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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 08:25:23
November 21 2010 08:24 GMT
#2141
Hey guys, my 9800GT is half way dead now, and I am planning to buy a GTX 460. What is a good bang for buck from now to Cyber Monday?
Palit 1gb for $150AR,
ASUS 765mb for $115AR,
probably more deals later.
(and whats the difference on the memory, better performance?)
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 21 2010 16:31 GMT
#2142
On November 21 2010 17:24 anch wrote:
Hey guys, my 9800GT is half way dead now, and I am planning to buy a GTX 460. What is a good bang for buck from now to Cyber Monday?
Palit 1gb for $150AR,
ASUS 765mb for $115AR,
probably more deals later.
(and whats the difference on the memory, better performance?)


In the GTX 460's case, the memory difference is actually not the only change. The 1GB version has 32 raster output units and a 256-bit memory bus, while the 768MB version has 24 raster output units and a 192-bit memory bus.

However, the difference between the two is still fairly modest in most cases (see here). The 1GB version pulls ahead a little bit more mostly at higher screen resolutions and with more antialiasing.
PhoenixDown
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada33 Posts
November 21 2010 17:31 GMT
#2143
Don't know of this is the right place to post. I saw this computer and I was wondering if anyone could give me feedback on whether or not this computer would be able to run starcraft 2. My main concern is that it would overheat and whether or not the cpu is good enough. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.

Cost: $1,009.99
CPU:AMD CPU Phenom II Quad-Core 965 3.4GHz 6MB 140W Socket AM3 Black Edition
CPU Fan AMD Original AM3 CPU Fan
Motherboard Asus AMD785G Motherboard M4A785TD-V EVO
Memory 8G Kingston DDR3 1333
Hard Drive Western Digital 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA II
Optical Drive LG 22X DVD RW SATA + Dual Layer
Video ATI RAD HD5770 PCI-E 1G DDR5
Audio 8-Channel High-Definition Audio CODEC
Network Card Gigabit LAN controllers
Ports 12 USB 2.0 Ports
Neon Light 2 Sunbeam Cold Cathod Neon Light (blue)
Case Apevia X-Plorer Case (black/blue)
Power Supply 650W Cooler Master Power Supply
Warranty 3 years parts and labor warranty lifetime toll free telephone support.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 21 2010 19:25 GMT
#2144
@PhoenixDown: It really shouldn't be overheating. You only really get overheating problems with unreasonable overclocking, dust buildup, or a really bad case holding lots of power-hungry parts. Anyway, that computer could play on ultra or high settings well, depending on screen resolution and desired fps.

The issue is that the parts aren't worth more than $750, as a quick estimate. Alternatively, you could buy equivalent or better (or more suitable) parts from NCIX.com and have them assemble/test it for $50.

A few issues with that computer: most users get next to no benefit from having 8 GB of RAM so you're wasting money there, most Cooler Master power supplies are pretty crap (though that system probably wouldn't use but half of 650W anyway at full load, so it'd be okay), and that case must be in the top tier of the ugliest cases charts.
GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
November 21 2010 20:12 GMT
#2145
Thanks Myrmidon for the advice you are giving in this thread, I really appreciate the help. I'm trying to get back into learning what the new tech is out there and what is the best bang for buck kind of stuff. Thanks again!
Kang Min Fighting!
PhoenixDown
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada33 Posts
November 23 2010 00:40 GMT
#2146
@Myrmidon: Thanks for mentioning that site. Now I see how much better I can do. I should be able to get a new monitor and still be under the original cost of the computer I was going to buy earlier.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 23 2010 03:37 GMT
#2147
Waiting for Black Friday to start for newegg and then Cyber Monday. See if anything is worth buying, havent bought my i5, Truepower and Mobo yet...
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 23 2010 03:44 GMT
#2148
On November 23 2010 09:40 PhoenixDown wrote:
@Myrmidon: Thanks for mentioning that site. Now I see how much better I can do. I should be able to get a new monitor and still be under the original cost of the computer I was going to buy earlier.


Just in case you didn't catch it, NCIX does price matching, so shopbot is your friend. I dunno exactly how their price matching works though, since I'm not Canadian and don't shop there, but gl with that.
-Solitaire-
Profile Joined October 2010
United States30 Posts
November 23 2010 04:28 GMT
#2149
Hello TL. First Post.

Building a new comp. Mostly for gaming and general everyday use. Biggest workload would be SC2 and maybe watching (not recording) a stream). Nothing more.

After reading most of this thread, most likely going with the i5-750/760 but was wondering on which mobo to pick ? Currently have an ATI 5770 that I plan to use. Dont think ill need to ever SLI for what im doing so looking for advice on which mobo would be best (x8 or x16? any other specifics).

Thanks much.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
November 23 2010 04:40 GMT
#2150
Hello TL. Once again I am going to be posting what my build is so far

I looked on newegg and found as many combo deals as I could find for the parts i wanted.

I don't feel like typing everything so i have a nice photo for you guys to look at.

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"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 04:54:00
November 23 2010 04:52 GMT
#2151
On November 23 2010 13:40 Saturnize wrote:
Hello TL. Once again I am going to be posting what my build is so far

I looked on newegg and found as many combo deals as I could find for the parts i wanted.

I don't feel like typing everything so i have a nice photo for you guys to look at.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333 $10 cheaper and a faster card

On November 23 2010 13:28 -Solitaire- wrote:
Hello TL. First Post.

