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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
maxchgr
Profile Joined July 2006
United States122 Posts
November 25 2010 18:14 GMT
#2201
I know nothing about computers. How is it possible to distinguish all these computers omg? http://www.ibuypower.com/ and I can't understand what I'm looking at. Are these good deals? *cries*
maxchgr
Profile Joined July 2006
United States122 Posts
November 25 2010 18:30 GMT
#2202
Okay, maybe I should ask for help more formally, sorry for the multiple posts.
My budget is $1000 I guess, though I hope I can get the computer I want for much less, especially with the Black Friday deals.
My monitor is 1280x1024 resolution but I'm thinking I should get a bigger one? I don't know what's a good size to get. I don't want something enormous, just comfortable and a bit bigger. Suggestions?
I want to be able to run sc2 on ultra (hopefully even in a 4v4) and I have no idea what fps is so I'm sorry I can't tell you what I'm looking for in fps. I also want to be able to play black ops when I buy that as well.

I currently have a Dell Dimension E520 with a ATI Radeon X1300PRO so you can understand why I want a new computer I think. I am playing on low settings.

I hope that someone can help me find a good deal? I dont know how to search for parts or what parts I'd be searching for or how to assemble anything.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 25 2010 19:48 GMT
#2203
Heres a better guide for understanding the basics, great website along with Tomshardware. Use it often to compare performance and benchmarks. With $1000, buying prebuilt PCs to run games on ultra just doesnt seem plausible.

http://www.anandtech.com/tag/guides

A 24" monitor(1920x1200) is the norm these days, anything bigger doesnt seem to be in that budget to be honest. In terms of FPS, the higher the better. You will notice significant "lag" or performance hiccups when you go below 30-35FPS.

"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 20:45:58
November 25 2010 20:42 GMT
#2204
What is your budget?

About $1000

What is your resolution?

Currently have a 19" that's 1280x1064, plan on upgrading to a 21" or 23" in 4-5 months or so.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming with some multitasking. The heaviest multitasking i would like it to be good for is: running 3 instant messengers, ventrilo, browser with usually less than 5-6 tabs, music player, and SC2 on Ultra or WoW possibly on ultra (in windowed mode!). Doubt im going to get a new game that i'd like to run on max settings in between now and when i get a PC again.
Would like to be able to stream, depends on price differential.

What is your upgrade cycle?

At least 4 years on getting a new PC, never upgraded parts before, if its cheaper and makes a PC last longer (coming out more cost efficient) it can be like every 2 years i suppose.

When do you plan on building it?

Between now and Cyber Monday is ideal (i know its really short notice).

Do you plan on overclocking?

Never have, don't mind trying

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes, Vista plain sucks.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

If for some reason it'd be more cost efficient, sure (Personally i haven't reasearched SLI and Crossfire really).

Where are you buying your parts from?

Anywhere online is fine, Only know of newegg, ibuypower.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
maxchgr
Profile Joined July 2006
United States122 Posts
November 25 2010 21:03 GMT
#2205
On November 26 2010 04:48 Disregard wrote:
Heres a better guide for understanding the basics, great website along with Tomshardware. Use it often to compare performance and benchmarks. With $1000, buying prebuilt PCs to run games on ultra just doesnt seem plausible.

http://www.anandtech.com/tag/guides

A 24" monitor(1920x1200) is the norm these days, anything bigger doesnt seem to be in that budget to be honest. In terms of FPS, the higher the better. You will notice significant "lag" or performance hiccups when you go below 30-35FPS.



I am reading this thread.
Based on that thread, this computer seems to be able to run on ultra and is way below 1k. Am I wrong that it can run on Ultra?

It says that any AMD Phehom II line can run ultra, and it is one.
It says that ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB performed very well on sc2, even compared to the others in it's tier. It also seems to be at a high tier: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-graphics-card,2544-7.html
It has 1TB HDD and 4GB DDR3 RAM which should be entirely sufficient, no? Thanks to that thread, I understand what that stuff means now lol
pirouni
Profile Joined May 2010
Greece31 Posts
November 25 2010 21:06 GMT
#2206
What is your budget?
Budget is $1500

What is your resolution?
3240 x 1920 ( 3x1 1080x1920 vertical)

What are you using it for?

Simply gaming(sc2, wow), youtube, movie watching, and casual use.

