EPTIt also says Summer 2025, Riyadh (in the black ops image).
https://www.esportsworldcup.com/en
Annual "is EPT/GSL over?" thread - (Answer: Yeah*) - Page 8
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Ludwigvan
Germany2373 Posts
It also says Summer 2025, Riyadh (in the black ops image). https://www.esportsworldcup.com/en | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7408 Posts
On November 14 2024 17:20 Ludwigvan wrote: they have a countdown of the games that will be part of the World Cup in 2025 on their main page (announcement of an announcement?). It's 24 games in total. One has already been announced, next one to be announced is in two days. Last one to be announced will be in 39 days. So, just before Christmas all games will have been announced (I guess). It also says Summer 2025, Riyadh (in the black ops image). https://www.esportsworldcup.com/en This year had 23 games right? I'm like 99% sure SC2 is among the games. If for the same kind of money remains to be seeb | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27402 Posts
Doesn’t have to all be ESL events or whatever. We’ve not got WTL anymore, partly due to EWC itself. But on the plus side the Chinese scene may do some regular LAN tournaments to compensate. We’ve got that cool Bulgarian tournament coming back, so that’s nice You need other events to build storylines, narratives, as well as sustain interest as a viewer, and viability as a pro player | ||
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Ludwigvan
Germany2373 Posts
On November 14 2024 21:13 Harris1st wrote: This year had 23 games right? I'm like 99% sure SC2 is among the games. If for the same kind of money remains to be seeb this year I counted 22 games from their website. but they might get new games AND get rid of other games. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7408 Posts
On November 15 2024 02:51 Ludwigvan wrote: this year I counted 22 games from their website. but they might get new games AND get rid of other games. I guess they'll go with the anual updated games like Call of Duty, Fifa and the likes obviously makes sense. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4289 Posts
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Balnazza
Germany1361 Posts
On November 16 2024 01:05 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Feels like Warcraft 3 route is coming for Starcraft 2. What is the WC3 Route in this context? | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4289 Posts
90 to 95% of all tournaments played online. Smaller prize pool. Much smaller player pool. Community lead competition. | ||
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tigera6
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Harris1st
Germany7408 Posts
On November 16 2024 01:05 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Feels like Warcraft 3 route is coming for Starcraft 2. Starcraft 2 Reforged 2.0 Remaster? | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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ZeroByte13
799 Posts
On November 19 2024 00:10 SmoKim wrote: Yeah but why would ESWC want that?Imagine if just ½ the money from ESWC SC2 Prizepool went to a yearly ESL circuit They want to be able to claim they have tournaments with highest prizepools for many or even most esports games, including SC2 - mostly because of its legacy. They don't care about SC2 year-long circuit and why would they? | ||
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tigera6
3516 Posts
On November 19 2024 02:44 ZeroByte13 wrote: Yeah but why would ESWC want that? They want to be able to claim they have tournaments with highest prizepools for many or even most esports games, including SC2 - mostly because of its legacy. They don't care about SC2 year-long circuit and why would they? Its ESL job to run the circuit and they need to find a way, otherwise just cancel the whole EPT thing rather than making us waiting for nothing. At this point they can only run 1 or 2 max tournament before EWC next year, IEM probably also dead at this point, so there isnt much of a pro-tour even if they want to start now. Just man up and say that there is no more EPT, wait till Apr/May for potential announcement on EWC, thats it. | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1993 Posts
Crank: states he is 99% sure SC2 will not be in EWC, as chess will be the "strategy" replacement. He also says that many korean players will retire as a result if it is not announced. World Team League: Shares a similar sentiment and has been vocal on twitter pleading for EWC to incorporate SC2 and chess is not a fitting replacement. Oliveira: Feeling uncertainty, contemplating retirement, only still competing in Olimoleague finals because crank begged him. soO: retires. Dark: Dropped from Talon Esports (Dec. 10th), who recruited him specifically for EWC, in hopes of acquiring club points. | ||
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States758 Posts
