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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
My budget is $1000 I guess, though I hope I can get the computer I want for much less, especially with the Black Friday deals. My monitor is 1280x1024 resolution but I'm thinking I should get a bigger one? I don't know what's a good size to get. I don't want something enormous, just comfortable and a bit bigger. Suggestions? I want to be able to run sc2 on ultra (hopefully even in a 4v4) and I have no idea what fps is so I'm sorry I can't tell you what I'm looking for in fps. I also want to be able to play black ops when I buy that as well. I currently have a Dell Dimension E520 with a ATI Radeon X1300PRO so you can understand why I want a new computer I think. I am playing on low settings. I hope that someone can help me find a good deal? I dont know how to search for parts or what parts I'd be searching for or how to assemble anything. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
http://www.anandtech.com/tag/guides A 24" monitor(1920x1200) is the norm these days, anything bigger doesnt seem to be in that budget to be honest. In terms of FPS, the higher the better. You will notice significant "lag" or performance hiccups when you go below 30-35FPS. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
About $1000 What is your resolution? Currently have a 19" that's 1280x1064, plan on upgrading to a 21" or 23" in 4-5 months or so. What are you using it for? Mostly gaming with some multitasking. The heaviest multitasking i would like it to be good for is: running 3 instant messengers, ventrilo, browser with usually less than 5-6 tabs, music player, and SC2 on Ultra or WoW possibly on ultra (in windowed mode!). Doubt im going to get a new game that i'd like to run on max settings in between now and when i get a PC again. Would like to be able to stream, depends on price differential. What is your upgrade cycle? At least 4 years on getting a new PC, never upgraded parts before, if its cheaper and makes a PC last longer (coming out more cost efficient) it can be like every 2 years i suppose. When do you plan on building it? Between now and Cyber Monday is ideal (i know its really short notice). Do you plan on overclocking? Never have, don't mind trying Do you need an Operating System? Yes, Vista plain sucks. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? If for some reason it'd be more cost efficient, sure (Personally i haven't reasearched SLI and Crossfire really). Where are you buying your parts from? Anywhere online is fine, Only know of newegg, ibuypower. | ||
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
On November 26 2010 04:48 Disregard wrote: Heres a better guide for understanding the basics, great website along with Tomshardware. Use it often to compare performance and benchmarks. With $1000, buying prebuilt PCs to run games on ultra just doesnt seem plausible. http://www.anandtech.com/tag/guides A 24" monitor(1920x1200) is the norm these days, anything bigger doesnt seem to be in that budget to be honest. In terms of FPS, the higher the better. You will notice significant "lag" or performance hiccups when you go below 30-35FPS. I am reading this thread. Based on that thread, this computer seems to be able to run on ultra and is way below 1k. Am I wrong that it can run on Ultra? It says that any AMD Phehom II line can run ultra, and it is one. It says that ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB performed very well on sc2, even compared to the others in it's tier. It also seems to be at a high tier: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-graphics-card,2544-7.html It has 1TB HDD and 4GB DDR3 RAM which should be entirely sufficient, no? Thanks to that thread, I understand what that stuff means now lol | ||
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pirouni
Greece31 Posts
Budget is $1500 What is your resolution? 3240 x 1920 ( 3x1 1080x1920 vertical) What are you using it for? Simply gaming(sc2, wow), youtube, movie watching, and casual use. What is your upgrade cycle? 2-3 years When do you plan on building it? in a couple of months Do you plan on overclocking? no. Do you need an Operating System? no, windows 7 installed Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? i already got 1x ATI 5850 Where are you buying your parts from? local shop (ASUS / Gigabite major labels) Actually, is my E8400 @3GHz 6GB ram enough or do i have to upgrade processor( and motherboard and ram) ? | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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vizniz
United States120 Posts
Resolution: I have no monitor. That needs to be in my build. Use: Gaming and papers. Upgrade cycle: 2-3 years. When to build?: ASAP. I'd love to get this stuff ordered TODAY. Overclock: No Need an Operating System?: Yes Second GPU: No Buying parts: Newegg | ||
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + What are you using it for? Mainly I want a PC that is VERY quiet but can still run Starcraft 2. Ideally it should be able to run a nice video stream (that I broadcast), but it's not important. I'll use the PC just for browsing, Office, watching streams and so on, nothing that needs a lot of oomph. Since it will be in my living room it would be ideal if I could leave it on 24/7 without having to listen to the fans. My current PC has gotten very noisy over the years and I'm sick of it. What is your resolution? I currently have a 22" monitor, so my resolution is 1680x1050. If I won't be able to run Starcraft with that I'll be happy to run it at a lower resolution. What I want is that everything runs smoothly, not necessarily at the highest settings. I might want to either buy a bigger, nicer monitor or a second one in a couple of months (will I need a special graphics card for that?), so maybe we can take that into account. What is your budget? 