EPTIn terms of cost, there may be a larger difference at the higher storage capacities. Sometimes 5400 rpm 2 TB drives sell for as low as $80-90.
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
In terms of cost, there may be a larger difference at the higher storage capacities. Sometimes 5400 rpm 2 TB drives sell for as low as $80-90. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/rbr4O.jpg) The only thing i have left to do is to wait for the deals on newegg starting tomorrow  | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
Is the 460 that much of a difference compared to the 5770 where it is worth it in the first place? | ||
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-Solitaire-
United States30 Posts
On November 24 2010 08:46 Myrmidon wrote: If you have a single (or just a couple) 7200 rpm drives, heat really shouldn't be much of an issue, especially since you'll be using the SSD for most disk access. And the difference between a 5400 rpm and 7200 rpm drive isn't large. Looking at power consumption, a 5400 rpm drive might take 6 Watts, while a 7200 rpm drive takes 10 Watts. However, noise, power, and temperature levels are going to depend as much on the exact HDD model as the listed rpm. There's not much of a difference in any situation. In terms of cost, there may be a larger difference at the higher storage capacities. Sometimes 5400 rpm 2 TB drives sell for as low as $80-90. Thanks for the input. Only planning on having most likely one 1 TB drive to start. Dont see needing any more space than that. Much difference in noise between 5400 and 7200 ? Really trying to make a quiet system (researching fans and cooling tonight). | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
As said before many times just get the Spinpoint F3 if you want a well priced 1TB internal HDD... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 What the hell? I just bought this for $70+ last week, now its $55... FML | ||
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-Solitaire-
United States30 Posts
Putting together a comp since the one I had needs to be replaced. Hoping to do most of my buying tomorrow or over the weekend. Budget = $800 - $1200 but would go over if REALLY made a difference. Saving money never hurts though. Only plan on using the computer for everyday use and SC2. May occasionally watch (not record) streams while playing as well. As far as resolution, using two 19" right now but most likely upgrading to 24". Not sure on the SSD but pretty sure im getting it. Also trying to make it as quiet as possible so any recommendations there (fan, aftermarket cooler, etc) would be great. Thanks in advance. + Show Spoiler + CASE: Cooler Master HAF 922 Mid Tower ~ $90 CPU: Intel i5-760 2.8 GHz Quad-Core CPU ~ $205 MOBO: EVGA P55 LE 123-LF-E653-KR LGA1156 ~ $150 PSU: SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V ~ $60 GPU: XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI E ~ Already Own RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 ~ $68 SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 2.5" 90GB SATA II MLC SSD ~ $175 HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM SATA ~ $55 DVD: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R Burner ~ $20 Total ~ $817 Not set on anything. Thanks. | ||
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Saturnize
United States2473 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 24 2010 15:23 Saturnize wrote: I think I am going to go with the 6850 over the GTX 460 I think the GTX 460 is a slightly better deal, although you don't really sacrifice too much performance for the dough. | ||
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Faku
United States36 Posts
Edit: was this even the right topic? lol So far my roommate and I have picked out some basic stuff, Everything needs to fit in the Case So that was one of the first things we picked. I enjoy the features of the V9 I also will have a hdd from my laptop that won't be of any use to me if i get this desktop. Obviously after that, I would need the motherboard It was a hard decision, but for some reason it just fit what I wanted. Possibilities of SLI and future RAM if needed. This may be the only only item i am very unsure about as I have little to no knowledge of motherboards. Processor Blah blah blah, it is pretty cheap and the hump up to i7 from this i5 wasn't that large of a difference so I decided to stick with the cheaper i5. Ofc I needed RAM, but I may have picked a little too much. However, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333]This RAM was relatively cheap and a reliable brand for 8gb. Ohh the GPU, who would forget you the wonderful 460 1gb version. once again there was a cheaper 465 1gb, but the jump was just a little bit and would end up costing me a little more in energy. I havn't decided a no go on the 465 but it may be a possibility still. I really need to Power all of this crap I am putting into my nice machine, but hey modular is the way to go if you like a nice clean open airflow in your case right? 650w is something that I feel comfortable with I will assume in the future if I do decide to SLI i will just go for a larger PSU as well, but it's not that much of an importance as of right now. Other crap like optical drive and a keyboard that I have been debating on picking up. Price tag is about $960 with shipping not excluding maill in rebates on each item which adds to about 80 bucks. What will I be using this machine for you ask? Well this is obviously a Starcraft forum, so... video games for one. The intimate other may use it for photo shop and other programs of the adobe nature. I also enjoy FPS games so that's a must to run Crysis or what ever the top dog is at decent fps. Now then, the two areas I am really concerned about are obviously the power supply and my motherboard. I want enough juice in my machine to run it and not cause shit to cook me some bacon. However, I would still like the money to afford said bacon so uhh... yeah ;3 Thanks for wasting your time, will probably perform the money spending ritual sometime in the near future, like a week or two from now. <3 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The power supply is the most important component in a computer. You need to rethink your strategy because power supplies should last long enough for multiple builds. 650W is plenty for SLI GTX 460. I'm not sure why you are so certain on a Rosewill PSU since they are mediocre at best. I would suggest reconsidering since you can find Seasonic, Corsair, or Antec for the same price. No one here would recommend a Rosewill. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021 Or if you want to spend extra get the Corsair or Seasonic, since this one isnt fully modular. | ||
