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MaxPax Abstaining From Esports World Cup?

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serralbest
Profile Joined January 2024
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-07-02 05:17:23
June 30 2024 12:13 GMT
#1
https://twitter.com/uThermal/status/1807349944266768859?s=19
This is bad news,This means that there are 16 direct invitees with 9T4Z3P
oh,This has already been determined
(Wiki)Esports World Cup/2024
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
June 30 2024 12:29 GMT
#2
Did people expect anything else?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
June 30 2024 13:02 GMT
#3
Everybody who put the game and the safety of players/fans over the chance to make a quick $ abstained.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
bulldozer06701
Profile Joined July 2019
123 Posts
June 30 2024 13:23 GMT
#4
On June 30 2024 21:29 Haku wrote:
Did people expect anything else?

Little bit. In this thread some brought out that it would be too late for him now to pull out, so it gave some hope, but oh well.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25035 Posts
June 30 2024 13:51 GMT
#5
Who’s likely to get his slot?

As ever it’s a pity we don’t get to see such a talent on a big stage but even if he did play is it likely he shows his best at not only his first offline tourney but the biggest one of all?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3345 Posts
June 30 2024 14:07 GMT
#6
Spirit will replace him for sure.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-30 14:13:50
June 30 2024 14:13 GMT
#7
On June 30 2024 22:02 Cyro wrote:
Everybody who put the game and the safety of players/fans over the chance to make a quick $ abstained.

Sometimes I have these feelings too, but it's not like people complain when tournaments happen in China & so on. /shrug. The scene is just gonna have to suck it up and move on with this new normal.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25035 Posts
June 30 2024 14:21 GMT
#8
On June 30 2024 23:13 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2024 22:02 Cyro wrote:
Everybody who put the game and the safety of players/fans over the chance to make a quick $ abstained.

Sometimes I have these feelings too, but it's not like people complain when tournaments happen in China & so on. /shrug. The scene is just gonna have to suck it up and move on with this new normal.

I think people very much would complain if the Chinese state was bankrolling tournaments and bought out the overall circuit organiser
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1137 Posts
June 30 2024 15:49 GMT
#9
According to Liquipedia, in case MaxPax declines, Heromarine will get the EU invite and Spiral will go through the Global Standings. So essentially, Spirit takes the spot.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
THERIDDLER
Profile Joined July 2014
Canada116 Posts
June 30 2024 17:09 GMT
#10
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User was warned for this post
Please don't fricken hack, its just a game.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2716 Posts
June 30 2024 17:18 GMT
#11
On July 01 2024 00:49 Balnazza wrote:
Spiral

The archon of Spirit and Serral?
very illegal and very uncool
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12790 Posts
June 30 2024 17:35 GMT
#12
Shame on him for not participating in IRL tournaments in general, but I am happy that he didn’t change his behavior because of $$ and just went along with his usual credo.

I am kinda sad for the protoss fans - spectators that we don’t get to see him play in the « real » conditions, having to handle the pressure of live events and still deliver good StarCraft is what makes the difference between good and great players imo
WriterMaru
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1601 Posts
June 30 2024 17:40 GMT
#13
Expected. As I said before, if he was planning on going to EWC he probably would have played in a lan leading up to the event to get more comfortable first. Especially if anxiety/nerves is his issue...
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
761 Posts
June 30 2024 17:56 GMT
#14
On July 01 2024 02:35 Poopi wrote:
Shame on him for not participating in IRL tournaments in general, but I am happy that he didn’t change his behavior because of $$ and just went along with his usual credo.
Probably the reason of his absense at LANs is not something he can just change because there's more money on the line.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10325 Posts
June 30 2024 18:19 GMT
#15
On July 01 2024 02:35 Poopi wrote:
Shame on him for not participating in IRL tournaments in general, but I am happy that he didn’t change his behavior because of $$ and just went along with his usual credo.

I am kinda sad for the protoss fans - spectators that we don’t get to see him play in the « real » conditions, having to handle the pressure of live events and still deliver good StarCraft is what makes the difference between good and great players imo


Shame ON him? Who are you to judge what he does with his life?

Or did you mean shame OF him?
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12790 Posts
June 30 2024 18:22 GMT
#16
On July 01 2024 03:19 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2024 02:35 Poopi wrote:
Shame on him for not participating in IRL tournaments in general, but I am happy that he didn’t change his behavior because of $$ and just went along with his usual credo.

