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ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
February 21 2010 20:25 GMT
#101
On February 22 2010 05:23 FragKrag wrote:
That looks a bit odd to me. I expected the 8600 GT to perform better o-o


yea i know rite. would it matter that im using vista or maybe i have some old settings in rivatuner that i should restore to default?

or maybe its cuz my 8600gt is a low power card that doesnt require direct connection from PSU to card...
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 21 2010 20:31 GMT
#102
only been watching reps, but there i run evrything on ultra @ 1680x1050 :

cpu: phenom II 955
ram : 4gb value g.skill (only 3.25 real since i still use XP)
gfx: nvidia g94, think a 9600gt slightly overclocked at 512mb


dunno if sc2 scales good with cpu or is just so good that it runs on ultra on a old 9600gt
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-21 20:42:59
February 21 2010 20:36 GMT
#103
fucking Nvidia naming schemes. The 8600GTS is the low-mid level.

The 8600 GT is a low power card. ;_;

one letter changes the entire ranking of a fucking card.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
February 21 2010 20:50 GMT
#104
On February 22 2010 05:36 FragKrag wrote:
fucking Nvidia naming schemes. The 8600GTS is the low-mid level.

The 8600 GT is a low power card. ;_;

one letter changes the entire ranking of a fucking card.


yea the 8600gts >>8600gt

but its k. i did some stuff and it works pretty good on higher settings.

what would you say is playable tho? consistent 60+fps?
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 21 2010 20:53 GMT
#105
maybe medium at 1280x1024 or 1360x768

I'm still pretty surprised at how badly the two gpus perform ;/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-21 20:55:57
February 21 2010 20:54 GMT
#106
Frag can you edit this website benchmark of the beta's performance into your OP
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/starcraft_ii_wings_of_liberty_beta_performance,1.html
Also apparently happy b-day man~
I like how to the end they know to show cpu power difference and effects on fps as the game is a rts it is cpu dependent as much as it is gpu dependent.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-21 21:05:19
February 21 2010 20:56 GMT
#107
It is in one of the spoilers, but yeah I'll edit it into the top

In response to the CPU scaling, I would say that yeah, RTS are more CPU dependent, but they used a Core i7, and not as much stress was put on the GPU as should have been. I would have liked to see the results with a card like the 5770 or GTS 250 to see the difference tbh.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
skint
Profile Joined June 2007
United Kingdom2 Posts
February 21 2010 21:05 GMT
#108
i thought id try it on my Acer Aspire Revo which has Atom 230 cpu, ION gpu and 2gb ram. switched eveyrthing to lowest and it runs at about 20fps =) although the fps didnt seem to change much from the settings it had at default which were mostly 'medium' to when i set everything to lowest including resolution.
it was ok for watching replays, but not really playable fps. might be playable with an atom 330 which is dual core, also ION2 is out soon. theres also alot of netbook/nettops coming out with CULV cpus which are faster again than the Atoms, these seem to come with different gfx such as ATI 3200 or GMA 4500MHD so these may be able to run it.

just thought id test it and post results.

one problem i did have was invisible mouse which made navigating the menus quite hard, dunno if anyone else has had this problem? using latest nvidia drivers too.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-21 22:22:40
February 21 2010 21:07 GMT
#109
from the bench the only concrete conclusions we can come up with is that if you want to play at 1920x1200 ultra with minimum fps of 60 on ultra you need at least an e5200 or athlon ii 240 (it may be able to do it on high clocking single cores over 3ghz but that is just a guess, a wild one at that) with an hd4890 or gtx 260 (no longer gts250 they messed up the labeling).

there are very clear performance anomalies going on if we assume this bench was conducted properly, so when blizzard fixes whatever bug that's currently affecting ati cards i'd imagine fps is going to shoot up OR it could just be blizzard's code takes advantage of some architecture in the nvidia cards better (hmm...).

at first glance it looks like sc2 for ati cards favor high memory bandwidth / frequency cards and nvidia cards are performing one tier higher relative to their equivalent ati cards
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 21 2010 21:08 GMT
#110
I wasn't aware that netbooks actually supported 1024x768 resolution o_O

I thought they were all like 1024x600 because of Intel?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 21 2010 22:19 GMT
#111
I don't think it's possible to begin explaining how amazing the GTX 260 performance is compared to the ATi series. Jesus christ it is at the disadvantage in every possible way yet it still performs better. Is the 448 bus/architecture really what is boosting its performance? ><
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 22 2010 01:36 GMT
#112
Happy birthday fragkrag!!!!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
MasterDana
Profile Joined March 2008
United States114 Posts
February 22 2010 02:07 GMT
#113
Very helpful thread. Answers a few questions I had.

Thanks! <:
<:
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
February 22 2010 02:15 GMT
#114
Intel 940 i7
Kingston HyperX 3x2GB DDR3
PNY Geforce GTX 260
Samsung 128GB solid state SSD

I consistently get 80-90 FPS with everything maxed out.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 22 2010 02:18 GMT
#115
useless without resolution
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
February 22 2010 02:21 GMT
#116
On February 22 2010 11:15 Louder wrote:
Intel 940 i7
Kingston HyperX 3x2GB DDR3
PNY Geforce GTX 260
Samsung 128GB solid state SSD

I consistently get 80-90 FPS with everything maxed out.


lol nice comp
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
February 22 2010 02:26 GMT
#117
Game is smooth without a video card of any kind for me. I have my settings relatively low but the gameplay has been perfectly smooth.

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @3.00Ghz
2 gigs RAM
NO VIDEO CARD

and no problems. I am very impressed.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
February 22 2010 02:28 GMT
#118
again worthless without resolution

kindly post your motherboard as well

I don't like false information running around in my threads.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 02:30:37
February 22 2010 02:30 GMT
#119
Ive heard from friends that (newer) integrated GPUs can run SCII o_o
:)
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11567 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-22 03:18:49
February 22 2010 03:17 GMT
#120
Yeah, they probably can. The HD 4200 should be able to run SC2 because it is in the general area of the minimum requirements. It can also depend on how much memory the motherboard has reserved for the that integrated card. The more memory the motherboard has hardwired into it for the IGP, the more powerful that IGP is.

Edit: Updates for today- Build paths, updated the gpu list a bit, along with a short newbie intro to computer language~
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
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