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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 19:05:48
November 24 2010 19:04 GMT
#2181
Maybe I should wait for Sandy Bridge, its going to be a 2 month wait. Still havent purchased my mobo and CPU yet for my new PC build. Or I can just go all out Black Friday/Cyber Monday. Hmm...

edit: Newegg deals start 4pm EST/1pm PST.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 24 2010 21:24 GMT
#2182
The i5 760 is $175 free shipping @ newegg right now.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Faku
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States36 Posts
November 24 2010 21:37 GMT
#2183
Along with the i5 760 being cheaper, I have found a http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500163&ATT=17-130-967&CMP=AFC-C8Junction&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=1547706&SID=]465 that is running about 175 with a mail in rebate to bring it to i think $150.

is there any problems with Zotac versus a EVGA(i know evga is a huge brand with some good backbone behind it) but this is a pretty good deal. (i could even get two of them and almost battle a 580) once again the only issue with the 465 is heat and energy usage.
Bananas
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 21:39:49
November 24 2010 21:39 GMT
#2184
Zotac is one of the biggest brands in Europe and Asia. Zotac and its sister companies make up for more than 50% of Nvidia cards sold iirc.
MattTBK
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada51 Posts
November 24 2010 22:50 GMT
#2185
What is your budget?

~1000$

What is your resolution?

I’m not quite sure what I’ll be using, I don’t have a monitor right now a friend of mine is giving me his old one and I don’t know what size it is. I don’t really have a preference though.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming, I mostly will be playing WoW, SC2, Dota 2, LoL these types of games, along with maybe some FPS's. Probably would watch streams, and maybe a bit of editing on it not much else. Most of my work is done on my laptop.

What is your upgrade cycle?

fairly long haha

When do you plan on building it?

I’d love to know what would be some good parts by Friday for the sales, but thats really short notice haha.

Do you plan on overclocking?

Never have, and probably won't in the future

Do you need an Operating System?

This shouldn't be a problem.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Doubt it

Where are you buying your parts from?

Well I'm in Canada, other than that I was just gonna lurk newegg, but anything that ships to eastern Canada would be fine.
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
November 24 2010 23:27 GMT
#2186
What is your budget?

~2000$

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

SC2 + streaming + streaming videos on other monitor (dual monitor set up)

What is your upgrade cycle?

not really looking to upgrade

When do you plan on building it?

before next year.

Do you plan on overclocking?

If I need to

Do you need an Operating System?

no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

If needed

Where are you buying your parts from?

anywhere, NCIX is the usual place I go to.
www.memoryexpress.com
Darklance
Profile Joined August 2010
22 Posts
November 25 2010 00:04 GMT
#2187
Hey guys, could I get some advice from you more experienced people? :D

I currently own a sager gaming laptop (quad 2.0ghz cpu, 4gp ram and GTX 260m), a mouse and keyboard and a 27" screen

It runs starcraft at lowest alright on 1920x1080, however trying to run other things on higher settings is difficult at that resolution

I was checking out the Newegg deals for Black Friday and
I'm looking for the possibility of getting a decent budget gaming desktop.

Here's my answers to the questions:

+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
Less than $1000 (As close to the 800-900 range as possible) and the most cost effective as possible

What is your resolution?
1920x1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly Gaming

What is your upgrade cycle?

I'll be using this until I graduate (around 2 years from now) after that, I might sell it, not really sure.

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP if I decide to actually build it

Do you plan on overclocking?
Maybe, not too sure about it though

Do you need an Operating System?
Nope, got one already

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Most probably not

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg Black friday deals


This is what I came up with on newegg:

+ Show Spoiler +
Rosewill ARMOR Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ,Full mesh design front bezel, comes with Six Fans
$79.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$49.99

PNY XLR8 VCGGTX4601XPB-OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) OC 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$179.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 ...
$79.99

OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600C9ELV6GK
$119.99

GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$94.99

Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760
$174.99

Subtotal: $779.93

I'm missing a dvd drive and a better cpu cooling system which I believe will be around 40-50 for both


What do you guys think, any replacements I should do? Is it worth it to buy this?
Thanks in advance for the help!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 25 2010 01:10 GMT
#2188
@MattTBK: + Show Spoiler +
NCIX and Memoryexpress are two good places to buy parts in Canda since they do price matching.

