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MK
United States496 Posts
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Idle
Korea (South)124 Posts
On July 01 2009 15:55 FieryBalrog wrote: Dawn of War 2. WC3 was somewhat top down. Diablo certainly didn't succeed because of the community, the community was a bunch of hacking and botting asshats. Dawn of war 2 has lan play. | ||
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ggfobster
United States298 Posts
So, say goodbye to LAN forever so Blizzard can have a few days or weeks of clean play. I have loved Blizzard games, but I'm no apologist that will apologize for anything Blizzard does. This is Blizzard being straight of FAIL. | ||
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saritenite
Singapore1680 Posts
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Emlary
China3334 Posts
There are many other pirate networks like Haofang (OK, its real name is Holdfast) in China. Blizzard did nothing against them in many years. But it has to be an end. I always know this day is coming. By the way, Haofang is owned by the biggest Chinese gaming company Shanda. Sadly we Chinese will have an isolated BN2.0 when SC2 is out. Might write something more about all the weird SC-related things that happen in China. | ||
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
On July 01 2009 16:32 Idle wrote: Dawn of war 2 has lan play. It requires online connection. Which is the complaint, right? On July 01 2009 16:47 ggfobster wrote: Blizzard knows that all it takes is one person to reverse engineer a Bnet login and then route it through Haofang and then everyone is using haofang instead of Bnet. Blizzard can't control piracy, it will still be around. Basically, they eliminate LAN play, which everyone is affected by, because they know it will take at least a little while for someone to crack the login, so Blizz gets a few days or weeks of clean play when the game is first released. So, say goodbye to LAN forever so Blizzard can have a few days or weeks of clean play. I have loved Blizzard games, but I'm no apologist that will apologize for anything Blizzard does. This is Blizzard being straight of FAIL. Drama much? Who knows its forever? What if there's LAN play like Steam does it? But wait, being calm on the internet? Don't be stupid, the internet is for exaggerated outrage about everything! | ||
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genai
Croatia78 Posts
Me and my friends played sc1 since release and we all bought it... yet we often make weekend lans for all 10-20 of us in some party hall that obviously has no internet connection (drinking, barbecue often included etc). Now, since there is no lan, and we all were gonna buy SC2 because we just love the game and would just play on battle.net as well as lan, we have to become criminals so we can enjoy SC2 on LAN? To sum it up: no lan does nothing against piracy, its just blizzard taking a dump on paying customers and fans... all while forcing them to become pirates... so, they made more pirates out of paying customers than making paying customers out of pirates! i say awesome "EA style" decision welcome to my blacklist, atleast EA gets some company there! im not going to support companies that insult me with crap like that edit: ive been following this site for a loooooong time, just never had anything so say... now i do  | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On July 01 2009 18:39 Emlary wrote: Interesting to see this thread was tranlated into Chinese and read by a lot of Chinese gaming communities, even a popular tech blog post it. There are many other pirate networks like Haofang (OK, its real name is Holdfast) in China. Blizzard did nothing against them in many years. But it has to be an end. I always know this day is coming. By the way, Haofang is owned by the biggest Chinese gaming company Shanda. Sadly we Chinese will have an isolated BN2.0 when SC2 is out. Might write something more about all the weird SC-related things that happen in China. They translate this thread and dont know that I am now staying in Shanghai and speak perfect Chinese... Just too lazy to go to Chinese gaming sites like plu or playsc. Thank you for letting me know about this  | ||
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stroggos
New Zealand1543 Posts
On July 01 2009 17:10 sArite_nite wrote: What will happen to all the PCbangs and LAN Centers? What will happen to my beloved childhood memories? oh noes, they will be forced to play on battlenet 2.0!!! | ||
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Random()
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
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botaxkeren
Indonesia30 Posts
im in china right now and still using haofang and vs.. its really a sad news that sc2 cannot be plyd via lan. | ||
Empyrean
16993 Posts
On July 01 2009 21:25 botaxkeren wrote: before, 'haofang' was the biggest in china, but now is 'vs' it works the same way as 'haofang'.. if u win ull get exp based on your opponents lvl (the higher your oppnents lvl the higher exp ull get) im in china right now and still using haofang and vs.. its really a sad news that sc2 cannot be plyd via lan. VS is absolutely horrible in terms of how many people hack. I mean even on the show when Lx (or was it F91?) was playing some random lvl...16? VS pub on Blue Storm, the pub activated a hack that made like 15 Battlecruisers appear. Seriously, what the fuck :/ | ||
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On July 01 2009 19:20 FieryBalrog wrote: Drama much? Who knows its forever? What if there's LAN play like Steam does it? But wait, being calm on the internet? Don't be stupid, the internet is for exaggerated outrage about everything! An online verification like Steam would be nice, but then that raises the question as to why Blizzard flat out stated no LAN. "No LAN play" and "LAN play needs online log-in" are two completely different statements. If Blizzard comes out and say that LAN will work like Steam, then they are basically contradicting themselves. And it also raises the question as to why they are so reluctant to clarify on it if this is true. Saying LAN will require log-in doesn't give away key features of Bnet, so there's really no reason to keep stringing us along like this since they are only damaging their reputation by doing so. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66202 Posts