What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years

When do you plan on building it?
in a couple of months

Do you plan on overclocking?
no.

Do you need an Operating System?

no, windows 7 installed

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

i already got 1x ATI 5850

Where are you buying your parts from?

local shop (ASUS / Gigabite major labels)

Actually, is my E8400 @3GHz 6GB ram enough or do i have to upgrade processor( and motherboard and ram) ?
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 25 2010 21:17 GMT
#2207
Let me get a basic budget build up and you can compare if you desire.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
vizniz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
November 25 2010 21:26 GMT
#2208
Budget: ~$1500
Resolution: I have no monitor. That needs to be in my build.
Use: Gaming and papers.
Upgrade cycle: 2-3 years.
When to build?: ASAP. I'd love to get this stuff ordered TODAY.
Overclock: No
Need an Operating System?: Yes
Second GPU: No
Buying parts: Newegg
SC2/LoL/Steam: vizniz LoL smurf: visnistehsmurf
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
November 25 2010 21:29 GMT
#2209
Can somebody post a nice build for me please? I'll put all the info you asked for in the OP in spoilers:

+ Show Spoiler +

What are you using it for?
Mainly I want a PC that is VERY quiet but can still run Starcraft 2. Ideally it should be able to run a nice video stream (that I broadcast), but it's not important. I'll use the PC just for browsing, Office, watching streams and so on, nothing that needs a lot of oomph. Since it will be in my living room it would be ideal if I could leave it on 24/7 without having to listen to the fans. My current PC has gotten very noisy over the years and I'm sick of it.

What is your resolution?
I currently have a 22" monitor, so my resolution is 1680x1050. If I won't be able to run Starcraft with that I'll be happy to run it at a lower resolution. What I want is that everything runs smoothly, not necessarily at the highest settings. I might want to either buy a bigger, nicer monitor or a second one in a couple of months (will I need a special graphics card for that?), so maybe we can take that into account.

What is your budget?
600-800 €, even though I might be willing to spend more, just not all at once. Since I won't use it for gaming very much, maybe I can use an onboard graphics chip at first and buy a nice graphics card later?

What is your upgrade cycle?
Many years. I've had this PC for 6 years. I don't plan on upgrading the new one except for the case that it would be very easy and cheap.

OS?
Yes, I'd probably need to buy Windows 7, but maybe I can delay that for some time. I still own a copy of Windows XP and there's no reason for me to switch currently, since DX 10 games don't interest me very much.

When do you plan on building it?
Right now or right after Christmas. Amazon.co.uk has Black Friday deals this week, so maybe that's a reason to buy now.

Overclocking?
No, performance is less important than that it's quiet.

SLI / Dual Graphics cards
Well, not now, but if that would be an option to push the performance in two years or so it might be an idea to buy parts now that allow me to do it later?

Where do you buy your parts from?
Amazon probably, or wherever I can find them cheapest. I can figure that out myself I guess.

Parts that I think would be good (please help me here)
MSI-790FX-GD70-Motherboard-790FX-PCI (is this any good?)
Zalman 9700 CPU fan (I've read that it's very quiet and efficient)
Antec P183 (quiet and elegant)
Enermax-ECO80-EES500AWT (I hear it's quiet)

Maybe you can make better recommendations and/or help me with the rest? I'd like a graphics card from Nvidia since I like using Linux and their driver support is very good. If there are many reasons not to go for Nvidia I'll gladly buy from different brand though. It'd be great if the graphics card wouldn't be very loud or if I could use a quiet fan with it. I think the GV1000 by Zalman is quite good? Question is if it'd work with the graphics card I'll buy.

Another thing is that I'd like a SSD for booting and running the apps I use most. Are there cheap ones that are worth it?
This is my truth, tell me yours!
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-26 00:17:38
November 25 2010 22:05 GMT
#2210
Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Mobo
GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425

GPU
SAPPHIRE 5770 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873

edit: Get a 460 Fermi instead, this was just comparing prices.