A general parts list would be something like this:
Core i5-750 or i5-760 -- they're identical, just one is 2.66 GHz and the other is 2.8 GHz
GTX 460 -- 768 MB version is cheaper and fine since your screen resolution won't be large on an old monitor
2x2 GB DDR3 RAM -- 1333-rated MHz is fine since no overclocking
LGA 1156 motherboard -- a board with USB3 support may be nice; I don't think you'd use any features of P55, so even a H55 or H57 chipset board is okay if it's cheaper
HDD -- whatever capacity you need, any 7200 rpm drive should be fine
optical drive -- likewise, whatever
PSU -- a good 400W or more would give some comfortable headroom

And then I'd suggest adding a SSD to use as a primary drive, to store the OS and frequently-used applications. Buy whatever capacity fits your budget and needs. All the drives using the Sandforce SF-1200 are good-performing and pretty decent values. And you need a case of course.


@stalife: + Show Spoiler +
With $2000 you can get a lot of nice stuff, but not without going past the point of bang-per-buck values. The below is going to be somewhat under $2000 definitely, but going above that amount, you wouldn't gain much at all anyway.

Core i7-950
GTX 580 -- might as well keep it to one GPU and save the hassle and heat/power of SLI/Crossfire
3x2 GB DDR3 RAM -- want triple-channel RAM, and 6 GB is plenty
LGA 1366 (X58 chipset) mobo -- USB3 support, etc. is nice if available
SSD -- get something with enough capacity to store your OS and applications; SandForce SF-1200 controller drives are popular and good, as are Crucial's RealSSD at larger capacities
HDD -- whatever
optical drive -- whatever
PSU -- with the budget, you might as well get something pretty nice here that performs really well and will last; a good 600W unit would provide headroom to spare to be able to overclock the crap out of everything

You might as well throw in a decent air cooler for the CPU too. There are some good cases in the $100 range that would be fine for dealing with the heat of an i7 and GTX 580 and sturdy enough to really last.


@Darklance: + Show Spoiler +
It seems like on that laptop, the CPU is holding back the GPU in terms of SC2 performance. Anyway...

3 RAM DIMMs on a system with triple-channel memory seems kind of weird. Is 4 GB not enough? Or maybe you could go to a 2x4 GB kit if you really want. The Corsair 650TX is good but there are other good options. You definitely don't need anything above 500W, even with some monster overclocks. Seasonic S12II 520W is a little better than the 650TX I think (other than having more wattage capacity than you wold ever use), and it's $20 cheaper.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 01:48:33
November 25 2010 01:46 GMT
#2189
You guys think my Sapphire 4770 will bottleneck my 760 Lynnfield? I'll run benchmarks,etc first then OC it later on, just want to get my system built and configured before I add anymore fans or other accessories.

Ive decided on the PSU before but still waiting for any real deals first. Want to save some cash since I was stupid enough to purchase some of the stuff 2 weeks ago instead of now, when they had $30+ discounts on all the parts I bought before. FML!

Im also still deciding on the Mobo, something that is good for OCing and I dont think I will ever SLI or X-fire. My RAM is DDR3 1600, guess I'll adjust the timing and volts if it doesnt work on the board.

The Mobo Ive decided on before:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425

Alternative:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131634

Hmm...

edit: Meant OC my i5, my 4770 is already overclocked with an after market cooler.


"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
PaiNt)
Profile Joined June 2009
United States38 Posts
November 25 2010 03:10 GMT
#2190
Hey guys, decided to wait until black friday deals popped up to buy my parts. Good thing I did because if these parts are all compatible i'll be saving ~$100 compared to my last build. Let me know what you think.

My Budget:
$600

Resolution:
1680 x 1050 (Yes I already have a monitor)

What I'm using it for:
I would like to play Starcraft on high/ultra settings without problems. I'm also interested in streaming so keep that in mind. Other than that just basic school/web browsing use.

Upgrade Cycle:
I plan on playing SC2 for a very long time.. That being said, I don't plan on upgrading if I can play and stream SC2 fine.

When do I plan on building it:
As soon as i can, preferably before my christmas break which starts Dec 21st~

Overclocking:
No

Need an OS:
Yes

Processor + Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.559887

Case + cd-drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.542821

HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433

GPU (says open box, could this pose any problems?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121376R

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371023

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148262

OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

Total comes to $544.89 - $25 MIR

How does it look? Keep in mind I would like to stream as well.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 04:25:42
November 25 2010 03:57 GMT
#2191
My cheapo BF build, no monitor:

Base Build:
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133326
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.543371
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.553657


Alternatives:+ Show Spoiler +

Gigabyte GTX 460, $179
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333&cm_re=gtx_460_1gb-_-14-125-333-_-Product
HIS 6850, $189
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161348&cm_re=6850-_-14-161-348-_-Product