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genryou
Malaysia390 Posts
All this arguments is just a way to blow off steam. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12237 Posts
On July 02 2009 00:06 genryou wrote: Despite the outrage, 90% of the netizen will still buy SC2 for fun sake. All this arguments is just a way to blow off steam. I think we can all bank on the "peer pressure" scenario: LAN_Supporter: Hey what's up? Friend: Oh hey dude just playing SC2 with our other friends, you should log on and play with us! LAN_Supporter: Oh really? Eh, I don't think so, they took out LAN play, I won't support an evil company that robs its customers of basic necessities. Friend: Uh what are you talking about? Quit being a nerd and log on to Bnet and play with us, we need one more for a full 3v3. LAN_Supporter: They took out LAN so I'm not buying the game on principle. Friend: On the principle of you being dumb? Everyone is playing so just swallow your pride and get it. LAN_Supporter: Your mom swallowed my pride. Friend: Whatever man, enjoy crying in your corner and keep up your LAN crusade as an Internet warrior. Just get the damn game. LAN_Supporter: =( | ||
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I3oxerfan
215 Posts
On July 02 2009 00:27 Excalibur_Z wrote: I think we can all bank on the "peer pressure" scenario: LAN_Supporter: Hey what's up? Friend: Oh hey dude just playing SC2 with our other friends, you should log on and play with us! LAN_Supporter: Oh really? Eh, I don't think so, they took out LAN play, I won't support an evil company that robs its customers of basic necessities. Friend: Uh what are you talking about? Quit being a nerd and log on to Bnet and play with us, we need one more for a full 3v3. LAN_Supporter: They took out LAN so I'm not buying the game on principle. Friend: On the principle of you being dumb? Everyone is playing so just swallow your pride and get it. LAN_Supporter: Your mom swallowed my pride. Friend: Whatever man, enjoy crying in your corner and keep up your LAN crusade as an Internet warrior. Just get the damn game. LAN_Supporter: =( Trying to be funny, eh? | ||
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danieldrsa
Brazil523 Posts
On July 01 2009 14:50 FieryBalrog wrote: Haha, all I can say is good luck finding an RTS with a better online system. For all your bitching a lot of RTS games don't include LAN play these days, and none of them have anything close to Battle.net. Hell, most of them can't even match SC1's Battle.net since they are using horrible shit like Gamespy or GFWL. I love the internet revolutionaries in here going on about how Blizzard is the next Satan because they took out LAN play (I know, thats almost like punching babies and kittens). You think this is bad "DRM"? This barely qualifies as DRM to boot. Look at Spore (or any EA game just about) for hideously bad DRM, and even Steam is much more invasive than Blizzard is. You guys are living in some fantasy candyland if you think this is outside the norm, its actually better than the norm. Anyway, while any reasonable person can be concerned, even if they don't have LAN play if you're not an internet hothead you might come to accept the fact that you can still play with your buddy right next to you at LAN latencies over B.net. Custom games are p2p and the data is going within your network. Perfect words | ||
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Manaldski
229 Posts
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On July 02 2009 00:27 Excalibur_Z wrote: I think we can all bank on the "peer pressure" scenario: LAN_Supporter: Hey what's up? Friend: Oh hey dude just playing SC2 with our other friends, you should log on and play with us! LAN_Supporter: Oh really? Eh, I don't think so, they took out LAN play, I won't support an evil company that robs its customers of basic necessities. Friend: Uh what are you talking about? Quit being a nerd and log on to Bnet and play with us, we need one more for a full 3v3. LAN_Supporter: They took out LAN so I'm not buying the game on principle. Friend: On the principle of you being dumb? Everyone is playing so just swallow your pride and get it. LAN_Supporter: Your mom swallowed my pride. Friend: Whatever man, enjoy crying in your corner and keep up your LAN crusade as an Internet warrior. Just get the damn game. LAN_Supporter: =( Rural Country Player: Hey guys, wanna play some SC2 multiplayer? Friends: Sure man, let's set it up. Rural Country Player: Oh wait. Sorry we can't, there's no decent ISP in this area, so we have no decent internet access. Friends: Ahh that's right, oh well. *Plays Starcraft 1* Man on Vacation: Hey there, wanna play some SC2. Friend: Sure, fire it up! Man on Vacation: !@#$ I forgot. We don't have internet over here. Friend: Oh yeah, that sucks. Oh well *Plays Starcraft 1* College Student: Sweet guys, let's play some SC2. Friends: Alright! We've been so excited for this game. College Student: Ahh shit, I can't log in Battlenet. The college firewall blocks it. Friends: Can't we plan offline though? College Student: Sorry, no LAN play in this game. Friends: Wow what a rip-off. Oh well. *Plays Starcraft 1* Man with Internet: Wanna play some SC2? Friend: Sure, we got internet so it's fine. Let's get on BattleNet. Man with Internet: Sure, I'm going online right no- OH SHIT the internet is down! Friend: Dammit, why now of all times? Man with Internet: Great, now we can't play SC2. Oh well *Plays Starcraft 1* Pirates: Hey guys. Don't you hate it when you can't play the key feature of the game you paid money for? Well why not use our product: Starcraft 2 with LAN. It has all the features of SC2, but it has that LAN feature you've been wanting so badly. Man with Internet: Hey now that's a good deal. College Student: Yea. It sucks we can't use Bnet, but some multiplayer is better than none. Man on Vacation: Sounds awesome, let's use it. *Players pirate cracked version of Starcraft 2* | ||
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