I am kinda sad for the protoss fans - spectators that we don’t get to see him play in the « real » conditions, having to handle the pressure of live events and still deliver good StarCraft is what makes the difference between good and great players imo


Shame ON him? Who are you to judge what he does with his life?

Or did you mean shame OF him?

I mean shame on him, when you are at that level of gameplay you owe it to the game/public to actually show up and play
He doesn't, that's a pity
WriterMaru
Philippe
Profile Joined October 2020
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-06-30 18:24:50
June 30 2024 18:23 GMT
#17
On July 01 2024 03:22 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2024 03:19 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On July 01 2024 02:35 Poopi wrote:
Shame on him for not participating in IRL tournaments in general, but I am happy that he didn’t change his behavior because of $$ and just went along with his usual credo.

I am kinda sad for the protoss fans - spectators that we don’t get to see him play in the « real » conditions, having to handle the pressure of live events and still deliver good StarCraft is what makes the difference between good and great players imo


Shame ON him? Who are you to judge what he does with his life?

Or did you mean shame OF him?

I mean shame on him, when you are at that level of gameplay you owe it to the game/public to actually show up and play
He doesn't, that's a pity


I'd more blame Artosis for claiming online counts for absolute zero when it comes to skill level, when playing through ping is a skill on itself. Possibly doesn't feel he even needs the offline to think whether he's good or not.

He doesn't owe an explanation whatsoever for his mindset, in the end it's on ESL who ultimately let him play.
I'm just a cynical video game enjoyer who is probably unfazed by many business dealings many would find utterly distasteful, while not strictly illegal by the law as seen in a general sense in the world.
thekaas
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark235 Posts
June 30 2024 18:32 GMT
#18
On July 01 2024 03:22 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2024 03:19 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On July 01 2024 02:35 Poopi wrote:
Shame on him for not participating in IRL tournaments in general, but I am happy that he didn’t change his behavior because of $$ and just went along with his usual credo.

I am kinda sad for the protoss fans - spectators that we don’t get to see him play in the « real » conditions, having to handle the pressure of live events and still deliver good StarCraft is what makes the difference between good and great players imo


Shame ON him? Who are you to judge what he does with his life?

Or did you mean shame OF him?

I mean shame on him, when you are at that level of gameplay you owe it to the game/public to actually show up and play
He doesn't, that's a pity

so many weirdos in esports think being good at a video game means you have some sort of social obligation to perform it in front of an audience.
My liquibets are slightly better than flipping a coin
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25035 Posts
June 30 2024 18:52 GMT
#19
On July 01 2024 03:22 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2024 03:19 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On July 01 2024 02:35 Poopi wrote:
Shame on him for not participating in IRL tournaments in general, but I am happy that he didn’t change his behavior because of $$ and just went along with his usual credo.

I am kinda sad for the protoss fans - spectators that we don’t get to see him play in the « real » conditions, having to handle the pressure of live events and still deliver good StarCraft is what makes the difference between good and great players imo


Shame ON him? Who are you to judge what he does with his life?

Or did you mean shame OF him?

I mean shame on him, when you are at that level of gameplay you owe it to the game/public to actually show up and play
He doesn't, that's a pity

It’s a shame for us viewers, and probably MaxPax himself that he doesn’t want to play these events for whatever reason. But I don’t think it at all means he owes it to anyone.

Provided he’s not taking a ticket from another player and not going to events where replacements can’t be organised, but that has been mitigated for as long as I can recall.

Whatever his reasons, they should be respected. Without speculating unduly I mean if you’re turning down 15k dollars just for showing up at the EWC, you probably have some damn fine reasons.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12790 Posts
June 30 2024 19:07 GMT
#20
On July 01 2024 03:32 thekaas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2024 03:22 Poopi wrote:
On July 01 2024 03:19 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
On July 01 2024 02:35 Poopi wrote:
Shame on him for not participating in IRL tournaments in general, but I am happy that he didn’t change his behavior because of $$ and just went along with his usual credo.

I am kinda sad for the protoss fans - spectators that we don’t get to see him play in the « real » conditions, having to handle the pressure of live events and still deliver good StarCraft is what makes the difference between good and great players imo


Shame ON him? Who are you to judge what he does with his life?

Or did you mean shame OF him?

I mean shame on him, when you are at that level of gameplay you owe it to the game/public to actually show up and play
He doesn't, that's a pity

so many weirdos in esports think being good at a video game means you have some sort of social obligation to perform it in front of an audience.

In esports?
Do you realize it's like that in the whole world, from sport to music to whatever else? Humans want to be entertained.
WriterMaru
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