PSU
Antec BP550 Plus 550W Modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016

CPU
Intel Core i5-760
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115067

RAM
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

HDD
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Optical Drive
LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276

OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

Total - $762.91

Sorry had connection problems, had to attend to that first. This is a standard build without a SSD, you have money left over for other accessories and other parts. This was just to compare the pre-built PC, would be ideal to replace that 5770 with a GTX 460 Fermi.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
maxchgr
Profile Joined July 2006
United States122 Posts
November 25 2010 22:10 GMT
#2211
Is that a response to me?
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 25 2010 22:10 GMT
#2212
If you want a quieter PC, try to get a solid case without many mesh filters and less fans. This trades cooling for less noise but you can sort of counter-balance that if you get a relatively spacey case so the hot air can flow out.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 22:21:43
November 25 2010 22:14 GMT
#2213
On November 26 2010 07:10 maxchgr wrote:
Is that a response to me?


Yes, though judging from your native resolution. Getting a 1GB GPU would not be necessary but its relatively cheap so you wouldnt be saving much anyway.

Comparing to this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227291

If you prefer not to go through the hassle, I see why not. Just I prefer to build and mod it myself. But its Black Friday deals so whatever floats your boat.

But in general that is a relatively standard budget build, we can adjust further if you or others had a higher budget... Though $1000 is plenty.

edit: Oh and this build is great for Overclocking.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
maxchgr
Profile Joined July 2006
United States122 Posts
November 25 2010 22:22 GMT
#2214
Firstly, thank you for spending the time.

Are the parts that you listed here better than the pre-built computer?

Question about the Intel Core i5-760. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-core-i3-athlon-ii-x4,2791-6.html says that it's a tier above the AMD Phenom II X6 1055T(2.8GHz) but the link you put is a quad-core and the prebuilt has a 6 core. Is it still better or is that hard to tell?
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 25 2010 22:29 GMT
#2215
If you're gonna do a lot of video-editing, coding and whatever else that uses the full potential of the hexacore, then its worth it. But other then that its a better idea to get the quad core, for games, streaming and the basics
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Faku
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 22:46:17
November 25 2010 22:45 GMT
#2216
Okay this is my final build.

GPU EVGA 460 1gb version

Power antech true power (as suggested)

RAM 2x4gb DDR3 PNY

Motherboard MSI P55-GD65 LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

Processor Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 Quad Core

Case Thermaltake V9 BlacX Edition Gaming Chassis Mid Tower

Optical Drive cheap sony one that I am pretty sure will work with everything.

I would like to verify that everything will work well with each other, and that I am getting the best bang for my buck.

The price with shipping is 887 with rebates it's going to be about 820 or so. I excluded a keyboard from my list because it has no importance on the parts themselves.

I should also state that I have one or two spare HDDs around that I can put into this computer so that is why they are not listed on the build.
Bananas
maxchgr
Profile Joined July 2006
United States122 Posts
November 25 2010 23:12 GMT
#2217
My current computer is a Dell Dimension E520
Intel(R)
Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66GHZ
2.66 GHz, 3.00GB of RAM
ATI Radeon X1300PRO
stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
November 26 2010 00:04 GMT
#2218
Is this good for the price? My budget is ~2000 anyway so anyone's input on this ?

http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=E17BFAF4-7114-4A99-A2D65CDA3B3AC75C-3122522#PCTop

www.memoryexpress.com
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-26 01:19:19
November 26 2010 01:10 GMT
#2219
On November 26 2010 07:45 Faku wrote:
Stuff


You don't need 8GB of RAM, save cash and buy only 4GB. If you need to ask yourself at any point whether or not you need 8GB of RAM, you don't need it.

I think for Americans g.skill is having a sale on its RAM and you can get like 4GB for $50 so go get g.skill because they're at the very least better than PNY.

On November 26 2010 09:04 stalife wrote:
Is this good for the price? My budget is ~2000 anyway so anyone's input on this ?

http://pc.ncix.com/ncixpc/ncixpc.cfm?uuid=E17BFAF4-7114-4A99-A2D65CDA3B3AC75C-3122522#PCTop



What are you doing on it? If your answer is games and other non-workstation type stuff (like video editing for a living), you don't need a X58 motherboard. A GTX580 shouldn't need SLI for anything unless you are running 3D Vision. Don't even bring up Metro 2033, because its only a single game.

The Antec 1200 isn't a great case unless you need the 5.25" bays (you can suspend hard disks in them for example). Is there even a reason why you need a full tower PC?
Faku
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States36 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-26 01:17:37
November 26 2010 01:15 GMT
#2220
Is there anything else I should worry about or change in this build?

also, looking at new RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277

i think that would work well with my build if i wanted to go for the 4gb.
Bananas
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