooling system? (I won't be installing it cause I heard it's a bitch) Is a sound reduction system worth it? I don't mind a mild humming noise at all, but will the computer make so much noise that I would need one? To overclock or not? Any other input would be great as I am pretty clueless. Or in summary if you don't feel like reading, how would you build your desktop if you could blow ~$1000? Thanks. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Not sure what you mean by if the 80PLUS power supplies are worth it or not since every modern good power supply will be 80PLUS certified. A single GPU configuration does not need to be at least 550w. Overheating is not an issue with desktops unless you don't mount the heatsink correctly or just be an idiot in general. SLI / CrossfireX is not worth it unless you are planning to play at a resolution above 1920x1200 and play at absolute max / near max settings for every recent game. You can get a USB or PCI / PCI-E wifi card, it doesn't have to be built into the motherboard. Why the ADATA S510? It's a second generation Sandforce that uses asynchronous NAND, not many people would recommend this kind of SSD. A Crucial M4, Samsung 830, Intel 520, Plextor M3, etc would be better choices. If you want to get 8GB of memory, get 4gb modules (2x4gb) instead of 2gb modules (4x2gb). | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
On August 02 2012 07:09 fOrTT wrote: Power supply (I just know it has to be at least 550 watts... is the 80 PLUS certified power supplies really worth it? Oh god I swear he's looking at some 700w Diablotek non 80 plus on newegg in order to ask this question. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 02 2012 09:11 Shauni wrote: Oh god I swear he's looking at some 700w Diablotek non 80 plus on newegg in order to ask this question. It could be... well, not worse, but similarly terrible, with like Apevia or some such shit. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The default iBuyPower options give you some unknown junker, and in many of the configurators, the cheapest upgrade to something known is like $70 extra for a Corsair TX650 V2 (but in others, Corsair CX V2 options are available). x_x I was just looking at it a few days ago for somebody else's build. You can crosscheck prices, but last time I looked, if you constrained yourself to getting some power supply that's not going to blow up, the best price for prebuilts was at AVADirect. http://www.avadirect.com/desktop-pc-configurator.asp?PRID=24481 Select Zalman Z9 XFX Proseries 550W AsRock H77M Intel i5-3470 + Show Spoiler + if you desperately want the extra 200 MHz, knock yourself out and grab the i5-3570 for $24 more Crucial 2 x 4GB Ballistix Sport PC3-12800 + Show Spoiler + if the dumb heatsinks on the Ripjaws are just too sexy, they're $6 more if you want that instead Gigabyte GV-R685OC-1GD + Show Spoiler + you can get a 7850 or something better than a 6850 here if you want, but be careful of pricing; be warned that this HD 6850 is not overpriced that much, while almost every other option is Intel 120GB 330 Series SSD + Show Spoiler + don't even argue this please Seagate 2GB Barracuda Sata 6Gbps 7200rpm, 64MB cache Sony AD-7280S (DVD burner) That's a touch above $900, but you'll go over $1000 if you need Windows. Add a USB wireless adapter to that. What's your idea of a mild humming noise? | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
1) Purchased parts recommended by respected people like Myrmidon, Jinglehell, Shauni & SkyR from a place like the Computer Build Resource Thread (just picked the 4 posters above, sorry other experts!) 2) Can read with a 6th grade proficiency or better. 3) Possesses two functioning hands and a screwdriver. 4) Possesses ordinary functioning intelligence. 5) Has a few hours of time. Children under the age of 14 should also have adult supervision. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
The mental skills are negligible since we are taught how to insert part A into socket B since before we were born since thats exactly how we WERE born. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On August 02 2012 12:16 Womwomwom wrote: The only confusing thing is hooking the front panel to the motherboard. Why haven't they standardized it yet? No idea. I assume they get together each year for a conference to make sure nobody fucks up. Next you're going to suggest something batshit like better regulation on PSUs, like not being allowed to use model numbers that sound deceptively like a wattage rating. | ||
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Medrea
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Bloomfielda
Canada43 Posts
I am looking to build a nice HTPC. My current one is about 4 years old, and I am looking for the next one to last the same. My knowledge of computer parts isnt what it was (career casualty), I don't have a hard budget, but I don't need it to be bullet proof, I just want it to be able to handle 1080p out (even though my receiver helps up-convert the feed), as well as HD streaming. I figure I will want a 60gb SSD to install the OS and programs on, and use a few of my 1.5tb hdd's for media storage. I have some things nailed down, like the case, but I don't know what is good to buy as far as; -Ram - GSkill - (how much? 16gb DDR3 enough?) -Motherboard - No clue -Power supply -CPU (prefer Intel) -SSD (Brand, I know Intel is good, but how is Corsair? is 60gb enough for OS and programs to run HTPC) -Video Card (Prefer NVidia, need HDMI out) - Sound Card (is it needed with a good video card with HDMI out?) Thanks for your help, I don't want it to be minimum parts, but I would like good value, im not against spending more on something that would make a noticeable improvement. | ||
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Scorevath
United States43 Posts