Phenom II X4 925+mobo - $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.559887&cm_mmc=BFUS-_-NormalCombo-_-559887&nm_mc=BFUS
Total: $585

Core i5-760+mobo - $255
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.552987
Total: $690

Phenom II X4 970+mobo - $265
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.556810
Total: $700
starleague forever
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 25 2010 04:12 GMT
#2192
Touche, screwing myself over for not buying the parts this week...
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
NokCha
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 05:15:03
November 25 2010 05:13 GMT
#2193
What is your budget?
Budget is $900

What is your resolution?
I'm not sure how to answer this because i don't know what it is from the first place :[

What are you using it for?

Simply gaming, youtube, movie watching, and casual use.

What is your upgrade cycle?
4-5 years

When do you plan on building it?
Within 2 weeks

Do you plan on overclocking?
I don't know how to overclock and am too afraid to attempt or try.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes :[

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Not sure exactly what that means but probably no?

Where are you buying your parts from?

Purely newegg

I just want a strong solid gaming system that isn't top of the line but well above average in graphics and performance. I want to be able to play most recent games at med-high setting :x

I've been looking around newegg and this is what i have so far. Please excuse my stupidity if i say anything wrong :[
My List
+ Show Spoiler +

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $19.99

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.95

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $49.99

GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $69.99

SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card $139.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply $69.99

Logitech Z523 40 Watts RMS 2.1 Speaker System $49.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL $49.99

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX $179.00

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM $84.99

eMachines E233Hbd Black 23" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor $119.99

Total with tax=$983.91

I know its over my budget but i'm unsure what to cut down on... Can anyone with spare time help me?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 25 2010 05:48 GMT
#2194
@NokCha: Didn't you post some SC-related drawings/stories a couple years back? Those were gosu lol.

A couple of things:

A Phenom II X6 is no better than an X4 in most games because most games don't use that many processor cores. This Phenom II X4 925 and AM3 mobo combo would save a lot of money. (And the old mobo you listed actually didn't support DDR3 RAM, only DDR2, but it's a moot point.)

This GTS 450 (overclocked version) is a little cheaper than the HD 5770 and should be very marginally worse. That price for a 550VX is nice, but you don't need that much power, so a Antec Basiq 430W should be fine. Do note that it only has 3 SATA power connectors, and it's Antec's lowest-cost line (though the manufacturer seems to be Delta, which is pretty decent). You can find cheaper cases, or you could get a better case like the CM 690 (not 690ii) for the same price. There are a few rebates there as well.
GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 09:50:31
November 25 2010 08:14 GMT
#2195
Can anyone please tell me if this is a good deal?

DELL Inspiron M5030 (iM5030-2792B3D) NoteBook AMD Athlon II Dual-Core P340(2.20GHz) 15.6" 3GB Memory DDR3 1333 320GB HDD 5400rpm DVD±R/RW ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250

$379.99

thx

edit: also, is this deal good?

CyberpowerPC Gamer Ultra 2055 Athlon II X2 255(3.1GHz) 4GB DDR3 500GB ATI Radeon HD 5450 Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

$399.99
Kang Min Fighting!
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
November 25 2010 09:47 GMT
#2196
Damn Myrmidon... doin' work! Good job.

General question towards Newegg, are the deals listed on their site their real Black Friday deals? So the deals begin sooner than usual or will there be even more discounts come Friday or Cyber Monday?

I'm piecing together parts for a family computer at home and don't want to press the checkout button yet
ô¿ô
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 25 2010 10:19 GMT
#2197
Yea... Newegg started their Black Friday sales early. Not sure about Cyber Monday deals though.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
November 25 2010 10:44 GMT
#2198
According to previous years are Cyber Monday deals usually better than Black Friday for electronics?
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Faku
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 18:03:38
November 25 2010 18:02 GMT
#2199
I am having a hard time picking which GPU I want. The Zotac 465 is possibly my more favored but I'm not sure if i want to deal with the heat, but it may not even be an issue. One card to rule them all.
evga 460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130566]
Pny 460
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133326
Evga 465
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130555&cm_re=evga_gtx_465-_-14-130-555-_-Product

Zotac 465
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500163&ATT=17-130-967&CMP=AFC-C8Junction&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10440897&PID=1547706&SID=]465]
Bananas
maxchgr
Profile Joined July 2006
United States122 Posts
November 25 2010 18:10 GMT
#2200
What do you guys think of this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227291
How well would it run sc2 and do you think its a good bargain?
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