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-Solitaire-
United States30 Posts
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
is it worth waiting a few months for it or its not that big of a deal? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On November 25 2010 00:28 Shizuru~ wrote: What do you guys think about the Sandy Bridge line of chip sets from Intel? I have heard alot of great things about it like it has integrated graphic processor but ahs there been any sort of prototype benchmark test out there? is it worth waiting a few months for it or its not that big of a deal? Take it for what it's worth: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
AVX defines 256-bit operations (only 128-bit operations before) and non-destructive operations (the result of a + b can be directly stored in c rather than replacing what was in a or b). When manipulating certain data, double-wide operations can theoretically double the throughput, but of that's in theory and in only some applications. Then again, we get new SSE and other x86 extensions all the time, and nothing's too widespread or that important other than MMX, SSE2, and maybe something I'm forgetting. Intel's current Core i3/i5 dual cores have integrated graphics and the 32nm process, so that part's nothing new. For many users, the integrated graphics will be a decent improvement over Intel's current integrated graphics. But if you're looking to play any modern 3D games, Intel's integrated graphics are still probably going to have bad support, and they're definitely going to be much too weak anyhow. | ||
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Faku
United States36 Posts
On November 24 2010 20:59 Disregard wrote: You're better off getting this... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021 Or if you want to spend extra get the Corsair or Seasonic, since this one isnt fully modular. Looking at the reviews of this model like all PSUs there are some dead ones, but so far I do enjoy the semi modularness of this versus the full modular of the other one i have selected. @skyR I wasn't certain on the PSU at all. I will probably look at some more antech than what was posted, but I am going to assume most brands of PSU will have a %chance to fail out of the box. Is there any problems with the motherboard RAM or processor that might conflict with one another? (i find it hard to believe that they might because of the motherboard but it doesn't hurt to ask with my level of knowledge) once again thank you for your help ladies and gents. | ||
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-Solitaire-
United States30 Posts
On November 24 2010 14:22 -Solitaire- wrote: First time builder so all advice helps. Putting together a comp since the one I had needs to be replaced. Hoping to do most of my buying tomorrow or over the weekend. Budget = $800 - $1200 but would go over if REALLY made a difference. Saving money never hurts though. Only plan on using the computer for everyday use and SC2. May occasionally watch (not record) streams while playing as well. As far as resolution, using two 19" right now but most likely upgrading to 24". Not sure on the SSD but pretty sure im getting it. Also trying to make it as quiet as possible so any recommendations there (fan, aftermarket cooler, etc) would be great. Thanks in advance. + Show Spoiler + CASE: Cooler Master Storm Sniper Mid Tower CPU: Intel i5-760 2.8 GHz Quad-Core CPU MOBO: ASUS P7P55D-E LX LGA PSU: SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V GPU: XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI E ~ Already Own RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 2.5" 90GB SATA II MLC SSD HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM SATA DVD: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R Burner Not set on anything. Thanks. Final Build list above. Ordering this afternoon most likely. Any final advice? PSU enough? Anything to reduce noise ? Thanks. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The case is a big factor if you're really worried about noise. The designs with lots of mesh and lots of airflow tend to make more noise, and allow noise from inside the case to get out. A Storm Sniper is kind of expensive and seems to go against that low-noise philosophy. An aftermarket CPU cooler would reduce noise, but I don't remember which ones are good and tuned towards low noise rather than high-performance cooling. I think it comes down to your expectations of noise at idle/low load conditions and at high load conditions. You'd have to spend and plan well to get low noise at gaming loads--that's difficult. At idle, most systems are already fairly quiet. Anyhow, you might want to wait to see if deals pop up between now and Cyber Monday. | ||
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-Solitaire-
United States30 Posts
On November 25 2010 03:25 Myrmidon wrote: PSU is pretty overkill. You could easily CrossFire HD 5770 with heavy overclocks all around on that. If you're going for low noise, though, running a good PSU way under capacity (your full load would be way under capacity) would ensure it remains pretty quiet though. That was the plan. once i got everything running was going to mess with the output of the PSU. The case is a big factor if you're really worried about noise. The designs with lots of mesh and lots of airflow tend to make more noise, and allow noise from inside the case to get out. A Storm Sniper is kind of expensive and seems to go against that low-noise philosophy. An aftermarket CPU cooler would reduce noise, but I don't remember which ones are good and tuned towards low noise rather than high-performance cooling. I think it comes down to your expectations of noise at idle/low load conditions and at high load conditions. You'd have to spend and plan well to get low noise at gaming loads--that's difficult. At idle, most systems are already fairly quiet. Didnt know mess would kill noise that bad. They make a solid side panel for that case but the front would still be mostly mesh. NZXT Lexa-S Mid Tower was one of the other cases i was looking at which is mostly enclosed. Not sure about any others. Anyhow, you might want to wait to see if deals pop up between now and Cyber Monday. Newegg's deals are supposed to start today i think. Thank for the input. | ||
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