Building a new comp. Mostly for gaming and general everyday use. Biggest workload would be SC2 and maybe watching (not recording) a stream). Nothing more.

After reading most of this thread, most likely going with the i5-750/760 but was wondering on which mobo to pick ? Currently have an ATI 5770 that I plan to use. Dont think ill need to ever SLI for what im doing so looking for advice on which mobo would be best (x8 or x16? any other specifics).

Thanks much.


we need a budget
starleague forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
November 23 2010 04:57 GMT
#2152
@-Solitaire-

Just get a motherboard that has the necessary connectors for your needs. Ex. if you have a lot of HDDs, get one with a lot of sata connectors. Not sure what you're asking about the pci-e x8 or x16 question. The P55 chipset will always do x16 for a single card and x8 x8 for multi-card configurations. It can not do x16 x16 unless it has a nf200 chip.

Some good boards off the top of my head are Gigabyte P55 UD3, EVGA P55 LE, ASUS P55 Pro. If you're not overclocking, adding in a lot of harddrives, doing SLI / Crossfire than any board from Gigabyte, ASUS, EVGA, or MSI is good.

@Saturnize

Might want to look into a more reputable brand for the PSU such as Corsair, Seasonic, or Antec. Other than that, it looks good.

@PhoenixDown

NCIX and MemoryExpress both pricematch. They'll match a Canadian competitor's price if the item is in stock, is not limited quantity, does not include cash/cc discounts, does not include MIR, is not a misprint, and is not below their cost.

Newegg.ca is also offering price guarantee and free shipping on select items until Dec 24th.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
November 23 2010 05:02 GMT
#2153
@Saturnize: Diablotek is a known terrible PSU brand, though I'm unfamiliar if any of the units they sell are exceptions to the rule. So if you don't want exploding hardware, I'd stay away from that. Most Rosewill-branded PSUs are not that good, especially those that are bundled with their cheap cases, but their Green Series like this 430W for $45 is okay. That's plenty enough power for that build, though you'd need to use a molex to 6pin PCI-E power adapter for the GTX 460 (included with the GPU). If you'd rather pay for something higher-performing, more reliable, with more capacity and a larger warranty, the S12II 520W is good for $60.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
November 23 2010 05:12 GMT
#2154
wow already two posts about how terrible diablotek is LOL. thanks for the heads up

I had the S12II 520W on my build before but the only bad thing about it is there are no combos for it . I guess it's worth the extra $27 to get a psu that many people recommend


@a176 thx
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
November 23 2010 05:30 GMT
#2155
On November 23 2010 14:12 Saturnize wrote:
wow already two posts about how terrible diablotek is LOL. thanks for the heads up

I had the S12II 520W on my build before but the only bad thing about it is there are no combos for it . I guess it's worth the extra $27 to get a psu that many people recommend


@a176 thx


consider dropping your CPU down to one of the cheaper models. the 970 is the fastest you can get for sure, but in reality, i doubt you'd notice the difference with a lower clocked one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.552990
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.543364
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.543365
starleague forever
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
November 23 2010 06:54 GMT
#2156
On November 23 2010 14:30 a176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 14:12 Saturnize wrote:
wow already two posts about how terrible diablotek is LOL. thanks for the heads up

I had the S12II 520W on my build before but the only bad thing about it is there are no combos for it . I guess it's worth the extra $27 to get a psu that many people recommend


@a176 thx


consider dropping your CPU down to one of the cheaper models. the 970 is the fastest you can get for sure, but in reality, i doubt you'd notice the difference with a lower clocked one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.552990
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.543364
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.543365


Plus, a 955 can almost certainly be taken to 3.5GHz just by raising the multiplier.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
moweirue
Profile Joined November 2010
American Samoa4 Posts
November 23 2010 08:16 GMT
#2157
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-Solitaire-
Profile Joined October 2010
United States30 Posts
November 23 2010 14:09 GMT
#2158
On November 23 2010 13:57 skyR wrote:
@-Solitaire-

Just get a motherboard that has the necessary connectors for your needs. Ex. if you have a lot of HDDs, get one with a lot of sata connectors. Not sure what you're asking about the pci-e x8 or x16 question. The P55 chipset will always do x16 for a single card and x8 x8 for multi-card configurations. It can not do x16 x16 unless it has a nf200 chip.

Some good boards off the top of my head are Gigabyte P55 UD3, EVGA P55 LE, ASUS P55 Pro. If you're not overclocking, adding in a lot of harddrives, doing SLI / Crossfire than any board from Gigabyte, ASUS, EVGA, or MSI is good.



Didnt know that thanks.


On November 23 2010 13:52 a176 wrote:

we need a budget



Sorry didnt say because i was only looking for mobo help. No real budget though but no reason to get a board thats overpriced or one thats garbage to save money.

Going to look at the ones above. Thanks.
maxchgr
Profile Joined July 2006
United States122 Posts
November 23 2010 20:33 GMT
#2159
You experts have any advice if I want to get a sweet computer on Black Friday? Any pointers on that? Or do the computers they put out for cheap suck?
-Solitaire-
Profile Joined October 2010
United States30 Posts
November 23 2010 23:04 GMT
#2160
More than likely getting a SSD for my OS / Apps (name SC2). For a storage drive, would there be any reason to still get a 7200 RPM drive? Cost wise it doesnt appear to make much of a difference but what about power consumption / heat?
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