600-800 €, even though I might be willing to spend more, just not all at once. Since I won't use it for gaming very much, maybe I can use an onboard graphics chip at first and buy a nice graphics card later? What is your upgrade cycle? Many years. I've had this PC for 6 years. I don't plan on upgrading the new one except for the case that it would be very easy and cheap. OS? Yes, I'd probably need to buy Windows 7, but maybe I can delay that for some time. I still own a copy of Windows XP and there's no reason for me to switch currently, since DX 10 games don't interest me very much. When do you plan on building it? Right now or right after Christmas. Amazon.co.uk has Black Friday deals this week, so maybe that's a reason to buy now. Overclocking? No, performance is less important than that it's quiet. SLI / Dual Graphics cards Well, not now, but if that would be an option to push the performance in two years or so it might be an idea to buy parts now that allow me to do it later? Where do you buy your parts from? Amazon probably, or wherever I can find them cheapest. I can figure that out myself I guess. Parts that I think would be good (please help me here) MSI-790FX-GD70-Motherboard-790FX-PCI (is this any good?) Zalman 9700 CPU fan (I've read that it's very quiet and efficient) Antec P183 (quiet and elegant) Enermax-ECO80-EES500AWT (I hear it's quiet) Maybe you can make better recommendations and/or help me with the rest? I'd like a graphics card from Nvidia since I like using Linux and their driver support is very good. If there are many reasons not to go for Nvidia I'll gladly buy from different brand though. It'd be great if the graphics card wouldn't be very loud or if I could use a quiet fan with it. I think the GV1000 by Zalman is quite good? Question is if it'd work with the graphics card I'll buy. Another thing is that I'd like a SSD for booting and running the apps I use most. Are there cheap ones that are worth it? | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Mobo GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425 GPU SAPPHIRE 5770 1GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873 edit: Get a 460 Fermi instead, this was just comparing prices. PSU Antec BP550 Plus 550W Modular http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016 CPU Intel Core i5-760 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067 RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277 HDD SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 Optical Drive LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276 OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 Total - $762.91 Sorry had connection problems, had to attend to that first. This is a standard build without a SSD, you have money left over for other accessories and other parts. This was just to compare the pre-built PC, would be ideal to replace that 5770 with a GTX 460 Fermi. | ||
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On November 26 2010 07:10 maxchgr wrote: Is that a response to me? Yes, though judging from your native resolution. Getting a 1GB GPU would not be necessary but its relatively cheap so you wouldnt be saving much anyway. Comparing to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227291 If you prefer not to go through the hassle, I see why not. Just I prefer to build and mod it myself. But its Black Friday deals so whatever floats your boat. But in general that is a relatively standard budget build, we can adjust further if you or others had a higher budget... Though $1000 is plenty. edit: Oh and this build is great for Overclocking. | ||
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
Are the parts that you listed here better than the pre-built computer? Question about the Intel Core i5-760. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-core-i3-athlon-ii-x4,2791-6.html says that it's a tier above the AMD Phenom II X6 1055T(2.8GHz) but the link you put is a quad-core and the prebuilt has a 6 core. Is it still better or is that hard to tell? | ||
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China10252 Posts
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Faku
United States36 Posts
GPU EVGA 460 1gb version Power antech true power (as suggested) RAM 2x4gb DDR3 PNY Motherboard MSI P55-GD65 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard Processor Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 Quad Core Case Thermaltake V9 BlacX Edition Gaming Chassis Mid Tower Optical Drive cheap sony one that I am pretty sure will work with everything. I would like to verify that everything will work well with each other, and that I am getting the best bang for my buck. The price with shipping is 887 with rebates it's going to be about 820 or so. I excluded a keyboard from my list because it has no importance on the parts themselves. I should also state that I have one or two spare HDDs around that I can put into this computer so that is why they are not listed on the build. | ||
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maxchgr
United States122 Posts
Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66GHZ 2.66 GHz, 3.00GB of RAM ATI Radeon X1300PRO | ||
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stalife
Canada1222 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On November 26 2010 07:45 Faku wrote: Stuff You don't need 8GB of RAM, save cash and buy only 4GB. If you need to ask yourself at any point whether or not you need 8GB of RAM, you don't need it. I think for Americans g.skill is having a sale on its RAM and you can get like 4GB for $50 so go get g.skill because they're at the very least better than PNY. On November 26 2010 09:04 stalife wrote: Is this good for the price? My budget is ~2000 anyway so anyone's input on this ? http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=E17BFAF4-7114-4A99-A2D65CDA3B3AC75C-3122522#PCTop What are you doing on it? If your answer is games and other non-workstation type stuff (like video editing for a living), you don't need a X58 motherboard. A GTX580 shouldn't need SLI for anything unless you are running 3D Vision. Don't even bring up Metro 2033, because its only a single game. The Antec 1200 isn't a great case unless you need the 5.25" bays (you can suspend hard disks in them for example). Is there even a reason why you need a full tower PC? | ||
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Faku
United States36 Posts
also, looking at new RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277 i think that would work well with my build if i wanted to go for the 4gb. | ||
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