On August 01 2012 23:06 Scorevath wrote: + Show Spoiler + Hello again TL, So I'm about ready to buy all the parts for my build. The purpose of this computer is solely for streaming SC2 on low settings at 1920x1080 at atleast 720p. After alot of research and help from people in this thread this is what I've settled on. Core i5-3570k - $190 from Microcenter http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0388577 ASRock Z75 Pro3 - $85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157304&Tpk=Z75 Pro3 Pareema 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM - $41 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576011 Liteon CD / DVD burner - $16 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244 Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB - $70 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0375679 BitFenix Merc Alpha - $35 http://us.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=63257&promoid=1254 Corsair CX400 - $30 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=33357 Cooler Mastter Hyper 212 Plus - $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 I'm on a very small budget so that is why I am skimping alot. The goal was to go as cheap as possible and hopefully keep the total under $500 which we successfully did (Total of $487). The reason I didn't get include a graphics card is because the integrated graphics on the 3570k are good enough to run SC2 on low. Edit: I don't need 1 TB but it was only $8 more than the 250 GB model. If anybody knows where I can get a similar quality 250 GB hard drive for around $50 after shipping that would be great. The nice thing about microcenter is that I can do in store pickup. Sorry 1 last quick question! My build is above in the spoiler. My cousin has two gtx 260 core 216 SC editions and recently upgraded his GPU. I realize these are old and probably out of date but he is offering to sell them to me for cheap. He used to run them in SLI but I'm not sure if I need that much power. Is one of the enough to run SC2 on Ultra @ 1920x1080? If now how high will the settings go on one of these? Also do they work with my current build? Finally, how much is a reasonable price for 1 or 2 of these? They have been used obviously and are out of warranty. Thanks! | ||
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seaofsaturn
United States489 Posts
I have a monitor: 1920x1200 I may add a second in the near future. Here are the pieces I am looking at so far: Processor: Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor microcenter $190 Mobo: MSI Z77MA-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS newegg $115 Memory: Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) newegg $45 Graphics: ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 newegg $240 HD: (just gonna get the SSD for now and get a data drive a little later) SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-120G-G25 120GB SATA 6.0Gb/s microcenter $100 So far it's about $700 so I am well under budget, but I don't really know what I am doing, so here are my concerns:
Thanks to everyone who answers in this thread, you've already been a great help. | ||
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InfectedGoat
Canada444 Posts
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
YOu have 1 monitor and want to use 2 ? | ||
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seaofsaturn
United States489 Posts
On August 02 2012 22:53 Rachnar wrote: can you be more specific? YOu have 1 monitor and want to use 2 ? Well my main issue is gonna be desk space so for now I just wanna build it for the one 1920x1200 monitor. | ||
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Morpheus.EU
Netherlands26 Posts
On August 02 2012 22:31 InfectedGoat wrote: Hey again! My new computer is sick I'm really happy thanks TL! But I have one more noob question for you, can I add a GTX 570 that I can get for 30$ in SLI or something to add more power or just plug in a different monitor? ? (Currently using the gtx 680) No, you can only use another GTX680. Videocards need to be identical to do SLI. But what kind of monitor do you have that one GTX680 is not enough? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On August 02 2012 20:31 seaofsaturn wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hello. Hopefully someone has the time to help me out a bit. I am looking to build a PC for gaming(sc2, D3, rts, random indie stuff) and Adobe CS6. Budget is $1000 give or take. I have a monitor: 1920x1200 I may add a second in the near future. Here are the pieces I am looking at so far: Processor: Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor microcenter $190 Mobo: MSI Z77MA-G45 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS newegg $115 Memory: Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) newegg $45 Graphics: ASUS ENGTX560 TI DCII TOP/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 newegg $240 HD: (just gonna get the SSD for now and get a data drive a little later) SanDisk Extreme SDSSDX-120G-G25 120GB SATA 6.0Gb/s microcenter $100 So far it's about $700 so I am well under budget, but I don't really know what I am doing, so here are my concerns:
Thanks to everyone who answers in this thread, you've already been a great help. If you are not overclocking than get a non-K suffix processor and a H77 motherboard. K suffix processors and Z77 boards are for overclocking so you are throwing money away if you won't be doing so. You can always add more memory later so it's not a big deal if you start with 2x4gb but ya if you are running all that at once, it's probably worth it to get 16gb. Corsair 550D, Fractal Design Define R3, Antec P280 are cases that are simple, sleek, and sound dampening. Rosewill Capstone 450 for the power supply, a very good unit at an awesome price. Older cases won't have the 2.5" bracket to let you mount the SSD so if you are purchasing an older case and a SSD that doesn't provide an adapter (Crucial M4), yes you would need an adapter if you don't want to tape it to your case or leave it dangling from the cables. Newer cases such as the Corsair 550D and P280 have SSD brackets so there is no need for an adapter. GTX 560 Ti is old. A 7850 would be better. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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