On November 19 2024 14:39 tigera6 wrote: Its ESL job to run the circuit and they need to find a way, otherwise just cancel the whole EPT thing rather than making us waiting for nothing. At this point they can only run 1 or 2 max tournament before EWC next year, IEM probably also dead at this point, so there isnt much of a pro-tour even if they want to start now. Just man up and say that there is no more EPT, wait till Apr/May for potential announcement on EWC, thats it. If no more funding from Blizzard/MSFT then it may not be their job to run anything if they don't find it profitable I suppose. | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1361 Posts
On December 23 2024 21:52 CicadaSC wrote: I would say it's not looking good. Let's look at some recent information pointing in that direction. Crank: states he is 99% sure SC2 will not be in EWC, as chess will be the "strategy" replacement. He also says that many korean players will retire as a result if it is not announced. World Team League: Shares a similar sentiment and has been vocal on twitter pleading for EWC to incorporate SC2 and chess is not a fitting replacement. Oliveira: Feeling uncertainty, contemplating retirement, only still competing in Olimoleague finals because crank begged him. soO: retires. Dark: Dropped from Talon Esports (Dec. 10th), who recruited him specifically for EWC, in hopes of acquiring club points. Gotta say: If ESL cancels on us now, it would be unnecessarily cruel. I can't imagine the EWC Foundation at this point doesn't know the games for next year yet. So if there won't be SC2, they would know and the only reason not to announce it would be to keep up some suspense for the game-announcements...which is unnecessary, considering how relatively small the fanbase of Starcraft is. | ||
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tigera6
3516 Posts
On December 23 2024 22:28 PurE)Rabbit-SF wrote: If no more funding from Blizzard/MSFT then it may not be their job to run anything if they don't find it profitable I suppose. Like I said, just say "we dont have any tournament planned", rather than trying to drop a cliff-hanger statement and then stay completely silence. I am not saying they have to give the money for the WC, but their job is too communicate to players and fanbase, even if its bad news. | ||
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Ludwigvan
Germany2373 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27402 Posts
On December 23 2024 23:16 tigera6 wrote: Like I said, just say "we dont have any tournament planned", rather than trying to drop a cliff-hanger statement and then stay completely silence. I am not saying they have to give the money for the WC, but their job is too communicate to players and fanbase, even if its bad news. It’s irritating as a fan, but if you’re a player these kind of delays make it almost impossible to make informed career decisions. Be that a straight no, a straight yes with details or a ‘we’re hoping to run a circuit again, we just haven’t finalised details and prize pools yet.’ It also makes it difficult to transition to something else. It may be that something more akin to how the WC3 scene looks now is the future, and hey I think that could be fine. But community organisers can’t really do that right now because a lot of fan interest is still tied up in the possibility of the kind of tournament cycle we’re accustomed to. It’s a mess really and doesn’t reflect well on the orgs involved | ||
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Balnazza
Germany1361 Posts
On December 23 2024 23:46 WombaT wrote: It’s irritating as a fan, but if you’re a player these kind of delays make it almost impossible to make informed career decisions. Be that a straight no, a straight yes with details or a ‘we’re hoping to run a circuit again, we just haven’t finalised details and prize pools yet.’ It also makes it difficult to transition to something else. It may be that something more akin to how the WC3 scene looks now is the future, and hey I think that could be fine. But community organisers can’t really do that right now because a lot of fan interest is still tied up in the possibility of the kind of tournament cycle we’re accustomed to. It’s a mess really and doesn’t reflect well on the orgs involved It's especially depressing if you consider that ESL already dropped their Counterstrike-schedule for 2026... But yeah, being in the vacuum is even worse than knowing shit is going down. I remember when the german WC3 EPS shutdown back in...2011 maybe? At that point, we were running an amateur-level 1v1 league and the day the announcement dropped, one player came into our IRC, said "I'm retiring and leave the league" and was gone forever, never to be seen. And he wasn't even in the EPS, he was still trying to qualify for it. But without the EPS-money, he had no reason to continue to play WC3 even as a hobby. That being said - on the other hand it took the german community a month or two to announce new projects. Of course, this was pre-Crowdfunding, we couldn't balance out the huge monetary loss, but we could gather enough money to keep a somewhat competitive german-scene around for a few more years, until SC2 basically killed it completly. But these kind of actions only can happen when you know what's up. We couldn't have found any sponsors for a 1v1 league as long as the EPS was around, there wouldn't have been any traction for that. | ||
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